Playstation2 VS. GC [Archive]

Gent

June 13th, 2003, 15:31

sony's Playstation is superb for the PSX & Ps2.
Nintendo really have not been a threat to sony apart from the N64.

But you must remember that Nintendo did bring much pleasure to familys all over the world with the nes & Snes way before the psx was a glint On the designers block.

sega also enthralled us with the superb Genesis & Mega Drive.

But as a whole Nintendo i feel with the GC has let themselves down & us the paying public.

its isn't what we expected or indeed wanted after the n64.
Infact what i think we all wanted was the next Gen (DVD/CD-Rom) N128 up and we just never got that superb range Games or Quality IMO.

Although if they give us a Conkers 2 on the GC i just might forgive them for the {}:{ Zelda Wind Wa**** so far ;)

csgo

June 13th, 2003, 15:40

softwarre is very important.
there are few good games on GC,but many on PS2.
GC didn't have FF,GTA,MGS,WE...
Now it got some,but it's too late...
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and,PS2 is always the best of the best of the best in asia.

DuDe

June 13th, 2003, 17:26

Originally posted by The Gentleman

Although if they give us a Conkers 2 on the GC i just might forgive them for the {}:{ Zelda Wind Wa**** so far ;)
Busted, Conker's Bad Fur Day sequel is a XBox exclusive since Microsoft owns Rare now.

Doomulation

June 13th, 2003, 17:31

Originally posted by DuDe
Busted, Conker's Bad Fur Day sequel is a XBox exclusive since Microsoft owns Rare now.
Yeah, but gent said IF :P
Although I don't think it's gonna happend iether...since the f***ing microsoft will do it for their console only...

Plisco

June 13th, 2003, 17:39

Nintendo had built up an image that there console is only for kids and as such are not selling very well in the mature markets. They need to build up a more positive approach to the teens and adults market and never think about doing Cel shading ever again, especially to Zelda which imo is a franchise which has always appealed to the mature market.

Clements

June 13th, 2003, 17:48

I'm growing tired of such lacklustre 'next-gen games' that offer me no challenge or longevity. I'm simply wasting my money! I'm sticking to the N64 and Snes, which offer actual gameplay I like. Well unless Nintendo pull out another 10 triple A titles in one year like they did on the N64 instead of 2. What I'm saying is that all the next-gen consoles suck compared to N64. That's why I'm on this board.

Plisco

June 13th, 2003, 17:52

Originally posted by Clements
I'm growing tired of such lacklustre 'next-gen games' that offer me no challenge or longevity. I'm simply wasting my money! I'm sticking to the N64 and Snes, which offer actual gameplay I like. Well unless Nintendo pull out another 10 triple A titles in one year like they did on the N64 instead of 2. What I'm saying is that all the next-gen consoles suck compared to N64. That's why I'm on this board.

Name me 10 triple A titles by Nintendo in one year for the N64:plain::getlost:

Clements

June 13th, 2003, 17:55

Which year do you want! :happy:

eg. 2000 was the year Perfect Dark, Zelda Majora's Mask, Conkers' Bad Fur Day, Banjo-Tooie and Paper Mario were released (weren't Mario Tennis and Golf released in 2000?) Maybe not 10, but it's still a lot for one year.

Plisco

June 13th, 2003, 18:22

Not quite 10, Mario Golf/ tennis were 2000 in states not in UK though, Paper Mario was released in Feb 2001 (states dunno about the UK). Also GC is barely a year old in the UK as well yet you compare its lack of triple A games to a dead console? Bit premature IMHO.
Moving back to topic slightly, GC's lineup this year could improve its current sales by quite a bit, F-Zero, 1080, wario world, final fantasy cc, mgs:twin snakes...many more??. As I said in my previous post appealing to the mature market is. I think this year and beginning of next will be key to Nintendo as it really is there make or break year.

Tagrineth

June 13th, 2003, 18:39

Nintendo's problem through N64's entire lifetime and GCN's start was Yamauchi. He had no idea what gamers wanted anymore.

