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Can't run Direct 3D HAL, Anything I can do?

Pushead

Pushead

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Pentium 4 1.99 Ghz
GeForce 4 MX 420
Creative Sound Blaster Live!
256 Mb RAM
25 Gb free Hard Drive Space
Windows XP Home Edition
Direct X9

My video card doesn't support Direct 3d HAL. Is there a driver I can download for this? I have downloaded all the latest nVidia drivers and the latest Windows updates. I am running PJ64 with the Open GL plugin but it doesn't support some roms. Is there anything I can do?
 
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GuestX

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uhm... no, your graphics card has Direct3D HAL support,
i have the same graphics card. try 1964, i think it will
help....


BTW -> BTM: don't think its a DX9 prob :p
 
EvilTwin

EvilTwin

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I havent seen any OpenGL plugins that do all commercial games but u started thread about Direct 3D. But if u wanna play most commercial games use Direct3D plugins like (default) Jabo's 1.5 . Also check if the emulator can play the game if not try another good emulator called 1964 Most games go faster on it but this emulator is less stable but i cant tell u much about 1964 since i never use it. Hope this helps
-E.T.
 
icepir8

icepir8

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I'd try XP service pack 1 if you haven't already.

Also uninstall your video drivers and do a clean install. Sometimes things get bungled up and that is the only way to fix them.

hope this helps
 
Doomulation

Doomulation

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That card indeed supports direct3d hal (which is, afaik, normal usage, which all games use for direct3d [directx]).
Also make sure that color depth isn't set to 24-bit, as it may cause problems with directx sometimes.
 
returno

returno

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not 256 either

Also don't set your desktop to 256 colors or you will get a HAL error every time.
 
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Pushead

Pushead

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Thanks. I tried 1964 and was able to get it to work (though it was a bit choppy). Still, I would like to get PJ64 to run. As far as I can tell, my card does not support Direct3DHAL, only OpenGL. Does anyone know if there is somethng I can download for this? I had already downloaded the Windows XP Service Pack and the latest nVidia drivers (as I mentioned in my original post), and they did not help. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the drivers without any luck. Also, I can only set my color depth to 16-bit or 32-bit and either way it wont work. Any other ideas?
 
Doomulation

Doomulation

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Make sure you have the right dx version. Reinstall dx.
And also: ALL CARDS SUPPORT Direct3D HAL.
Oh, and that wasn't screaming, just a notice ;)
Without it, you cannot play even a 3d game on your computer! Think about it.
 
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Pushead

Pushead

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Not HAL

My card supports Direct3D, but not Direct3DHAL. Thanks, anyway. I will try to reinstall Direct X, though.
 
Tagrineth

Tagrineth

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Re: Not HAL

Pushead said:
My card supports Direct3D, but not Direct3DHAL. Thanks, anyway. I will try to reinstall Direct X, though.
Click to expand...

Painful reading such needless confusion >_<

HAL means Hardware Abstraction Layer, it just means the driver can't access the hardware directly. It's a Good Thing™.

Direct3D non-HAL is used by Windows 9x because 9x doesn't protect your hardware; therefore programmes can access things directly. This is a big cause of crashes though, so for Windows NT Microsoft introduced a HAL. It's a generic layer which the driver accesses to gain hardware control; this allows Windows to remain functional even when the hardware stalls... USUALLY.

You're sure you downloaded a Windows XP driver... in which case you should support Direct3D HAL but not Direct3D. ;)

Basically, my best suggestion would be visit nVidia's web site and download the latest WHQL Detonator. If even those don't help, then you MIGHT have faulty hardware. Maybe.
 
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Pushead

Pushead

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Here is an insert from my nVidia Driver's readme file;

File list
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ALIAGP.SYS - AGP support file for Aladdin TNT2
DMCPL.EXE - NVIDIA nView control panel
GENERIC.TVP - NVIDIA nView generic desktop profile
KEYSTONE.EXE - NVIDIA NVKeystone application
NV4_DISP.DLL - NVIDIA display driver
NV4_DISP.INF - Windows 2000/XP display driver information file for NVIDIA
NV4_MINI.SYS - NVIDIA miniport driver
NVCPL.DLL - NVIDIA display properties extension
NVCPL.HLP - NVIDIA display properties extension help file
NVIEW.DLL - NVIDIA nView desktop and window manager
NVIEWIMG.DLL - NVIDIA nView image library
NVINSTNT.DLL - NVIDIA installation/uninstallation support file
NVMCTRAY.DLL - NVIDIA media center library
NVOGLNT.DLL - NVIDIA OpenGL driver
NVSHELL.DLL - NVIDIA desktop explorer
NVSVC32.EXE - NVIDIA Windows 2000/XP helper service
NVTUICPL.CPL - NVIDIA nView control panel
NVWCPLEN.HLP - NVIDIA nView help file
NWIZ.EXE - NVIDIA nView wizard
README.TXT - The file you're reading

I don't see anything for Direct3DHAL, or any Direct 3D. I think I'm missing the file needed for Direct3D. Am I looking in the wrong place? I'm sorry if I'm being an idiot about this, but I really want to get PJ64 running. By the way I appreciate anyone who tries to help me.
 
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Pushead

Pushead

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Sorry.

:blush: I would like to apologize for my idiocy. I have solved my problem and found that the source was infact the plugin I was using. For some reason I can't use Jabo's direct 3d plugin. Oh well.
 
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