PS3 pwns all

[t0rek]

The brand

There was a time when 'Nintendo' was synonomous with console gaming, but times have changed and 'PlayStation' has taken that throne. Microsoft made some strides in that department with the XBOX, but Sony, on the global scale, still holds the chains. Selling over 100 million machines twice is an amazing feat for any console developer. Do NOT underestimate the power of a brand name.

The competition

The PS2 OUTSOLD the XBOX360 six out of the seven months since its launch. 'Nuff said . The PS2 is 6 YEARS old... it has consistently outsold this so-called 'next-gen' console. The 360's flagship titles will almost all be delivered in equal or better quality on the PS3, many of them right at launch. Not to mention all the games only available to the PlayStation... Metal Gear, Final Fantasy (*drool), Devil May Cry, Virtua Fighter, Gran Turismo...

OK saying that you are going just because the brand is just stupid, it's like "hey let's drink a lot of Coca Cola because is the most popular and best selling soda around the world". Nno matter how many consoles they have sold, X-BOX came some time after PS2, and people trusted PS2 because part of the sucess of PS1. XBox was new to the masses...

The samurai

Japan. Land of the video games. The original XBOX did fine in North America and Europe, but it was an utter failure in Japan. The XBOX 360 continues to struggle in the land of the rising sun. What kind of launch party has consoles left over? Not a fuckin' PLAYSTATION launch party, not in Japan anyway, hell no. An army of squinty eyed, fanatically dressed, Japanese gamers will line up for DAYS in anticipation for PS3 launch.

The samurai? please... "oh the powerful samurai, the oh american stuff is bad, anime is better than anything, otaku for life..." blah blah. Wii might sell better than PS3 in your "samurai" Japan, only 80 000 PS3 for Japan? they will be hell more expensive then, and people will buy the Wii instead there

The ray of blue

Blu-Ray will make a difference. It may fail as a movie format, but the amount of space available for software developers to use will allow for huge enviroments with amazing detail. Microsoft can compete for awhile with fancy compression techniques, but in the end, the extra space in Blu-Ray discs will hold some of the greatest, most epic scenes you've ever witnessed. Believe it. When developers start combining the Blu-Ray medium and the Cell processors to their fullest potential, games will have reached a new level of awesomeness and the PS3 by that time will no longer be $500.

Fancy compression? Anyone who says that is just an ignorant. There's no point in using fully uncompressed textures. I already discussed this but I'm gonna say it again, the developers will be like "Yarr, we did it, we filled a 25 Gb drive with fully uncompressed textures that won't be noticed by human eye while playing, and fully HD videos" You will be whining: "but CGI videos makes a game cool, that's very important" Guess what? CGI doesn't make a game good, a good gameplay does that... Just imagine a game with the gameplay of Superman 64 with full HD CGI videos

The internetzorz

Free online. This is something I heartely admire. In the age of successful subscription based MMORPGS, Sony continues to deliver free online. I have said it countless times, I will not pay for a game I've already bought. When I boot that shit up, it better damnwell give me the whole of its existence without me pulling out my credit card. If anything, this tells fans of PlayStation, " Here you go guys, have fun". What a pat on the back. It almost makes a tear run down my face.

Yeah free, yeah right. They will charge you for every GT HD track and car. What stop them for let's say, charge you for every fighting character in a game, or more weapons in a FPS, etc...

Don't forget that controllers batteries are like Ipods, they are sealed inside them, if the battery life is over (if doesn't explode) you will have to buy a new controller.

Don't forget that Sony may go bankrupt.

Another fact why PS2 was so popular? I'll tell you why. The same reason as PS1: piracy. In USA is less common, but for example, everyone here in not rich countries (ask WhiteX) knows that a PS2 owner has 99.9% of their games pirated an their console modded. A lot of people buyed a PS1 instead of a N64, and a PS2 instead of a gamecube because of this, you can get games cheaper.

Of course you won't gain access to the on-line game services if you mod your console, but a lot of people doesn't care about and make the sacrifice

If the Blu Ray format is not successful no one would like to buy a Blu Ray burner and then no piracy

And finally, Sony sucks, and that's the true...

