Lo again, Thanks Dreammaker for the reply. It turned out to be that save states cause time to stop working..... But who really need save states on Oot... Anyway I am trying to get rumble to work as visual rumble with the N-Rage Input Plugin V2 and I don't see anything new when I play the game (Oot) with the stone of agony near a genuine secret spot. so the rumble isn't working. Not sure If this would go on this board sorry if it doesn't. Any suggestions?