A question for Rice - could you fix Ogre Battle backgrounds?

[adaml75]

Well, let me say first that I really appreciate your work - you made great plugin, especially for those unfortunate people who (like me) don't have voodoo card. I have just one little question to ask - could you try to fix missing backgrounds in Ogre Battle 64?

Gonetz fixed that in his latest (0.7ME) version of Glide64. Unfortunately, no Glide wrapper works properly with OB64. Backgrounds are there, but sprites are missing! :-( You cannot have both, obviously...

But Gonetz released sources for his latest plugin and wrote that it's OK to use part of it in another one (ie yours). I'm no coder myself, so I can't say if it's difficult or not (and I bet it IS difficult) but I am sure that A LOT of people on this forum would owe you eternal gratitude for fixing this.

Best

Adam

[Rice]

Sure it can be fixed.

It is actually very nice to know that 1964.099 has JPEG decoding problem with this game, thanks, Gonetz, both 1964 0.99 and the video plugin need to be fixed for this game.

[adaml75]

Gee, thanks ! :-)

[olivieryuyu]

well with the glide64 0.7 some texture bugs appear link to the emulator (1964 0.99) and not the graphic plugin: as example doom 64 monsters or the title of donkey kong racing.

[adaml75]

some texture bugs appear link to the emulator

True, but missing sprites is purely eVoodoo wrapper problem - and impossible to fix. There is even Gonetz's post about it at EmuXhaven (I forgot the link). Rice, please, fix it ;-)

[olivieryuyu]

I 'm not speaking about glide wrapper
sorry I've got a voodoo 2
I 'm comparing the behavior of glide64 0.7 with 1964 0.99 and pj64

the screenshot is taken with 1964 0.99
in pj64 there is no such a bug ....

[Rice]

I 'm not speaking about glide wrapper
sorry I've got a voodoo 2
I 'm comparing the behavior of glide64 0.7 with 1964 0.99 and pj64

the screenshot is taken with 1964 0.99
in pj64 there is no such a bug ....

I guess this is a plugin bug. Other plugins do not have this problem.

[liteuser]

Does anyone know how much better is eVoodoo 3.99 then 3.25 . I know you might say (try and find out) but whats your best guess and why since we do have this new plugin. sorry to be offtopic here .

[willchu]

Well, let me say first that I really appreciate your work - you made great plugin, especially for those unfortunate people who (like me) don't have voodoo card. I have just one little question to ask - could you try to fix missing backgrounds in Ogre Battle 64?

Gonetz fixed that in his latest (0.7ME) version of Glide64. Unfortunately, no Glide wrapper works properly with OB64. Backgrounds are there, but sprites are missing! :-( You cannot have both, obviously...

But Gonetz released sources for his latest plugin and wrote that it's OK to use part of it in another one (ie yours). I'm no coder myself, so I can't say if it's difficult or not (and I bet it IS difficult) but I am sure that A LOT of people on this forum would owe you eternal gratitude for fixing this.

Best

Adam

Thanks adam for asking this favor... And of course, Thanks a million to Rice for coding it finally :) You kick ass man!!!

[willchu]

I dont think its a core issue or a plugin issue with all versions cause mine doesnt do it (U) ! version. Im using glide64 0.7 me with evoodoo 3.25 and not having many problems at all and with default settings and thats on a geforce 4 mx. maybe its because you dont use a wrapper ? dont believe the hype

Edit: Does anyone know how much better is eVoodoo 3.99 then 3.25 . I know you might say (try and find out) but whats your best guess and why since we do have this new plugin. sorry to be offtopic here .


From what I have tried out on a few games; 3.25 is actually more stable than 3.99. 3.25 runs smoother and faster...

[Clements]

From what I have tried out on a few games; 3.25 is actually more stable than 3.99. 3.25 runs smoother and faster...

True, but 3.99 is more accurate with less wrapper issues.

