OMG, an Athlon XP overclocked to 3 ghz!!!

[RJARRRPCGP]

Gee wiz, I doubt that will be possible with air cooling :(.

[Knuckles]

holy sh*t! that is a ultra High-end PC! Dont only look @ the CPU but at the video card too, 1.76GHz memory! This guy got time and money to spend......


I wonder how it runs Dolphin :P

[RJARRRPCGP]

Yes, better believe it, that dude probably has some MAJOR money ;).

[smcd]

Don't fail to overlook the "dedicated OC-128 line." Crap, that'll let ya download all of the MAME 0.81 set in record time. ;)

[-Shadow-]

Wow , that guy must've lots of money or rich parents ! A standard vaporisator cooling costs about 1000€ :O . And the Hardware about 2000€ .


I wonder how it runs Dolphin
I don't think it will run that good... :D but chankast will rock :P

[Jigga0o7]

Wow , that guy must've lots of money or rich parents ! A standard vaporisator cooling costs about 1000€ :O . And the Hardware about 2000€ .


I don't think it will run that good... :D but chankast will rock :P

You know this is B/S right? I really hope so. -274C? I think not. Here goes some of the real deal. LN2 cooling, -196C. Check out the clocks on the video card too, and 14 120mm fans? This guy's gotta be joking or something.

http://www.vr-zone.com/ocdb/amd_screenshots/167i.gif

[Stezo2k]

You know this is B/S right? I really hope so. -274C? I think not. Here goes some of the real deal. LN2 cooling, -196C. Check out the clocks on the video card too, and 14 120mm fans? This guy's gotta be joking or something.

http://www.vr-zone.com/ocdb/amd_screenshots/167i.gif

you might be right, that screenshot is a nice overclock though :)

3.5 ghz, thats gotta be at least a 4200+ PR rating

[-Shadow-]

You know this is B/S right? I really hope so. -274C? I think not. Here goes some of the real deal. LN2 cooling, -196C. Check out the clocks on the video card too, and 14 120mm fans? This guy's gotta be joking or something.

http://www.vr-zone.com/ocdb/amd_screenshots/167i.gif

Huh ? Whats B/S ? I only know Vapochill , it makes the CPU around -200°C cold or something ( vaporisator )

Ok , i even think he's faking a little bit , because i've NEVER seen liquid nitrogen cooling for ram O.o Ah , i just seen hes got a custom mod for the Mobo + Modded nitrogen cooling , but 14 120cm fans ?! He's got even his own CASE ?!

I know that pic . I saw it on a japanese Overclocking site . It's very nice work , i really appreciate it ;)


Gee wiz, I doubt that will be possible with air cooling .
Hehe , try it with this air "cooling" :D ( warning , joke :D )

http://www.gymsnv.sk/~x8ahami/liu/foto/ventilator.jpg

[Clements]

Er...

Given that -273.15 degrees C is absolute zero, his processor cannot possibly be -274. Unless his PC defies the laws of physics.

...and think out it - liquid hydrogen. Do you know how dangerous that is? That is rocket fuel. If he was better at making stuff up, he would at least say he was using liquid helium.

[Dysprosium]

Er...

Given that -273.15 degrees C is absolute zero, his processor cannot possibly be -274. Unless his PC defies the laws of physics.

...and think out it - liquid hydrogen. Do you know how dangerous that is? That is rocket fuel. If he was better at making stuff up, he would at least say he was using liquid helium.

Yeah.. a lot of the stuff he put there isn't logical. I mean, there's not a computer in the world that can use Liquid Hydrogen, is there? Let alone the degrees. :P ( As Clements mentioned. )

[ScottJC]

It sounds like rubbish to me too.

[Burnpro]

13xxx in 3dmark03 wiith a fx 5950????? that is a real joke.., someone before the new line graphic cards (x800,6800) broke 10,000 points in 3dmark03 with masive cooling and overclocking and with the fastest card in the momment (9800xt) and if i remember correctly he was using a 4.x GHZ cpu too.

and look at this:
http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20031230/index.html
-196C with liquid nitrogen,
so once more he is BSing

[Martin]

Er...