Iwata knows, though; he WAS a dev himself until he became Yamauchi's successor.

Just compare GBA-SP to all of Nintendo's previous designs if you don't believe me.

EDIT: Oh, and Clements: Your view is skewed quite a bit, because on N64, the majourity of good games are Nintendo's. And you know why? Because there were very, very few good 3rd parties dev'ing for N64.

Now with GameCube it's a little different; they actually have some 3rd-party support, but it seems like in-house games have suffered somewhat as a result (Wind Waker is pretty disappointing, but not because of cel-shading; Star Fox Adventures is a joke).

Gent

June 13th, 2003, 18:51

Originally posted by DuDe
Busted, Conker's Bad Fur Day sequel is a XBox exclusive since Microsoft owns Rare now.
lmao yea right like you cant get nearly all the GC & x-box games on the PS2 anyway :P

If thats the case Though :plain:
and its only for the x-box GC am a Total {}:{ and i had no need to buy it as zelda was crap :cry:

2fast4u

June 13th, 2003, 19:04

Originally posted by Tagrineth

Now with GameCube it's a little different; they actually have some 3rd-party support, but it seems like in-house games have suffered somewhat as a result (Wind Waker is pretty disappointing, but not because of cel-shading; Star Fox Adventures is a joke).

mario sunshine didnt stack up to mario64, which doesnt neccesarily mean its a bad game tho.
i wasnt disappointed of the wind waker either (i havent beat it yet, but hell).
as for how mario kart and golf (ahem) look i cant see a particular quality loss :)

csgo

June 13th, 2003, 19:07

Originally posted by 2fast4u
mario sunshine didnt stack up to mario64, which doesnt neccesarily mean its a bad game tho.
i wasnt disappointed of the wind waker either (i havent beat it yet, but hell).

Mario Sunshine is very "strange"...waiting for Mario128.
Wind Waker is very good,oh yeah,it's very good!

alexa999

June 13th, 2003, 19:09

PS2 Sucks! GC Rocks!:D

DiaBlo6662

June 13th, 2003, 20:01

Originally posted by alexa999
PS2 Sucks! GC Rocks!:D

what a useless post.. :baaa:

I had my GC but sold it cuz no good games were available when i had it.. the only game that i bough was metroid prime cuz was looking real good and i liked it.. besides that i want mario kart series / mario party but those games will release in the end of the year so i sold my GC to buy a PS2..
by far ps2 as many good games and the plus that it has a modchip that u can buy cheap dvd copies :)

Tagrineth

June 13th, 2003, 20:09

Originally posted by The Gentleman
lmao yea right like you cant get nearly all the GC & x-box games on the PS2 anyway :P

:lol: Lame-ass statement of the Decade.

If thats the case Though :plain:
and its only for the x-box GC am a Total {}:{ and i had no need to buy it as zelda was crap :cry:

Rare made Conker.

Nintendo sold Rare to Microsoft.

Microsoft owns Rare.

Microsoft indirectly owns Conker.

Microsoft will not allow a Conker game on other consoles. Well, maybe GBA, but not farther than that.

Gent

June 13th, 2003, 23:27

Originally posted by Tagrineth

Originally posted by The Gentleman
lmao yea right like you cant get nearly all the GC & x-box games on the PS2 anyway :P

:lol: Lame-ass statement the Decade.

Well TAG :) The only thing lame is it happens to be true.

The X-box claimed that all their games would be exclusive to the x-box.
lol talk about lies ;)

The GC was gonna Sport some fantastic stuff exclusive to the GC only.

True they have some stuff exclusive, now everyone is just waiting for it to be fantastic lmao.

The only good thing about most games being on all three consoles, is that for the PS2 its worth buying it For :P

Originally posted by Tagrineth

If thats the case Though :plain:
and its only for the x-box GC am a Total {}:{ and i had no need to buy it as zelda was crap :cry:
:Rare made Conker.
Nintendo sold Rare to Microsoft.
Microsoft owns Rare.
Microsoft indirectly owns Conker.
Microsoft will not allow a Conker game on other consoles. Well, maybe GBA, but not farther than that.

course on this i was Joking about conkers.
But not the GC being {}:{ bit :)
The only reason i have a GC in my House is my wife wanted it.
I wouldn't step on the crap incase it scratched my shoes whilst doing so.

