Universal Model Converter Development (Melee models) progress and discussion

[Tcll]

heh... indeed
I've even got hype

and yea...
not much was known about melee's format...
but the way to figure it out isn't so obvious as brawl's MDL0 format >_>

I'm glad I put a hold on this to learn about brawl's format, or I prbly wouldn't even be this far...

[Tcll]

good news guys
I may soon have another alpha release for my converter

meaning you should simply be able to convert to what the images in the OP showd

although when I made those images,
they were done with manual conversion after getting an error with my obj plugin...

now the obj plugin actually works as it should, but I don't have the GUI implemented yet... heh
and it's only known for global vector conversion... havn't tested the local vector conversion yet...
but that'll happen when I get the mdl0 plugin working with the new TMP format

[Lukahn]

That's soooo rape.

Back to work on learning into this tonight. =D



So far what I have.
It that sufficient for doing what you did to your pikachu ? (just for the exemple lol)

And sooooo now. I have to know what to do in blender. I don't know it at all.

So noob in this domain, sry XD.

[Tcll]

well first off, I'd reccomend getting blender 2.58
(all they're doing is cleaning up the code)
the GUI is alot better for one
and there's just so many things that've been UD'd on it that you may as well throw 2.49 away

still anyways...

if you're a good 3DS user, why not edit the verts in 3DS and use blender as a tool for conversion...

although my script for exporting the vert data isn't exactly accurate as I don't have the right multiplier set...
meaning some models may not work...


and yea, that's legit for a noobish attempt at the format
are you actually going through the file to the verts?? (not in a hex editor)


OT:
I see you have 010 editor
the program that only worked 30 days no matter what I did to it >:O

that's why I got HexEdit...
btw, Andrew's new HexEdit version will support hex highlighting in multiple colors,
and will also highlight based on the template

[Lukahn]

Hum, well yeah that was just a version someone had at work, so I'll go on and take the new blender.^^

Then, i just followed the tutorial Milun made, on his website, nothing great thought, I don't know where the second part (the face data, if I remember) ends. So his program do not work on this, because I don't give it the right data.

I work on PlPkNr ( player pikachu normal)

Then again xD, I didn't put to much time in it, I just found it and give it a try, nothing more.

For 010 editor, it was because it could execute the script I found on the other topic, DATTemplate, which I found useful, as I was able to found the vertice hex in the file.
I'll give the other a try thought.

And also, I'ms THE perfect noob huh, this is my first attempt in 3D modeling either.

[Tcll]

meh... my converter overtops his old programs...

he has sadly seemed to leave the melee hacking team and go onto game development...

I actually came from game development to here to learn about more for game development...
and it sure has helped out

anyways...

if you'll wait, I should have another alpha release of my converter before the week ends
you can take a look at how my scripts work and all, if you know Python...

and umm... also
don't forget, I have my own DAT template I made for HexEdit...

it'll show you more of the structure, where as 010 shows you more of the locations...

I'm on my wii atm, so just search for 'Tcll DAT template' on google, and look for my git
gist.git-hub.com or something like that

[Lukahn]

ah ah KK, no offense xD, I just didn't know how to use it.

I'll wait 'til then and concentrate on understand the structure of the DAT file more.

I don't know Python, but I can profit of the occasion to have a look at it. =D
There's an expression in french which says "c'est l'occasion qui fait le larron", xD.

I'll also look into your template.

Anyway, thanks a lot for be batient with me and help with that.

PS : I have some experience in game development. For school, we have made a 2D engine for the XBOX360 using XNA with some friends.
Unfortunatly, I don't have the source, but if I can help you with something, just say it.^^

[Tcll]

meh... I've just decided to delve right into 3D...
and blender was the best choice for that...

I've used at least 3 or 4 autodesk softwares, and hated the layout and behavior of everything...

I <3 blender because you barely ever use the GUI...
(except for setting small numbers and that (like weights))

all the modelling and stuff is done with the KBd...

the only thing that's a pain is memorizing the key commands...

but once you get past that, you can model faster than ever

and yeh...
Python is perhapse the most simplest programming language...

all the other languages are extremely hard to understand...
Python dumbs it down for you
ntm, it's conveinent ^_^
you don't have to compile to worry about errors before even seeing what your program can do...

if your program has an error, it simply ends at the error...
or sometimes goes into an infinite loop while reading file data... heh

and patients...
I have enough to go around

I get my fun by helping other people. ^_^*

[Lukahn]

Speaking of simple languages, Java and C# are pretty dumb too lol.

Well for blender, I'ww just rely to you when I'll be stuck xDDD

[Tcll]

Speaking of simple languages, Java and C# are pretty dumb too lol.

Well for blender, I'ww just rely to you when I'll be stuck xDDD

well, actually...
I've found C# to be a little more complicated that java,
which are still more complicated than C++

I'm able to read C++ alot better than C# or Java

and that's KK