Given that -273.15 degrees C is absolute zero, his processor cannot possibly be -274. Unless his PC defies the laws of physics.

...and think out it - liquid hydrogen. Do you know how dangerous that is? That is rocket fuel. If he was better at making stuff up, he would at least say he was using liquid helium.
Hehe was about to say, that's impossible. :)

And that connection is fairly impossible as well. :)

[refraction]

Huh ? Whats B/S ? I only know Vapochill , it makes the CPU around -200°C cold or something ( vaporisator )


actually we have a vapochill in the house, it does up to a max of -50c, but with the pc running you get between -10c and +11c

I doubt he has liquid nitrogen cooling, cos hed have ice growing on the back of his motherboard which in turn would short the thing out, i think he talks bollocks tbh ;) altho that probably is possible, i mean ive seen a 486 SX 25 running at 2ghz with LN2 cooling, even tho it was only for 15 seconds before it fried :P

[Jigga0o7]

you might be right, that screenshot is a nice overclock though :)

3.5 ghz, thats gotta be at least a 4200+ PR rating

3578mhz on an AXP is farrr more than a 4200+ rating. A chip around 3.6ghz would get a 4650+ rating.

2.2 = 3200+
2.4 = 3400+
2.6 = 3600+
2.8 = 3800+
3.0 = 4000+
3.2 = 4200+
3.4 = 4400+
3.6 = 4600+

Take FSB into account. And thats all according to AMD's PR ratings which are bollocks IMO.

And I was going to say the temp is impossible according to physics but I forgot the numbers where absolute 0 started.

And I wish vapochill would get -200C. The newest Vapochills can get about -70C or so, and like -80C if you mod them with different gasses. You'd have to build a cascade machine if you'd want something to take it to -100C and beyond.

[Stezo2k]

And I wish vapochill would get -200C. The newest Vapochills can get about -70C or so, and like -80C if you mod them with different gasses. You'd have to build a cascade machine if you'd want something to take it to -100C and beyond.

cheers for the info mate, sounds good :)

as for the vapochills, any idea how much they are? will want to purchase one if the price is right ;)

[Jigga0o7]

cheers for the info mate, sounds good :)

as for the vapochills, any idea how much they are? will want to purchase one if the price is right ;)

Well now that nVentiv *maker of Prommetia's* is out of buisness, the price of vapochills are probably going to increase. I went looking around for prices since I might get one next month, and for the top of the line Vapochill AC its like $900 or so. I'd like to get a lower, older version and see if I can get it for around $500-600. Either that or i'm water coolin. I don't really care.

[sheik124]

and what all of you fail to notice is, the Athlon XP architecture has an internal 3 GHz clock limit, the guys feeding us a big load of b/s.

[Jigga0o7]

and what all of you fail to notice is, the Athlon XP architecture has an internal 3 GHz clock limit, the guys feeding us a big load of b/s.

The "internal clock limit" means absolutely nothing. On average, bartons on a Mach 2 GT will get 3.2ghz.

[-Shadow-]

I doubt he has liquid nitrogen cooling, cos hed have ice growing on the back of his motherboard which in turn would short the thing out, i think he talks bollocks tbh altho that probably is possible, i mean ive seen a 486 SX 25 running at 2ghz with LN2 cooling, even tho it was only for 15 seconds before it fried

Hmmm... normally there is a heating pad on the back of the mobo , to keep the CPU from freezing , or am i wrong ?!

[Jigga0o7]

Hmmm... normally there is a heating pad on the back of the mobo , to keep the CPU from freezing , or am i wrong ?!

People use insulation foam usually for that sort of thing. But the problem is that at -274C electrons don't move. So the processor simply wouldn't turn on.

[dukenukem]

Hm if you want the best cooling for your comp go to alaska or the north pole best damn cooling you can get for a comp and yourself provided you don't die:).The wind and snow are always the best way of cooling anything:)hehe.

[-Shadow-]

Hehehe , thats a cheap solution , too :D

[-Shadow-]

People use insulation foam usually for that sort of thing. But the problem is that at -274C electrons don't move. So the processor simply wouldn't turn on.