But people seem to like it (maybe cause they bought it and don't want to feel ashamed) so each to their own

Tagrineth

June 13th, 2003, 23:48

Originally posted by The Gentleman
Well TAG :) The only thing lame is it happens to be true.

The X-box claimed that all their games would be exclusive to the x-box.
lol talk about lies ;)

The GC was gonna Sport some fantastic stuff exclusive to the GC only.

True they have some stuff exclusive, now everyone is just waiting for it to be fantastic lmao.

The only good thing about most games being on all three consoles, is that for the PS2 its worth buying it For :P

Uhm. Most of GameCube's best games are either A. Exclusive to the system (Metroid Prime, Skies of Arcadia Legends) or B. better on the GameCube (Burnout 2, TimeSplitters 2)

Not as much for Xbox, though. Oh well. But multiplatform games tend to be better on Xbox/GCN than PS2. The only exception I can think of offhand is Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance, because on the GC and Xbox they didn't use the stick, which is horribly retarded anyway.

But people seem to like it (maybe cause they bought it and don't want to feel ashamed) so each to their own

Um... OK... if you say so. I have 22 GameCube games. Most of them paid for by ME. I only regret paying for maybe 2-3 of them total.

Gent

June 14th, 2003, 00:01

I did say so each to their own

I am glad you paid for & enjoy the games you bought i really do.
If it floats ya boat Sail away i say.

but for me being a slight advantage being there the 1st world shattering, highly amazing time ever with brand new things like the Arcade machine
Atari Home consoles, Nes, Snes, Sega etc

I have kind of grown to expect more from a new Hyped release any newer Games Console.

The N64 (never let me down) The PSX & PS2 (never let me down)

You know my opinion on the Game Cube

Now i have to reformat so have a nice day.

Davemc

June 14th, 2003, 00:27

I don't give a shit I have both. Kthx.

I agree with Tagrineth though. TS2 on GC is a lot better than the PS2 one, though I do struggle to see an awful lot of difference between the PS2 and GC Burnout 2 though.

AlphaWolf

June 14th, 2003, 02:01

Originally posted by Tagrineth

EDIT: Oh, and Clements: Your view is skewed quite a bit, because on N64, the majourity of good games are Nintendo's. And you know why? Because there were very, very few good 3rd parties dev'ing for N64.

Whose fault do you think that was? Nintendo got all big headed after the success of the snes, and thought they were the entire gaming market, so they made these realy stupid anal licensing policies and thought they could get away with it, but it turned out that they were wrong. N64 was the beginning of nintendos downfall, microsoft replacing them as second place is simply signing and sealing the deal.

Now with GameCube it's a little different; they actually have some 3rd-party support, but it seems like in-house games have suffered somewhat as a result (Wind Waker is pretty disappointing, but not because of cel-shading; Star Fox Adventures is a joke).

They have some, but what they have now is laughable compared to sony, microsoft, and what they had in the snes days. GC has utter crap for non nintendo branded exclusives. As for the games you are speaking of, wasn't I telling you the same thing on IRC a few weeks back and you were disagreeing with me? :happy:

marioshroom

June 14th, 2003, 02:23

everyone of the console is a fanboy!

of course the computer is the best, so i am the emulation player!

this is emutalk not lameconsoletalk!

ms/nintendo/sony are evil capital based creature who like a fiefdom of old times to the people!

don't buy crap of them!

Tagrineth

June 14th, 2003, 02:28

Originally posted by AlphaWolf
Whose fault do you think that was? Nintendo got all big headed after the success of the snes, and thought they were the entire gaming market, so they made these realy stupid anal licensing policies and thought they could get away with it, but it turned out that they were wrong. N64 was the beginning of nintendos downfall, microsoft replacing them as second place is simply signing and sealing the deal.

