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    Plugins? *(and some tips for Dolphin dev.)

    Ok, are there any plugins from other emulators that are compatable?
    I've seen some pretty complex, yet fast plugins for UltraHLE etc.

    Well, you guys that are developing plugins, one thing to add in: Frame Skip
    Before, using frame skip enabled, I got N64 emulators to operate almost or at full speed, with still great animation on screen! It was amazing, I couldn't even tell it was skipping frames, just that tiny bit of processing made a huge dif.!

    Oh, and guess what machine I had when I emulated N64!
    A P2 266mhz machine with something like 48mb ram and an integrated ATI Rage graphics card (not to mention a 3gb hard drive)!
    Hell yeah, you could only dream of doing that now, stuff has become soo complex my old PC probably couldn't even boot with all that on it!

    Well, if you guys think it can't be done on some 2GHz machine now, guess again! If an N64 could be emulated on my old PC, it can be done!
    What we need is some in depth programming, maybe you guys should try messing with some slow machines when making graphics cards...it may improve your progress!



    Well, Good luck!
    *oh, and when I finish learning ASM i'll be sure to help out!


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    whts asm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weapon X
    whts asm?
    Somekind of coding stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentertainme
    Ok, are there any plugins from other emulators that are compatable?
    I've seen some pretty complex, yet fast plugins for UltraHLE etc.

    Well, you guys that are developing plugins, one thing to add in: Frame Skip
    Before, using frame skip enabled, I got N64 emulators to operate almost or at full speed, with still great animation on screen! It was amazing, I couldn't even tell it was skipping frames, just that tiny bit of processing made a huge dif.!

    Oh, and guess what machine I had when I emulated N64!
    A P2 266mhz machine with something like 48mb ram and an integrated ATI Rage graphics card (not to mention a 3gb hard drive)!
    Hell yeah, you could only dream of doing that now, stuff has become soo complex my old PC probably couldn't even boot with all that on it!

    Well, if you guys think it can't be done on some 2GHz machine now, guess again! If an N64 could be emulated on my old PC, it can be done!
    What we need is some in depth programming, maybe you guys should try messing with some slow machines when making graphics cards...it may improve your progress!

    Well, Good luck!
    *oh, and when I finish learning ASM i'll be sure to help out!
    hrhr, mr superclever is here
    no, this is not a allegation...

    You might be right with the speed-stuff... BUT don't forget that there were tons of improvements in N64 Emulation (woops, wrong topic ;þ) since uhle and better compatibility sometimes means much more code (workarounds and so on) -> more stuff to execute, slower speed.
    (hmmm, how did you get super mario 64 running on a 266mmx machine... still impressive...)
    Ah, and i don't think that you will be able to run any GC-game on a 266mmx since you need dx9-support (dx8 is cool for coding, but not cool enough for gc emulation) and......... oh my god, a gffx on a p2mmx-machine would be simply crazy (does it have an agp already?!...)

    I will stop talking for now since it seems that you know what you are talking about ;D
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    Ok, to explain...
    Yes I got many games to run on my OLD pc, more that just Mario 64...I also got Mario Kart etc...you know!

    Yes, I know GC will never run on a machine like that...I was refering to my newer PC whioch is 2 GHz! Many believe it can't be done that you need 100% top-of-the-line stuff to run it! (like 3.2ghz etc...)

    And ASM is the abrieviation for assembly, which is known to run 20 times faster than many of todays languages. In other words, assmembly is basic and complex at the same time...assembly is often the base of many languages, what I mean is some languages are actually a build off assembly! Asssembly is also thge most compatable of all languages, it can be compiled (written) to run in windows, dos, and almost any platform that has a processor! The reason why assembly is not common in windows is because other languages have more complex commands to do things and have been simplified for writing in them!

    I would like to learn C++ so I could mess around with emulation, but I don't have good learining tools...I'm trying to slowly learn ASM so I can do more, I actually thought it would be cool to try to write an operating system with some other people...it's still way too much work, but I think it may be worth the effort!

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    About the plugins, since there is no general specs available (like the zilmar's specs on N64 emus), no plugins will work with other emus (dolwin ones on dolphin ect.). Also, as I and ector said it multiple time, on the next release, the plugin specs for dolwin will be available for anyone wanting to do plugins for it. Just wait.

    And about what you said about N64 emus on slow PC (i.e P233 voodoo 3) , I already talked about that to ector, the GC specs are WAY higher then N64 and are using way more complex instructions and higher Hardware specs. And since the GC is using a PowerPC (Gekko) CPU, it's even harder/more complex to emulate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knuckles
    About the plugins, since there is no general specs available (like the zilmar's specs on N64 emus), no plugins will work with other emus (dolwin ones on dolphin ect.). Also, as I and ector said it multiple time, on the next release, the plugin specs for dolwin will be available for anyone wanting to do plugins for it. Just wait.

    And about what you said about N64 emus on slow PC (i.e P233 voodoo 3) , I already talked about that to ector, the GC specs are WAY higher then N64 and are using way more complex instructions and higher Hardware specs. And since the GC is using a PowerPC (Gekko) CPU, it's even harder/more complex to emulate.
    Totally agree to you...
    Finally I think there's a new, who to destroy the greatest GC emu and nerv the devs team and I think these guy is one of these... why always all think, they can do it better & why they don't show their knowledge and so on...
    But if the specs are released, we will see what these great cracks will release or wheather they are crying for new plugins.. that's the way I think they do!
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    You little b!tch...
    Just cuz I speak my mind you start bashing me!
    I happen to be a programmer too, I just don't know C++ and you guys don't want any more dvs anyways so how the hell can I help out...all I can do is puch you guys into creating ideas that members here come up with!
    I made stuff in PHP, it's spread quite a bit allover and I got requests from some russians to make it multi-lingual...you know what I did, I took the time to find a translator, and translate what they said about it and take their stuff to make an all new copy of it. yeah, don't start bashing people until you really know them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentertainme
    You little b!tch...
    Just cuz I speak my mind you start bashing me!
    I happen to be a programmer too, I just don't know C++ and you guys don't want any more dvs anyways so how the hell can I help out...all I can do is puch you guys into creating ideas that members here come up with!
    I made stuff in PHP, it's spread quite a bit allover and I got requests from some russians to make it multi-lingual...you know what I did, I took the time to find a translator, and translate what they said about it and take their stuff to make an all new copy of it. yeah, don't start bashing people until you really know them!
    WTF are you talking about
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    he said that to masterPHW check above hes post
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