Aaaahhh ok , i know what yoo mean :D That guy ( On RJAXXXX's forum screen ) is a real faker :D

/edit : Ooops , sry 4 double-post :D

[gokuss4]

God, all I need to know is that -273c part and I know he was faking the whole thing :plain:

[Kahenraz]

I clocked my p4 to 6.2 once.
This was one of the original pre-ordered p4s. It wasd pretty unstable and very easy to clock. This 6.2ghz bit was by pure accident though. I opened a corrupt application that started to re-open itself exponentially, flooding my processes. I did a /sysinfo in the IRC channel I was in, paniced, and made a dive for the power button. Someone in the channel sent me a screenshot afterwards. Name have been removed for privacy reasons, but I'm, sure you can tell which lines are mine. ;)

This cpu was originally clocked at 1.4Ghz, btw.

THIS IS NOT A JOKE.

[Kahenraz]

http://magesystems.com/magesystems/files/cpu_all.gif

[minkster]

thats mad crazy but wouldnt ur pentium 4 explode by then

[Kahenraz]

I don't know. I didn't wait to find out. Besides, I could hardly do anything since my HDD was grinding like crazy flooding my virtual memory.

[Jigga0o7]

I don't know. I didn't wait to find out. Besides, I could hardly do anything since my HDD was grinding like crazy flooding my virtual memory.

You, like the original person we were talking about... are full of shit. You're saying you took a crappy 1.4ghz williamette pentium 4 to 6.2ghz? Kind of interesting when those POS's barely clock to 1.8. And do you have any idea how many volts you'd have to run for that clock? Do you have no idea that p4's are multiplier locked? So tell me what fsb you were running? Whats the vcore, vdimm, vdd, ram timings, etc. And those old socket 423 mobos were crappy so I don't even see how that kinda of fsb is possible with such a crappy chipset.

So 6181mhz huh?

That would be 441mhz fsb with a 1766mhz system bus. Even the greatest overclockers can't do that with LN2 *-196C* and volt mods.

I wish people would stop bsing and go for real things, not make believe crap to make their e-penis grow.

[cooliscool]

Yeah, that's prolly just an error with the script, once DE said my K6-2 was clocked at 1.5GHz. :P

At any cost, 6.1GHz is not possible with any CPU on the market.

[-Shadow-]

Hmmm... thats a real glitch , or fake , i think . Each CPU clock window shows another CPU clock , so i think the clock diagnistics chip is broken....

[Kahenraz]

I already told you, this is not a joke. Don't believe me if you want, but it did happen.

The reason that there are different clocks is because I was overloading the CPU to a peak point, then allowing it to clock back down. This allowed the cpu to overclock itself to a threshold.

Seriously, you don't have to believe me, but don't sit there and tell me it didn't happen because I was there.

[Jigga0o7]

I already told you, this is not a joke. Don't believe me if you want, but it did happen.

The reason that there are different clocks is because I was overloading the CPU to a peak point, then allowing it to clock back down. This allowed the cpu to overclock itself to a threshold.

Seriously, you don't have to believe me, but don't sit there and tell me it didn't happen because I was there.

Full of crap. And cpu speed doesn't increase with cpu load. With notebooks, this does happen so they save battery power but they only raise to the rated speed of the cpu.

I really don't think you know what you're talking about so just smile and nod.

[Kahenraz]

I already told you what happend. It happend, I've shown you the time it clocked 6.2 and all of my repeated attempts. If you still don't believe me then that's your problem, but don't go insulting me over your own disbelief.

[Waan2k]

hi there Jigga0o7 :)

I have a 2500 xp cpu also and a Nforce 2 Abit 1.2 rev
I have 2x 256 2100 ddr ram dual channeling.

Is it possible for me to go to say 12x200 or do I need 3200 ram?

I don't need to raise the vcore do I?

for cooling I got that silent Booaster 80mm fan and copper heatsink.

Also I can do like 11x166 and 12x166, but I feel that the cpu is bottle necking my 9800 pro a little bit.