 

[tye stik]

Damn Sony fanboy. You're pretty much just spewing nonsense. You can't give credit to ANYTHING but Sony's PS3 and Sony. See the Light, dude, they're MILKING you for money...

...As I wrote, your Sony love is clouding your view. The world isn't just black and white. Grow up, travel the world and see if it with your own eyes.

Ha. Your pride is clouding your view, son. Don't talk to me about black and white, you're the one who wont give Sony a second glance. You don't see me putting Wii or XBox down with much ferver do you? Each of the next gen consoles have their pros and cons in my opinion.

Grow up you say? Let me tell you something, I've seen more of what the world has to offer than you gramps, I'm sure of it. Maybe if you'd travel the world you would realize that preconceptions are nonesense and that most of what you've thought up in your computer room dosen't make a tiny bit of difference to the average, retarded, brought-up-on-television, apethetic, and lethargic consumer. They'll see Sony in shiny latex doing a pole dance and stick a 20 in her panties.

I never said that the PS3 will be successful or a good deal. What I said was that the machine will be amazing. So stop attacking points that I never made... I won't buy a PS3, perhaps most people wont... but the PS3 will pwn as a console if only because it expands on what technology is humanly possible to create.

YOU, sir, need to open up a bit and love the machine, not the man. The 'man' in this instance meaning Sony.

Fancy compression? Anyone who says that is just an ignorant. There's no point in using fully uncompressed textures.

I'm sure that, in the future, even with compression 25GB wont be hard to fill. Imagine enviroments so big that it will bogle the mind... so detailed that the bogled mind recesses itself into madness and is lifted unto a higher plain of existence.

 

[t0rek]

I'm sure that, in the future, even with compression 25GB wont be hard to fill. Imagine enviroments so big that it will bogle the mind... so detailed that the bogled mind recesses itself into madness and is lifted unto a higher plain of existence.

So you smoked weed again ah? keep dreaming...

 

[tye stik]

So you smoked weed again ah? keep dreaming...

This is the kind of misconception that gets thrown around by uneducated miscreants and exactly what inteligent people should seek to eliminate.

Edit: Uh, the whole 'higher plain of existance' thing, I see why you'd attribute that to hippy banter. I think of it more as 'descriptive writting".

 

[t0rek]

Even when PS3 is very powerful, the graphics description you made won't be available until 2 (maybe 1 who knows) more generations of future consoles.

BTW the miscreant adjective says a lot of you. You mean that if I don't believe that PS3 will bring that kind of graphics I'm miscreant (villian or heretic)? That means that your PS3 arguments are a kind of religion or dogma

 

[ScottJC]

tye stik the size of environments on the screen has nothing to do with space, World of Warcraft anyone? Dvd sized game, worlds environment is MASSIVE and practically never requires a loading screen, why is that exactly? The PC has no blue ray drive I wonder why that is.

As for the brand, that won't save sony's high launch price... I for one couldn't care less about any brand I just want whats good now... quite frankly I love my PS2 but I don't limit myself to loving one brand like you. Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft its all money for them. There is no point being loyal to one company.

My choices example, Snes -> n64 -> dreamcast -> playstation 2 - > ??? (Probably Wii)

 

[Doomulation]

Ha. Your pride is clouding your view, son. Don't talk to me about black and white, you're the one who wont give Sony a second glance. You don't see me putting Wii or XBox down with much ferver do you? Each of the next gen consoles have their pros and cons in my opinion.

Grow up you say? Let me tell you something, I've seen more of what the world has to offer than you gramps, I'm sure of it. Maybe if you'd travel the world you would realize that preconceptions are nonesense and that most of what you've thought up in your computer room dosen't make a tiny bit of difference to the average, retarded, brought-up-on-television, apethetic, and lethargic consumer. They'll see Sony in shiny latex doing a pole dance and stick a 20 in her panties.