[Gonetz]

It is actually very nice to know that 1964.099 has JPEG decoding problem with this game, thanks, Gonetz, both 1964 0.99 and the video plugin need to be fixed for this game.
Wah, we will get new 1964 soon! Great!!!

[liteuser]

Thanks for the info guys Ill try them both and yeah I think 3.25 run smoother and faster as well. and Thanks Gonetz for this new plugin.

[willchu]

Sure it can be fixed.

It is actually very nice to know that 1964.099 has JPEG decoding problem with this game, thanks, Gonetz, both 1964 0.99 and the video plugin need to be fixed for this game.

Any chance we could have the plugin for OB64 background fixed first (so that we could try it out on PJ64) then forge the 1964 adequately follow? According to "The Lord Gonetz", it might be less difficult to implement the already solved YUV algorithm into the plugin than simultaneously fixing 1964 as in a combination... But anyway, please take your time. Any decision will be up to your majesty!!

[Rice]

It is already implemented at my hand, but I don't feel it is necessary to do a new release just for it. Are there really many people want to play this game? I should thank Gonetz so much to find the 1964 JPEG decompression problem.

[willchu]

It is already implemented at my hand, but I don't feel it is necessary to do a new release just for it. Are there really many people want to play this game? I should thank Gonetz so much to find the 1964 JPEG decompression problem.

I don't know weather there are many people want this game done (but I do :)), but I guess if your majesty has implement YUV algorithm as a new feature in your plugin, the version of Rice 5.5.0b2 might have to be changed... Each of the stepwise improvement is respectably the state of the art in emulation. Although, it can never be perfect, but every single step is a major change from imperfection. In other words, The release of Rice 5.5.0b3 is a major step of a minor modification, but one of the minor steps of the milestone... 1964 v1.0beta might sounds like a mere beta release Or it can be treated as a friendship release contributed to "The Lord Gonetz" for the imporvement of 1964 from JPEG decompression problem solution! :D After all, this is just a suggestion :) your majesty...

[adaml75]

Yes, Rice, please! Release it - it can be just a minor upgrade (but quite major for me). Look at how many people are looking into this thread and how often this subject comes up on the forum! I was waiting for years for it - and I am pretty sure it wasn't only me... I can't think about any suitable expression of my gratitude, but what would you say if I send you a nice postcard from my country? ;-)

Adam

[Nighty0]

Yes, Rice, please! Release it - it can be just a minor upgrade (but quite major for me). Look at how many people are looking into this thread and how often this subject comes up on the forum! I was waiting for years for it - and I am pretty sure it wasn't only me... I can't think about any suitable expression of my gratitude, but what would you say if I send you a nice postcard from my country? ;-)

Adam

This is a great game. Is different than all other N64 games. We can entertain many and many ours with this game!!!!!!! I agree with adaml75.

[willchu]

This is a great game. Is different than all other N64 games. We can entertain many and many ours with this game!!!!!!! I agree with adaml75.


This is absolutely right!! This game is legendary!!! I think this is the reason why Gonetz has spent hours on developing the right fitting for this game, just to make this game more enjoyable. Personally, I am a PC games fans; rarely, I play any console games, but OgreBattle series are games which stand out independent of platforms. Final verdict, this game is a must to everyone who has fingers (despite the number of fingers) :)

After Rice came out with the screen shot of this game emulated by 1964 1.0beta, I feel like walking on hot sand with my bare feet - irresistably jumping up and down... :D lol

[Modem]

It is already implemented at my hand, but I don't feel it is necessary to do a new release just for it. Are there really many people want to play this game? I should thank Gonetz so much to find the 1964 JPEG decompression problem.

Sadly, yeah. Have you looked at the PJ64 forums? It's littered with messages asking how to get this game to work. There would be a lot more people using this emu if you can manage to fix that one problem. This game seems to be one of the most liked for the N64.

[rcgamer]

count me on the -want to play list.