So raising the FSB would help quite a bit :)

[Jigga0o7]

hi there Jigga0o7 :)

I have a 2500 xp cpu also and a Nforce 2 Abit 1.2 rev
I have 2x 256 2100 ddr ram dual channeling.

Is it possible for me to go to say 12x200 or do I need 3200 ram?

I don't need to raise the vcore do I?

for cooling I got that silent Booaster 80mm fan and copper heatsink.

Also I can do like 11x166 and 12x166, but I feel that the cpu is bottle necking my 9800 pro a little bit.

So raising the FSB would help quite a bit :)

Motherboards before the 2.0 revision have problems with high fsb, but should be okay for atleast 200mhz. Also, you can run 12x200 for 2.4ghz with your pc2100, but you would have to use ratiosso that your ram would stay within its limits. If you want to run your ram 1:1 ratio then yeah, you're going to need some pc3200.

You will need to raise your vcore if you want to go for such high overclocks. And when you run 166fsb, your ram runs fine 1:1? Because if so, I recommend that you go for 14x166 for 2324mhz. Depending on the stepping of your cpu, I recommend about 1.75v on the cpu for that.

I've never used that heatsink before myself, so I can't really be sure how good it is.

Do you have any 3dmark 2k1 or 2k3 scores that I could see? That way I could show you some of mine and you can see what kind of performance gains can be had from high fsb and such. I've got a few scores with a 9800 non pro still. Tonight I might break 21000 on 3dmark 2k1 with it if I feel like it... I don't know if its even worth it since i have the x800pro.

[Waan2k]

yeah I get like 14000 in 3d mark 2001 and about 5000 in 3dmark 2003.

What would I need to do to get 11x200 what do I need to change to run this?

[Waan2k]

I think that if I had a higher FSB I'ld get better scores and framerate in apps and games :)

[Jigga0o7]

I think that if I had a higher FSB I'ld get better scores and framerate in apps and games :)

Ofcourse, but running 166fsb for now with higher cpu speed will be good to have until you get better ram.

[Waan2k]

yeah runs fine at 12.5x166 Ive never tryed 14x166 for 2324mhz or 13. So would I have to raise the vcore a bit for this. how much does it increase the heat?.

My computer runs at about 45 idle and 52 load

[Frony]

:bunny: I know my comp. isn't that bad but how can i find out the tech. specs.? I'll edit this and post them when I learn how :evil:

[Jigga0o7]

yeah runs fine at 12.5x166 Ive never tryed 14x166 for 2324mhz or 13. So would I have to raise the vcore a bit for this. how much does it increase the heat?.

My computer runs at about 45 idle and 52 load

1.7v-1.75v would do it.

You're okay as long as load temps don't exceed 60ish C. Chips don't die till 85C but I advise you stop pushing when it hits 60 ish, and add more cooling weither it be a better heatsink or case fans with a higher flow rate.

[Jigga0o7]

:bunny: I know my comp. isn't that bad but how can i find out the tech. specs.? I'll edit this and post them when I learn how :evil:

What you're going to want to do is this.

http://www.cpuid.com/download/cpu-z-123.zip

download that, extract it and run it. It'll tell you what processor you have and how many mhz it has, along with other information such as FSB, L1/L2 cache, Ram Timings, Multiplier, Vcore, and other information such as what motherboard you have and what type of ram you have *pc100, pc133, pc2100, pc2400, pc2700, pc3000, pc3200, pc3500, pc3700, pc4000, pc4200, or pc4400*.

As for video card, all you need to do is right click on your desktop > Properties > Settings > Then you will see a screen such as this.

http://www.tradersworld.com/ezio_monitor_review/ezio-display%20properties.gif

In this case, the video card is the nVidia Quadro 4. Look in the same place to see your card maker and type.

If theres anything you want to know just ask.

[RJARRRPCGP]

I think that if I had a higher FSB I'ld get better scores and framerate in apps and games :)

Often, the only 3D title that benefits with higher FSB clock speeds is 3D Mark
and some of the latest games.

The reason is, that 3D Mark 2001 SE, 3D Mark 2003, DirectX 8.1 and DirectX 9 3D titles use a lot of bandwidth.