I never said that the PS3 will be successful or a good deal. What I said was that the machine will be amazing. So stop attacking points that I never made... I won't buy a PS3, perhaps most people wont... but the PS3 will pwn as a console if only because it expands on what technology is humanly possible to create.

YOU, sir, need to open up a bit and love the machine, not the man. The 'man' in this instance meaning Sony.



I'm sure that, in the future, even with compression 25GB wont be hard to fill. Imagine enviroments so big that it will bogle the mind... so detailed that the bogled mind recesses itself into madness and is lifted unto a higher plain of existence.

All I see from you is that you keep trying to push Sony into our heads with things like the PS3 is cool or Sony is a great company. Well, to tell the truth, they're not. I see that every console has flaws, and the one with the least flaws right now, is the Revolution. The PS3 is a big pile of junk slapped together. Undoubtedly, it will be better in the future, but the future is not now.

You have no idea what I have seen or know, and you should not make assumptions. The whole thing about a big brand is big nonsense, which implies that you don't know what you're writing or trying to tell us.

 

[tye stik]

tye stik the size of environments on the screen has nothing to do with space, World of Warcraft anyone? Dvd sized game, worlds environment is MASSIVE and practically never requires a loading screen, why is that exactly? The PC has no blue ray drive I wonder why that is.

As for the brand, that won't save sony's high launch price... I for one couldn't care less about any brand I just want whats good now... quite frankly I love my PS2 but I don't limit myself to loving one brand like you. Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft its all money for them. There is no point being loyal to one company.

My choices example, Snes -> n64 -> dreamcast -> playstation 2 - > ??? (Probably Wii)

ScottJC, you make a valid point about WoW and its huge dimensions. I'm sure that there has to be a reason for implementing a new disc standard though. They wouldn't spend money on creating the technology for it if they could use regular DVDs instead.

I don't limit myself to 'loving one brand'. If you noticed, I'm the Super Nintendo Wizard... these are my top 4 consoles. Notice Nintendo is at the top and Sega takes up 2 spots.

1. Super Nintendo
2. Playstation 1 & 2 (this counts as one because of backwards compatibility)
3. Dreamcast
4. Genesis

To me, PS3 is just another 'update' to the PlayStation legacy. Almost like buying a better video card for my computer. Its likely that I'll still play some of my PS1 games on the PS3 if I ever buy one. As I've said before, I'll probably be buying a Wii first.

I'm an advocate against globo-corporate mega companies, I just enjoy defending the underdog. You guys have so much hatred for Sony, its kind of funny.

You have no idea what I have seen or know, and you should not make assumptions. The whole thing about a big brand is big nonsense, which implies that you don't know what you're writing or trying to tell us.

You have no idea what I have seen or know, so why are you telling me to grow up and see the world? A big brand backing a product gives the product that much more credibility and potential. If WorkingMan Inc. came out with a console that was beastley powerful and ghetto cheap, would you give 2 shits about it? The average consumer wont, and niether will software developers. They want to see movers and shakers behind their machines, not noname jackasses.

 

[ScottJC]

Having said that, Since i'm kinda a guy that has to own all consoles i'll probably end up with a PS3 anyway because I will want Kingdom Hearts 3 and Final Fantasy 13 when they come out. I'm pretty sure the point of the bluray is to give more space for higher res textures (for hdtvs) but new compression technology came out so bluray may not be worthwhile, I dunno.

The Xbox360 is getting a HD-DVD drive so its kinda like betamax vs vhs all over again. edit: I have just put my deposit down for my own personal Nintendo Wii, going to grab a copy of zelda with it. Maybe Super mario galaxy after new years.

 

[Doomulation]

You have no idea what I have seen or know, so why are you telling me to grow up and see the world? A big brand backing a product gives the product that much more credibility and potential. If WorkingMan Inc. came out with a console that was beastley powerful and ghetto cheap, would you give 2 shits about it? The average consumer wont, and niether will software developers. They want to see movers and shakers behind their machines, not noname jackasses.

I told you because you keep repeating silly stuff like big brands, which isn't the case why Sony has been successful, nor will it be a big factor in the coming wars.
And yes, I would get that WorkingMan Inc product if it was as you said. The key to the whole is marketing. If I don't know it exists, then I wouldn't buy it naturally.