Um... GameCube doesn't have nearly the problems N64 does. It has a LOT of 3rd party support.

They have some, but what they have now is laughable compared to sony, microsoft, and what they had in the snes days. GC has utter crap for non nintendo branded exclusives. As for the games you are speaking of, wasn't I telling you the same thing on IRC a few weeks back and you were disagreeing with me? :happy:

Um... no? I was arguing that The Wind Waker is a wonderful game, and I never contradicted that. It IS disappointing. I never said otherwise.

Edit:

everyone of the console is a fanboy!

of course the computer is the best, so i am the emulation player!

this is emutalk not lameconsoletalk!

ms/nintendo/sony are evil capital based creature who like a fiefdom of old times to the people!

don't buy crap of them!

Um. EMUtalk. EMULATION of Classic Consoles. If you don't like consoles, get the fuck out of here because that's the main theme of this ENTIRE FORUM.

marioshroom

June 14th, 2003, 02:48

u r just to the argue with me.

and http://tenebrae.sourceforge.net/
rocks!

and it is one of a few game to make use of new gfx cards, also, yes we also are looking of the new version forward, but this is true of all things maybe?

get the fuck out is a rude thing to say of just some opinion.

i am only of interest in emulation of a console, personally, so that is what i had said. consoles of the self are not for me nearly as fun than with an emulator, and certainly they make the less interest from a standing point of the companies that make them also. for me anyway.

you a rude person of bad manners.

shroomario

Tagrineth

June 14th, 2003, 03:58

Originally posted by marioshroom
u r just to the argue with me.

and http://tenebrae.sourceforge.net/
rocks!

and it is one of a few game to make use of new gfx cards, also, yes we also are looking of the new version forward, but this is true of all things maybe?

The original Quake is a pretty bad game.

Tenebrae is a remake of Quake.

Tenebrae uses bump maps and specular highlights on EVERYTHING, making them all look like plastic and horrible.

Tenebrae implements real light sources in place of ambient light + lightmaps, meaning the game is horribly dark except near the 4 light sources per level.

And finally, it does not make use of new graphics cards. It's the same as DOOM3. Anything more recent than a GeForce256 (OLD) can run it, you just need DOT3 and Cube Mapping support.

AlphaWolf

June 14th, 2003, 04:11

Originally posted by Tagrineth

Um... no? I was arguing that The Wind Waker is a wonderful game, and I never contradicted that. It IS disappointing. I never said otherwise.

Hm...I don't remember zelda specificaly, but I -do- remember you calling me shallow for saying that all of the starfox games after the original sucked ass. :satisfied

Tagrineth

June 14th, 2003, 04:19

Originally posted by AlphaWolf
Hm...I don't remember zelda specificaly, but I -do- remember you calling me shallow for saying that all of the starfox games after the original sucked ass. :satisfied

Star Fox 2 owns.

NeoNight

June 14th, 2003, 05:59

Originally posted by The Gentleman
lmao yea right like you cant get nearly all the GC & x-box games on the PS2 anyway :P

If thats the case Though :plain:
and its only for the x-box GC am a Total {}:{ and i had no need to buy it as zelda was crap :cry:

ahh another poor soul that bought the GC thinking conkers bad fur day 2 (i.e. conker live and uncut) was going to be on the GC.. nope its for xbox and xbox live and it looks great.... whith things such as weapon upgrades in multiplayer, like duel swords, duel light swords ...ect

ra5555

June 14th, 2003, 06:16

Originally posted by csgo
Wind Waker is very good,oh yeah,it's very good!

