Interesting debate on existance of god, worth a read

**sk8bloke22** · December 18th, 2001, 18:10

found this well good and balanced arguement talking about how the universe came to existance (basically evolutionists vs creationalists), which in turn gives 2 convincing arguements against/for a god. i suggest u guys read urself. both arguements are bloody long but r in sections so its easy to skim the debate to get a good idea about wat both guys are saying.

http://www.geocities.com/evoatheism/...ladingish.html

personally i dont believe theres a god, the same site gives some pretty good evidence why. for a quick link:

http://www.geocities.com/evoatheism/

i remember almost a year ago when there was a similar debate on emutalk, so i thought it would be a good idea to bring it up again. interesting to see wat other ppls views are.

**hellknight** · December 18th, 2001, 18:13

no one knows if there is a god or not the only god I know is

**sk8bloke22** · December 18th, 2001, 18:28

thats pretty much wat i see. as wheneva u are presented an axium or truth is becomes bloody difficult to prove either ways. but u can still argue one way or the other as the issue pretty much interfers with everything, most particularly the origins of own creation.

**Macca** · December 18th, 2001, 23:44

aye, there was like a 25 page topic a couple of months ago on this with an article about a kid and a professor

**The Shadow** · December 19th, 2001, 07:23

Yeah, I recall that thread on the old message board. It was a story of how a college student presented a case for creation's side before an evolutistion professor. Azimer started it, it was a hot topic for a while as I recall.

**sytaylor** · December 19th, 2001, 11:01

Originally posted by The Shadow
Yeah, I recall that thread on the old message board. It was a story of how a college student presented a case for creation's side before an evolutistion professor. Azimer started it, it was a hot topic for a while as I recall.

/me peeps, ive been in so many of those debates now i can't rememebr them all... i just notice a trend... those who will believe in god no matter what you say, always find some evidence to support them because of the very fact of believeing in something ill falable presents what i like to call a "circle argument"... wherin the arugee (word?) believes something is because its all powerful and because its all powerful it is, so how cant it be?

personally i believe the realistic evidence of an all powerful being is too sketchy to believe, and you can proove evolution with phisical fossils. From that what i can draw concusion to is that the god of the bible and indeed most religions have been created by man to explain existance. I don't need an explanation, i'm happy saying "i just plain don't know", but what i refuse to do is put my faith in something i strongly believe was created by the imagination of mankind. I have made my points many times against creationalism, and even had a topic deleted from what is quite a respectable message board because i presume some of the more religious mods didn't like my logic, but thats fine, im not out to convert anyone... if people wanna listen i have a lot to say

**Raging Fuel** · December 19th, 2001, 12:17

I personally don't really believe in either side. I have a feeling that there is some sort of all powerful being, but even if 'he' does exist, it probably isn't anything like the way 'he' exists in religion.

**RPGlover12** · December 19th, 2001, 12:20

how do u guys dont believe in god
of course there is a god
only one god(in muslim my reliegon)called : allah
and three gods in christian called: father ,son and the holy ghost
and other reliegons dunno what they call him
and if there wasn't a god
1st then who created this whole universe
2nd how all those reliegon came to earth
3rd how we (muslims) and all muslims say "la elah ela allah mohamed rasol allah "
and this means
"there is no god except allah and muhammed is his prophet "
can u guys proof that there is no god
of course there is a god
any body that have any reliegon believe in go d
and how muslims believe that there is a god that everybody should worship or must worship
all muslims and other reliegons
so prove me that am wrong
if u want any answers that there is allah or god please tell me and i will explain
ps am a muslim

**Zero** · December 19th, 2001, 13:16

Let me put it down frankly nobody cares if ther's a god everybody just wants whats best for himself IMO.

**Slougi** · December 19th, 2001, 13:25

Officially I am a muslim too, but I believe in sort of the same thing as Raging Fuel.
Sytailor: well, evolution is a fact but how evolution works is not. I know many people who believe that god controls evolution. Personally I don't think so but you know... Just leave em a lone and they're happy.

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