[cooliscool]

Often, the only 3D title that benefits with higher FSB clock speeds is 3D Mark
and some of the latest games.

The reason is, that 3D Mark 2001 SE, 3D Mark 2003, DirectX 8.1 and DirectX 9 3D titles use a lot of bandwidth.

... It's always a joy to read your posts. :yucky:

[Waan2k]

hi again Jigga0o7 :)

With overclocking my 2500xp Barton, could I do 11x200 with my 2100 dual ram, how much would I have to raise the v core to allow it to do that?

thx for the quick replys too btw :)

[-Shadow-]

hi again Jigga0o7

With overclocking my 2500xp Barton, could I do 11x200 with my 2100 dual ram, how much would I have to raise the v core to allow it to do that?

thx for the quick replys too btw

Your RAM would get a headache :D At least if you don't have a Nforce Mobo with asynchronous FSB/RAM clocks . And now the question of the vcore : Just test it ! Set the clock a lil' bit higher and then test if its running stable ( with PC Mark , games , prime95 etc. ) , if it's not running stable , set the Vcore a little bit higher , then test again . Do this until you have your desired clock rate or if you reached your max Vcore .


... It's always a joy to read your posts.

Hell yeah :P

[Jigga0o7]

hi again Jigga0o7 :)

With overclocking my 2500xp Barton, could I do 11x200 with my 2100 dual ram, how much would I have to raise the v core to allow it to do that?

thx for the quick replys too btw :)

Depends. When you're running the stock 166fsb of your cpu, is your ram stable? If so, you can run the 6:5 multiplier so that your ram stays at 166 and your fsb goes to 200. So you would have 2.2ghz with 200fsb but the memory bandwidth will be lacking a little bit, i'm guessing about 2800mb/s effective, depending on your timings.

And if you have a good chip you won't have to raise vcore at all for 2.2ghz. And if you do, just raise it to 1.7 since the heat will not raise much since your cpu runs 1.65v stock.

And here goes some of my 3dmark 2k1 runs.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7874474
20751 points
2.56ghz 420/340 clocks on the 9800NP 232fsb 1:1 2-2-2-6

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7291031
20105 points
2.43ghz 453/333 clocks on the 9800NP 221fsb 1:1 2-2-2-6

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7920818
24088 points
2.625ghz 550/616 clocks on the x800pro 238fsb 1:1 2-2-2-6

[Waan2k]

yeah 166 is the stock, I guess the ram is fine,I got it dual channeling so not sure.

So for 2200 MHz what do I need to change in my bios settings to get this :)

So I change the ram timing to 6:5 or something and change the Softclock to 11x200 FSB?

thx for all the replys btw :)

[Sharon White]

Just out of interest, could it not be reasonable that the law of physics would be different as the temperature approaches absolute zero.

Temperature is the attribute of the amount of energy of matter, having close to no energy is not a natural state of matter.

Could it not be possibility that the limiting factors of the overclocking frequency be reduced beyond the (expected, unproven) value that people believe to be the case.

After all, physics is imperical, the absolute zero state of matter has not been observed.

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[Jigga0o7]

Very true, many have come close to 0 kelvin but have never quite made it. I myself have never had the opporitunity to experiment with anything even close to -274C so theres not really much I can go off of other than what other people have done.

Hypothetically, lets say someone has a pentium 4 3.0C and cooling for -274C. They want to go for 7Ghz and lets just say thats within the limits of the cpu. The amount of voltage for such an overclock would be in the range of 3-3.5 volts, which in itself would kill the processor.

Or we can look on it on a lower overclock. 3.0C at 5ghz. Lets say the processor runs -150C full load on 1.95v. The processor will die. Not having anything to do with heat, but electric migration. The transistors of the chip wouldn't be able to stand such stress for longer than 20 or so minutes, then its lights out.

[Waan2k]

Jigga0o7 I'm not to sure I'll be able to go to 14x166 I have not tryed. But say I got the CPU atm at 12.5x166.

If I Increase the FSB like to 176 or something, what ram settings would I have to set with my 2100 ram to get it to work well with the OC ?

[Jigga0o7]

Jigga0o7 I'm not to sure I'll be able to go to 14x166 I have not tryed. But say I got the CPU atm at 12.5x166.