/me agrees :cheers:

Stezo2k

June 14th, 2003, 15:57

Originally posted by DiaBlo6662
what a useless post.. :baaa:

I had my GC but sold it cuz no good games were available when i had it.. the only game that i bough was metroid prime cuz was looking real good and i liked it.. besides that i want mario kart series / mario party but those games will release in the end of the year so i sold my GC to buy a PS2..
by far ps2 as many good games and the plus that it has a modchip that u can buy cheap dvd copies :)

heh same situation here, well said mate, only thing i liked about GC was resident evil and PAL@60Hz

Davemc

June 14th, 2003, 16:12

If I had to choose out of PS2 and GC then I'd choose PS2 because it has an English Pro Evolution Soccer 2 ;)

csgo

June 14th, 2003, 20:09

Originally posted by dayve
If I had to choose out of PS2 and GC then I'd choose PS2 because it has an English Pro Evolution Soccer 2 ;)
oh,yeah,I decide to buy a PS2.

scotty

June 15th, 2003, 06:16

once I got a PC that was it. The problem with Gamecube was I think the RPG games actually leaving N64, all of them went to Playstaion in 1996. Now There is some Final Fantasy Cristal Chronicles coming out from Sqaure-Enix for Gamecube, will it actually put up Nintendo, maybe who knows.

Really the thing I think that really does it why Nintendo lost its power, the lisensing policy they have. Nintendo like has all this crap about liscensing, many games have been changed due to certian things in them, yet Conker's Bad Fur Day, probably would have been banned if Rare was not partially owned by Nintendo at the time.
(edit): Nintendo has to allow some bit of that stuff, itll get the Mature market back out, and heck RPG's might have somewhat a small return to Nintendo. Dont get me wrong Nintendo might still fall, but I think all companies fall sometime in their life, nothing lasts forever. (edit)

If I get another console system (Which I doubt) Im probably gonna get an Xbox, why do you ask me, well I find it really weird how all my life I have had computers (Ultimate - Play the game, former name of Rare), and consoles with Rare, I really think as if I have and will keep continuing to support Rare and all of their games. Microsoft may be a greedy company, but so what, they too will probably fall in a few years, now that Xbox has come out, it appears that Mac and Linux are slowly getting a larger part of the market, not much but they are slwly moving.

scotty

June 15th, 2003, 06:32

Gamecube needs more Games by Konami as well, they may have a few games on there, but like I think all of them are also on Playstation so Konami probably should have some games exclusive to Gamecube. Konami develops more for Gameboy, yes that is true, but most of their exclusive console games are on Playstation 2

Tagrineth

June 15th, 2003, 06:36

Originally posted by scotty
once I got a PC that was it. The problem with Gamecube was I think the RPG games actually leaving N64, all of them went to Playstaion in 1996. Now There is some Final Fantasy Cristal Chronicles coming out from Sqaure-Enix for Gamecube, will it actually put up Nintendo, maybe who knows.

Really the thing I think that really does it why Nintendo lost its power, the lisensing policy they have. Nintendo like has all this crap about liscensing, many games have been changed due to certian things in them, yet Conker's Bad Fur Day, probably would have been banned if Rare was not partially owned by Nintendo at the time.
(edit): Nintendo has to allow some bit of that stuff, itll get the Mature market back out, and heck RPG's might have somewhat a small return to Nintendo. Dont get me wrong Nintendo might still fall, but I think all companies fall sometime in their life, nothing lasts forever. (edit)

Dude. Nintendo hasn't done any censoring in years.

Look at the massively excessive blood in Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance (for the record, Nintendo didn't order Midway to change the original MK's blood colour, but Midway still left MK2 SNES's blood as it was originally). Or how about BMX XXX? It's fully uncensored on GameCube, UNlike PS2 where Sony made them remove all topless nudity.

If I get another console system (Which I doubt) Im probably gonna get an Xbox, why do you ask me, well I find it really weird how all my life I have had computers (Ultimate - Play the game, former name of Rare), and consoles with Rare, I really think as if I have and will keep continuing to support Rare and all of their games. Microsoft may be a greedy company, but so what, they too will probably fall in a few years, now that Xbox has come out, it appears that Mac and Linux are slowly getting a larger part of the market, not much but they are slwly moving.

Macs have been gaining market share since before Xbox (iMac was the main 'big push' and OS X helped too)... and Linux's adoption rate is increasing probably because of Microsoft backing off on some of their strong-arm tactics against OEM's (for example, IBM is now using Linux for servers).