[BaronGalf]

Same here ! -

[-Shadow-]

Did I hear OGRE BATTLE ???? Wanna play !!! ^^ :D

[zekmyr]

Add me to the list, I've been waiting for so long to play this game again!

[Gonetz]

Ok, add me too :)
I'd like to see it with advanced texture filtering implemented in your plugin.

[Federelli]

Count me in as well, and while at it, throw us one or two extra features :):):) ;)

[Riven]

One more vote for a new release for ogre battle

[desertboy]

Another vote here

[foogy]

i love that game, havnt played it in years. you can count my vote

[LazerTag]

*raises hand*

me too. :)

Nice work Rice, and of course Gonetz for the find.

[foogy]

why dont u make a service pack, like the authors of p64 did. then you can make an update fast n easy.

[Rice]

Gonetz rules.

All of you get what you want.

[rcgamer]

thanks Rice youre the best.

[willchu]

Gonetz rules.

All of you get what you want.


Both of you guys ROCK THE HOUSE!!! We are very very very... no words to descript... black out...

[Norrec]

Yes, good work. Though, I DLed the recent "fix" and the backgrounds do look nice. However, the text is black with strips of white, and is highlighted black. Hard to read.Aalso, when in full screen mode the game seems to speed up faster than it should.

I am useing Project64 with SP1, alont with RiceVideo5[1].5.1. When I selected DirectX no picture would show at all, it would open with white blocks and then fade to black... and stay there. I updated to DirectX9.0b(or whatever the newest is) and it was the same. So OpenGL was all that would work, which seems to cause the text to be black.

I also tried 1964 with RiceVideo5[1]5.1. Which was worse, the backgrounds were a green computer chipish green, and the text... although not highlighted, was still a odd and abnormal blackish.

Are others having similer issues? Or am I simply not doing something right? If it can be fixed, and explanation of what im doing wrong and how to fix it would be appricated.

Edit, I have a Nivida Getforce FX 5200 vidio card.

[Rice]

There is no big changes from 5.5.0b2. If 5.5.0b2 works for you, 5.5.1 should also work for you.

If 5.5.0b2 does not work, you need to figure it out. It works great on my FX5200.

[rcgamer]

mine too. im guessing that maybe you need to update your drivers for your card. the newest drivers are 56.72. but 56.64 works well too.

[Norrec]

No no, the game works perfectly.... I can even see the backgrounds. The text is just..... in some spots unreadable. You are saying you do not have this problem?

[rcgamer]

turn on normal blender. this makes the words crystal clear, though it may look bad in other parts , havent tried going that far with it on yet.

[Norrec]

turn on normal blender. this makes the words crystal clear, though it may look bad in other parts , havent tried going that far with it on yet.

Yes... and where do I select the blender? As long as everything is "there" I will be happy.

[Powerlord]

While the game is running, with RiceVideo 5.5.0 and up, go to the Plug-ins -> Video Settings.. screen, Current Game Options tab. There should be a checkbox for Normal Blender that defaults to grey (which means "use default"). Click it until a checkmark appears.

Edit:
If you just see "Advanced options are not allowed to be changed." go to the General Options tab and uncheck Hide Advanced Options. In earlier versions of 5.5.x, you will need to close the Video Settings screen and reopen it for some tabs to be affected by the Hide Advanced Options setting change (5.5.0 required this, but 5.5.1 WIP doesn't... not sure about 5.5.0b and 5.5.0b2)

[Norrec]

When I go to "Current Game Options" in either Project64 or 1964 it says "Advanced options are not allowed to be changed" I bypass this... how?


Edit, Nevermind :) I found it out. Seems to be going good... I can read the text and have backgrounds. Lets hope for the best, I thank you all.