If I Increase the FSB like to 176 or something, what ram settings would I have to set with my 2100 ram to get it to work well with the OC ?

Well what timings do you have right now? 176mhz is kinda high for pc2100. My pc2700 barely made it to 190mhz 2-2-2-6.

[jdsony]

This is an interesting thread. I just recently got a new NFORCE 2 motherboard to replace my aging SDRAM board and it's been a huge performance increase but I have only dabled with the overclocking options. I'm not use to all the options the nforce boards have, I'm use to just multiplier and fsb settings to play with and my old board couldn't change either once I installed a 266mhz fsb processor.

Right now my specs.

Athlon XP 2000+
Ati Radeon 9800 Pro
512 DDR 2100/3200 Dual Channel
2x 80gb Seagate Drives

My 1 stick of DDR 2100 is holding me back a bit for overclocking but I got it for free so it's not bad for now.

3D MARK 2001

AMD Athlon XP 2000+ Radeon 8500 le @ 299.25/310.50 (PC133) - 7933

AMD Athlon XP 2000+ Radeon 9800 Pro @ stock (PC133) - 10098

AMD Athlon XP 2000+ Radeon 9800 Pro @ stock (DDR2100) - 12643


3D MARK 2003

AMD Athlon XP 2000+ Radeon 8500 le @ 299.25/310.50 (PC133) - 1275

AMD Athlon XP 2000+ Radeon 9800 Pro @ 378/338 (PC133) - 4987

Haven't yet tried 3D MARK 2003 with new board/DDR

I had in the past tried overclocking my Radeon 9800 Pro but didn't yield much if any increase in performance which is likely because of my motherboard/ram bottleneck. I have yet to overclock with my new board but I'm sure I can get another 1000 or so 3D marks once I do.

[Waan2k]

hi again Jigga0o7 :)

that;s the thing I'm not sure what you mean by timing, how do I change the ram timing?

also if I change the ram timing like you said before to stay at the 2100 and raise the FSB, I could do 11x200 right?

[Jigga0o7]

hi again Jigga0o7 :)

that;s the thing I'm not sure what you mean by timing, how do I change the ram timing?

also if I change the ram timing like you said before to stay at the 2100 and raise the FSB, I could do 11x200 right?

Some ppl have done it... but I really doubt you could do it without a lot of voltage, and I don't think you're in the mood to kill anything.

And to find out the timing, download the prog I posted a few posts back and follow what I said in that post.

[Jigga0o7]

This is the best I can do on air.

http://yoaliens3000.com/upload/untitled2.jpg

[Waan2k]

ok here we are I tryed 13x166 but the computer will not let me into windows.
So i thought ok maybe I should keep it at 12.5x166 and raise the fsb a little.

How far can I go with my ram you reackon guys?

here's some pics

[sheik124]

damn you all and your NF7s, this $hit-@$$ A7N8X-E deluxe completely begins to flip out at anything over 190 FSB, gotta get a mobile so i can shoot the multiplier to the sky

[Waan2k]

ok guys I got me self some 2x256 3200 ram and it's a little bit faster not heaps but I see inprovements

I'm just curiosus cause I don't want to stuff something up.

With my Abit Nforce 2 1.2 Rev I think it's a 333 FSB board right, so could I do 11x200 on my setup now with 3200 dualing.

It says in Sia Sandra Memory Bus Speed: 2x199mhz (398mhz)

and the Front Side bus: 2x166mhz (332mhz rate)

just wanting someone opion cause I don't want to do 11x200 and something blows up cause of my mainboard hehe

cheers

Josh

[-Shadow-]

damn you all and your NF7s, this $hit-@$$ A7N8X-E deluxe completely begins to flip out at anything over 190 FSB, gotta get a mobile so i can shoot the multiplier to the sky

U can only go to 190Mhz Fsb ? I think you got the revision 1.04 of this mainboard , like me :D . A guaranteed 200-Mhz-Fsb has been implemented to the mainboard since revision 1.06 . The actual Asus Socket-A mainboards should support 200 Mhz FSB...