There's no way Microsoft will fall, period. Have you looked at their market capitalisation compared to other companies?

marioshroom

June 15th, 2003, 09:52

i think on this you are a dead wrong.

inevitable will all open source dominate everything.

yes not in 2 days, but maybe in 2 years or maybe in 202 years.

this is an inevitable thing for the open source is always to improvement, and also the most fast!

of everything on my computer (except windows) is the open source alternative the better:

Mozilla
The Gimp
Emule
1964
zsnes
quake2max
dscaler
vlc
cdex
dvdx

of only things not to have changed (yet), but will someday be ready and the better:

trillian pro (someday gaim or another will be the better, i am sure!)

nero (don't know of open source one, yet, that has this powers!) YET

ut2k3 (q2max, tenebrae, something will be of the better eventually!)

winamp (so many for the plugins makes it better than the cool player (so far))

Cool Edit (will i switch to audacity, when it has 2 key features of i am needing)

and windows the whole thing, for most of the things i am using are on it better (so far!)

in the end will all be open source, and with no errors for it to have been looked at all the most, by the most of the people!

this is the most exciting of emulation for me, for now in the future will so many games last forever that may die when the console/carts are thrown away and lost!

shroomario

AlphaWolf

June 15th, 2003, 17:20

Linux mplayer would probably replace all of your media stuff if it had a win port. Mplayer supports every media format that exists, and it has about a million different features for streaming, filtering (including a built in 2xsai filter), and several others.

Hell, windows media player couldn't even try to compete with linux mplayer.

marioshroom

June 16th, 2003, 03:40

i am liking the vlc for it will also play the dvds of all regions.

this is a thing i am not understanding of region encoding.

this is a stupid corporate thing?

yeah vlc.

and yes, i have wanted to be of the mplayer, but the windows port is not of the best same.

shroomario

Flash

June 16th, 2003, 13:39

Originally posted by DuDe
Busted, Conker's Bad Fur Day sequel is a XBox exclusive since Microsoft owns Rare now.

It's not a sequel, like UT not a sequel of Unreal.

Or i've missed something and there's a plans for true CBFD 2, not only a... huh... CBFD tournament. :)

pj64er

June 16th, 2003, 17:28

marioshroom....WHAT IS THE TOPIC OF THIS THREAD?!

The way I see it, the thing that PS2 has that the GameCube doesnt is....Piracy. Throughout Sony's history with consoles, i dont remember any long period of time where people werent pirating its playstation (2) games. Piracy = cheaper games, cheaper games = more systems sold, more systems sold = more kids pimping the system that they bought. This peer pimpage is probably much more effective than any super bowl commercial...think of all the people who buys stuff just cuz all their friends did (of course, no accusations...i have no idea what your exact thoughts where when you bought your PS2).
On the other hand, Nintendo has been going out of its way to fight piracy. Heh, GC disc dumps have only reciently been made...and when did the system actually come out? In the end, all that the GameCube can rely on is its few fanboys spreading the word and the shitty (US) commericals that nintendo pumps out.

Davemc

June 17th, 2003, 00:38

Who really cares which is best? I don't at all. I have 9 PS2 games (recently sold loads) and 6 Gamcube games. But I have had my PS2 a year longer than Gamecube.

AlphaWolf

June 17th, 2003, 01:26

Originally posted by pj64er

The way I see it, the thing that PS2 has that the GameCube doesnt is....Piracy. Throughout Sony's history with consoles, i dont remember any long period of time where people werent pirating its playstation (2) games. Piracy = cheaper games, cheaper games = more systems sold, more systems sold = more kids pimping the system that they bought. This peer pimpage is probably much more effective than any super bowl commercial...think of all the people who buys stuff just cuz all their friends did (of course, no accusations...i have no idea what your exact thoughts where when you bought your PS2).
On the other hand, Nintendo has been going out of its way to fight piracy. Heh, GC disc dumps have only reciently been made...and when did the system actually come out? In the end, all that the GameCube can rely on is its few fanboys spreading the word and the shitty (US) commericals that nintendo pumps out.