About the whole Blu-ray thing... Sony just wants to promote their new technology. Blu-ray and HD-DVD are primarily designed for HD movies in mind because they don't want to compress 'em (the movies) too much.

Here's something more to chew on:
PS3 Ridge Racer: 9 minutes too long? - Joystiq

Ridge Racer 7 requires 5 GB for the optional install and it takes 9 minutes and 46 seconds to install. 4 of those and your 20 GB HDD is filled up!

 

[Clements]

Found an interesting technical article with a comparison of the PS3 and Xbox360 in the context of how suited they are for game development.

The blogger argues that the Xbox360 is in fact better suited to delivering games with it's three general purpose CPUs and the stronger 'beyond SM3.0 spec' Xenos GPU than the PS3's specialised Cell with 1 general core with 7 SPEs and the G71-based RSX.

After much technical analysis, he concludes:

"When you break down the numbers, Xbox 360 has provably more performance than PS3. Keep in mind that Sony has a track record of over promising and under delivering on technical performance. The truth is that both systems pack a lot of power for high definition games and entertainment.

However, hardware performance, while important, is only a third of the puzzle. Xbox 360 is a fusion of hardware, software and services. Without the software and services to power it, even the most powerful hardware becomes inconsequential. Xbox 360 games—by leveraging cutting-edge hardware, software, and services—will outperform the PlayStation 3."

Read the full article here:

Playstation 3 Vs XBox 360 | ITVidya.com

 

[matthew]

For me its about the games and at the moment nothing next gen interests me besides the Nintendo Wii which is technically still current gen.
In any case I still have a choice between xbox360 and ps3 and at the moment no game has attracted me to either console just yet.
I plan to only buy one main console this time last time I bought all three due to Sega leaving me in the lurch .
However this time I'll wait until the other consoles are in full swing with a good amount of games before I choose because its all about the games and if the games don't appeal to me then theres no point buying.
I was one of the only people around my area that had a Sega Saturn

 

[Borisz]

I heard that Gears of War is better then all of the ps3 launch lineup, can anyone confirm it?

 

[Doomulation]

It's time! For those of you who would LOVE to see the PS3 whacked and destroyed, then this is the place: SmashMyPs3.com // Screw the Sony PlayStation 3
Of course, there's also the Xbox 360: SmashMyXBox.com // Death to the Xbox 360! (Direct link to extended version since links on the homepage doesn't work: PlanetBoredom.Net // Videos - SmashOurStuff.com - Smash My XBox 360 - Extended)
And if you want, the revolution: SmashMyWii.com // What was Nintendo thinking? Wii?

 

[I am me]

oHHH my head hurts after reading all of this its friday and I had nithing better to do will sony even offer insurance for there console I mean how ever bought it definetly deserves insurance right?...

 

[Doomulation]

I'm sure there is some sort of insurance. I would have to guess that many countries have (or at least some? - I have no idea how US laws are on this) laws that protects consumers from faulty products for a limited period. Then there are shops that sells insurance and extended insurance as well.

 

[I am me]

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well ok my older brother is planing on possible buying one well I don't care how he wastes his money do you think I should stop him if he dose consider buying one? but that dose'nt mean were gona get Wii

 

[Doomulation]

Personally? Yeah. I always stab at those that I hear try to buy a PS3. But in the end, it is his choice, so if you can't convince him, then it's out of your hands.
But you COULD point him to a few sites with information... maybe "sway" his view on the PS3.

 

[I am me]

Well only time will tell and also it wiill also tell when ii am gettiing a Wii

QUiiET!! iill eat when I want to! also can someone make this on the smiley list if you wana make it better I don't give a skyte

 

[Shin_Gouki]

whoha i read about PS3 on Linux its, so damn exciting!
(PS3Linux) Open Platform for PS3 - site open with instructions - Page 4 - NeoGAF
Just because of this feature i must have such a nice toy ^^
wbr Shin Gouki