It worked well a month ago, but now...

[Anchel]

Hi all:
I'm having a weird problem with PJ64 on Windows XP.
Before this problem, I could play all the playable games almost perfectly, with good framerate. I was using Windows 98.
Now, I've recently installed Windows XP, and I tried to play again with PJ64, with the same plugins and same configuration, but the framerate was going sloooooooow. I've tried many things with the configuration, but I haven't managed to make it work better.
WTF is going on?
My specs are:
-Pentium 4 1700 Mhz
-512 Mb RAM
-ATI Radeon 7500
I think that's enough, saying that it worked perfectly before Windows XP.
Thanks beforehand

[supergamer]

You have to update your video-card drivers ( www.ati.com ).

[Anchel]

I forgot to mention I had already done that :P
But once I've installed it, I get a problem with my monitor (unsoported mode) and I can't do anything else than restarting my computer in SAFE MODE

[supergamer]

Wich video-plugin are you using?

[Anchel]

Latest ATI Radeon plugin
It works now, but PJ64 still doesn't work well

[JevilKnevil]

What? There's a Radeon plugin? Don't you mean Radeon driver?

[whatboy]

Drivers for W98 aren't the same for XP...

[Anchel]

Oh wait, I answered wrong Supergamer's question.
I'm using Jabo's Direct3D6 1.5, Jabo's Direct sound 1.5.
About different Radeon plugins for XP, I've downloaded the ones for Windows XP, so it can't be that

[supergamer]

Try to use another plugin (or maybe emulator). Does this work faster?

[f0sta]

i have a simliar prob wit my pj64, it ws fine untill i got a new graphics card now the somes run at 35 to 40 fps, i now got a geforce 4 mx 440 128meg, before i was using a tnt2 pro 32meg, and was usin the latest drivers for both the tnt and the geforce 4

dunno y its happin? anyone any ideas?

specs are:

athlon xp 2100+ (1.73 gig)
512 sdram
geforce 4 mx 440 128meg

cheers

f0sta

[supergamer]

Originally posted by f0sta
i have a simliar prob wit my pj64, it ws fine untill i got a new graphics card now the somes run at 35 to 40 fps, i now got a geforce 4 mx 440 128meg, before i was using a tnt2 pro 32meg, and was usin the latest drivers for both the tnt and the geforce 4

dunno y its happin? anyone any ideas?

specs are:

athlon xp 2100+ (1.73 gig)
512 sdram
geforce 4 mx 440 128meg

cheers

f0sta

Yes. Magic! I had an Ati Rage Pro (8mb) and it was running emulation faster than my geforce2 (32mb)!

[f0sta]

so from that reply ure sayin u dont no i take it?

i was just playin around wit hte settins in my bios, and thought id see wat would happen if i changed the display from agp to pci, doin that made the emulation alot faster, but the display wasnt as nice as it is on vga. but the thing is that i thought agp is faster than pci??????

im lost? f0sta

[BTM]

VGA ? AGP is faster than PCI, but VGA ? I'm lost, isn't VGA a Video Graphic Adapter - not a mb slot ??

[f0sta]

oops sorry, i meant agp :P coz im rushin :P

[BTM]

Windows XP has a priority function, try increasing the emu priority ( damn - is this word correct ? 4give me if im wrong ;] i'm not a native english speaker guy ) to high ( or highiest - but this could lock up your machine).

Start the emu
Pres CTRL+ALT+DEL
Goto Proces list ( or sth. dont have eng windows ;] )
R-Click the proces with emu name and change it.

[f0sta]

nope, still runs the same, thanks anyway

anyone else got any ideas?

[f0sta]

im gonna make a new thread ive kinda overtaken this one, sorry

[Anchel]

Anyway, I still don't get it to work well (I've tried other plugins and emulators, but they don't work fast...)

[BTM]

tried my advice ??

[Anchel]

Yes, but it just makes the whole computer go slower

[supergamer]

Maybe this question is a bit late, but wich games are running slow?

[BTM]

well - thats what we all love in windows :]

[Anchel]

LOL :D :D :D

Anyway, I've noticed that even using it normally, the whole computer goes much slower.
I'm already thinking I'll never be able to use PJ64 in this computer :geek:

[Jeanakin]

My pc is an Athlon XP 1800 with 256 ddr (333), GeForce 2 Mx 200 64 mb, 30gb hd and Windows xp pro. I've tried some plugin combinations but none of them really worked, even changing priority, turning sound off (no audio plugin) and so on. Is there any other way than get back to win 98? More ram would REALLY help in this case or is it time to own a new video card? With my PIII 733 with 512 ram and same gf2 mx, project 64 ran smothly in 1024x768, but with my new pc with windows xp some games like Asteroid 64 looks like a slide show in some moments (even freezing for several seconds!!!), in the other hand mario 64 and Pokemon stadium run smoth... I'd appreciate any help :) Ah, all the drivers are updated with newest versions and detonator.