Well, technicaly speaking, you are correct here, as the xbox took longer to crack than the PS2, so its popularity could have shot up before GC...but then again, I don't think any company would dare spend any money to take a census that in any way legitamizes piracy lest they be severely scruitinized and sued.

nephalim

June 17th, 2003, 01:53

I have no doubt that Nintendo is shooting themselves in the foot with their hardcore Anti-Piracy, Anti-Emulation stance.

On top of that, go take a look at the rack for PS2 at your local video game store. Then take a look at the GCN's. Tell me you can't see how the GCN is viewed as a "kiddy" console. :plain:

I bought a GCN for Wind Waker (yes, it has a FEW other games I want, maybe 3 or so, but Wind Waker/The bonus disc is what sold it.) I am sorely dissapointed, and now that MQ was leaked, i'm regretting wasting my money. I would have been better off buying 1 of the 20 or so games I would like for the PS2. :doh:

Small side note: I can't believe how many people think there will be a 128-bit console. :geek:

marioshroom

June 17th, 2003, 10:57

is the topic gc vs ps2?

am i a winner of something?

i think there will be someday a quantum console, much less the 128 bit.

but i will still not a console have, and be playing of the much better quantum computer and ATI quanteon. and still probably play 1964 version 3.7

lol
:saint:

DuDe

June 17th, 2003, 19:29

Originally posted by Flash
It's not a sequel, like UT not a sequel of Unreal.

Or i've missed something and there's a plans for true CBFD 2, not only a... huh... CBFD tournament. :)
Microsoft owns the rights for the Conker trademark. If the upcoming game is not a sequel to CBFD, then the next one will be, or the one after it, or whatever. The point is, that if there will ever be a sequel to CBFD, it will come out on the XBox, and that's what I meant.

FAR

June 18th, 2003, 08:43

Wind Waker is very good,oh yeah,it's very good!

FAR agrees:flowers:

pj64er

June 19th, 2003, 19:06

Originally posted by marioshroom
is the topic gc vs ps2?

am i a winner of something?

i think there will be someday a quantum console, much less the 128 bit.

but i will still not a console have, and be playing of the much better quantum computer and ATI quanteon. and still probably play 1964 version 3.7

lol
:saint:

I guess you dont get it, either your english is bad, or you are young. Anyway, lemme put it this way. In this thread, we are comparing how consoles are doing, not talking about the open-source movement/tenebrae/quantum computers (?!). If that is what youd like to discuss, make a thread for it :)

AlphaWolf

June 20th, 2003, 17:45

I dunno about the rest of you guys, but I think I would put 50/50 odds on nintendo never producing another console. If they did produce another one, I doubt it would sell much more than the dreamcast did.

/me pulls up his flame shield :happy:

marioshroom

June 21st, 2003, 01:42

of me to a "sarcastic" been. this is what a friend says.

also is my english not of the best, for anyone to see.

this point i was making:
console sales are irrelevant for eventually will all things be of emulation on very good computers which are the better every day!

this other point i am agreeing with alphawolf, and some others maybe.

GC sales are not of the best. they have lost outright to MS and sony. why? maybe because the piracy is the less, maybe for another reason such as the crap selection of games to a comparison with ps2. although also are the games not so great for an xbox, so how does it win? this is not for me to know!

if i was to be a guesser, nintendo will try again, but without more of a good game like super mario world was of n64 and of snes, then they will not have a success.

also will they maybe not have a success for sony and ms are mean bad companies to beat them easily.

this is too bad for me so i am a big fan of some nintendo games!
:plain:

pj64er

June 21st, 2003, 05:27

Originally posted by marioshroom
of me to a "sarcastic" been. this is what a friend says.

also is my english not of the best, for anyone to see.

this point i was making:
console sales are irrelevant for eventually will all things be of emulation on very good computers which are the better every day!

Being poor at a language does hide sarcasm pretty well, so forgive me for missing it.

Since that is the point that you were making, Id like to say very good computers would be irrelevant for eventually we would all have scorpians that hovar without flapping.