[edge]

Hi I have a problem.I can't have characters with the graphics.They are talking without the characters.Please help me.anyone can give me all of your config?I have backgrounds but no characters.I have a GeForce 4 MX 440.which Direct X must I have?perhaps it's the problem no?Thanks

[edge]

I use Project 64 1.5

[edge]

watch here Rcgamer or anyone who can help :I have the same problem as willchu :
http://www.emutalk.net/showthread.php?p=191963#post191963

[willchu]

watch here Rcgamer or anyone who can help :I have the same problem as willchu :
http://www.emutalk.net/showthread.php?p=191963#post191963


My Video Card is just like yours... Geforce4 MX440. I think we need some different settings or other means. Hope Rice will take care of it soon... finger crossed!

[willchu]

I think we should start a new post on this issue... no?

[FiSHCAKE14]

Yes, good work. Though, I DLed the recent "fix" and the backgrounds do look nice. However, the text is black with strips of white, and is highlighted black. Hard to read.Aalso, when in full screen mode the game seems to speed up faster than it should.

I am useing Project64 with SP1, alont with RiceVideo5[1].5.1. When I selected DirectX no picture would show at all, it would open with white blocks and then fade to black... and stay there. I updated to DirectX9.0b(or whatever the newest is) and it was the same. So OpenGL was all that would work, which seems to cause the text to be black.

I also tried 1964 with RiceVideo5[1]5.1. Which was worse, the backgrounds were a green computer chipish green, and the text... although not highlighted, was still a odd and abnormal blackish.

Are others having similer issues? Or am I simply not doing something right? If it can be fixed, and explanation of what im doing wrong and how to fix it would be appricated.

Edit, I have a Nivida Getforce FX 5200 vidio card.

you donwloaded the recent fix for this game?

where? 1964 0.9.9? i downloaded it and the game still have no bacgrounds!!!

what did you guys downloaded?

[adaml75]

It doesn't work with 0.9.9 because of some emulator bug (not a plugin issue). Use earlier version or PJ64 instead. Read the discussion before posting next time, please.

[FiSHCAKE14]

It doesn't work with 0.9.9 because of some emulator bug (not a plugin issue). Use earlier version or PJ64 instead. Read the discussion before posting next time, please.

sorry for not posting my problems here (you snob LOL).

i have read the discussion, man! on page one everyone is whining about how ogre battle cause some sh1t in 1964, then on page 2 rice went "thanks for telling me about this bug. who wants to play it? imma gonna make a fix!" then on page 3 everyone went "thanks rice the fix rocks!"

it never seaid anything about fixing the game!!!
ok, i tried pj 64, still no backgrounds.

what plugin should i use? help me out man.

imma gonna try 1964 0.8.5 (as written in the other discussion).

sorry if you think i flamed or i spammed. i am new here and i'm a bit frustrated about the game.

i went here to get some help, i hope i get it any time soon.

peace.


OK screw it! ITS OFFICIAL!!!

I am the happiest 23 year old stoner in the whole world!!!! :icecream:

it worked in 1964 0.8.5 and the whole copying the dll's and the rice deaedalus plugin 5.5.1 (jeez i should have read everything in the 1964 section rather than flaming!)

now i can play it!!! YAY!!!

i love you rice! I love you adam75!! I LOVE EVERYONE! YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

see you guys later, i have a game to play. LOL

keep it real ese.

cheers.

[zidane2314]

i'm sure this a noob question but how do i get rice 5.6 into 1964 8.5.

i allreay did it in .99 and i copyed evrything 2 plugins what i do?

[GamerGuyN64]

I'm playing OGB64 atm and with a Radeon 9100 64MB video card with DX9.0c Having no issues I can see the backgrounds are flawless 1964 0.9.9 runs this game so perfect I could swear I was actually playing a real N64 However I'm still experimenting with the sound plugins seeing as how RSP+Jabo's Direct make the sound choppy every so often Though the strangest thing has happend Perfect Dark U v1.0 worked for the longest time since I got 1964 0.9.9 but now it doesn't want to run which strikes me as odd since 1964 is the only emulator imo that has a solid enough core to correct almost all the problems with it (The sky bug still exists with the chopped up and pixelated sky) Well enough rambling Off to test the rest of my archives :whistling :