Thanks for reading.

Jeanakin

[Anchel]

It seems to be the same problem as me, but Mario 64 doesn't work well for me :plain:

[Orkin]

I have an Athlon XP 1700+ and a GeForce 256 (the first one) on Windows XP, and I've found that Jabo's video v1.5 doesn't work as well as 1.4 for me. 1.5 frequently pauses for several seconds, while 1.4 runs smooth. I'm not sure if it's a 1.5/XP incompatibility or what.

Of course, I've recently been using my own plugin more than Jabo's anyway... :D

[Jeanakin]

So... where is your plugin ? heheehehe. I'm serious, could you put a link of it to us, at least is a light in the end of the road for us all!!! :daedalus: In some cases I think a "fresh" install of OS, drivers and "boosters" (just like detonator) can solve some speed problem. When I did it, I've tested P64 in each step so I could see the results and Mario is something of a "must run" for all emulators. Achel, have you tried to download your rom from another source? Maybe it's corrupted.


[]s

Jeanakin

[Anchel]

...
I said since the first post that this worked well on Win98.
Seconldy, I'd like to ask you all if you could please try to make an effort to say my name RIGHT.
(If you didn't know, Anchel is my real name too).

Also, it seems that the slowdowns are only for Jabo's Direct3D6 1.5, but I still want to know what's going on

[Anchel]

I don't suppose there's something I can do to use Jabo's plugin, right?

[RJA]

If you are, it appears to be a NT based
OS (Windows 2000/XP) problem, because
I have seen on one of the message boards about Windows XP users having
slow D3D game performance.

A solution:

Upgrade the Radeon drivers.

[Anchel]

I had already done that.
I went to Ati's webpage and downloaded the latest driver for the Radeon series, but it doesn't seem to do anything better

[RJA]

You are required to reinstall Windows XP.
Do you have the Windows XP CD,
I386 folder on second hard disk (D)
or a recovery partition made by the OEM?
If you do, you are required to redo
Windows XP.

Remember:
1. During the Windows XP installation process, you *MUST* choose to reformat
your system hard disk drive (C)


2. You are *REQUIRED* to reinstall all
your drivers if you reinstall Windows.

[BTM]

why ? i installed win xp on win 98 and it's working ok, PJ64 runs at 50 FPS

[Idonex]

ok.

Do normal Direct3D applications work ok (games etc)?

Go to Start -> Run and type dxdiag. Then when it's loaded click on the 3rd tab for Display. What does it say under DirectDraw, Direct3D and AGP Texture acceleration.

What ATi drivers are you using? I am using the Catalyst 0.2.3 set and they work fine.

Although i have had problems with PJ64 under XP before. The same as you, i was dual booting 98 and XP. It worked fine in 98 but not at all in XP. 1.4 didn't didn't even load, i'd click the exe and it would cause a general protection fault in module project64.exe every time. PJ64 1.5 is the first version i've got working.

[Anchel]

Idonex, I've done what you said, and it says "no problems found".
What did you do when PJ64 had the same problem as me in WXP?
The problem only happens to me with Jabo's D3D 6 1.5
I'm using the latest ATI drivers I could find in their webpage.

[Idonex]

What you could try doing, to help pinpoint what is making the graphics slow, is to install 1964, copy RSP.DLL and Jabo_Direct3D6.DLL from the PJ64 plugins folder (and any other gfx plugins you want to test) to the 1964 plugins folder and try playing some games in 1964.

The setup is almost identical to PJ64. One tip, once you've changed the gfx plugin (from Plugins -> Change Plugins) in 1964 you might have to restart 1964 to change the settings. Also go to Plugins -> Change Plugins and then tick Use RSP Plugin.

If it works fine then maybe something in PJ64 doesn't like your PC, if it doesn't then we know it's the plugin that your PC doesn't like.

When PJ64 didn't work i just couldn't use it in XP and left it. Later on i dumped 98 totally and when 1.5 came out i tried again and it worked :)

One last thing, do normal games work fine, and in dxdiag did it say all Acceleration types were 'Enabled'? They should be.

Oh and is every game slow in PJ64?

[Anchel]

Normal games work fine, all aceleration modes are enabled and every N64 game runs slow WHEN using Jabo's D3D 6 1.5
I'll try now 1964

[Anchel]

There's no doubt. There's something in Jabo's my PC doesn't like :P
It works as bad in 1964 :cry: