OMG, an Athlon XP overclocked to 3 ghz!!!

[Waan2k]

yeah runs fine at 12.5x166 Ive never tryed 14x166 for 2324mhz or 13. So would I have to raise the vcore a bit for this. how much does it increase the heat?.

My computer runs at about 45 idle and 52 load

 

[Frony]

i'm new, but that is a buetifull machine

:bunny: I know my comp. isn't that bad but how can i find out the tech. specs.? I'll edit this and post them when I learn how :evil:

 

[Jigga0o7]

yeah runs fine at 12.5x166 Ive never tryed 14x166 for 2324mhz or 13. So would I have to raise the vcore a bit for this. how much does it increase the heat?.

My computer runs at about 45 idle and 52 load

1.7v-1.75v would do it.

You're okay as long as load temps don't exceed 60ish C. Chips don't die till 85C but I advise you stop pushing when it hits 60 ish, and add more cooling weither it be a better heatsink or case fans with a higher flow rate.

 

[Jigga0o7]

:bunny: I know my comp. isn't that bad but how can i find out the tech. specs.? I'll edit this and post them when I learn how :evil:

What you're going to want to do is this.

http://www.cpuid.com/download/cpu-z-123.zip

download that, extract it and run it. It'll tell you what processor you have and how many mhz it has, along with other information such as FSB, L1/L2 cache, Ram Timings, Multiplier, Vcore, and other information such as what motherboard you have and what type of ram you have *pc100, pc133, pc2100, pc2400, pc2700, pc3000, pc3200, pc3500, pc3700, pc4000, pc4200, or pc4400*.

As for video card, all you need to do is right click on your desktop > Properties > Settings > Then you will see a screen such as this.

In this case, the video card is the nVidia Quadro 4. Look in the same place to see your card maker and type.

If theres anything you want to know just ask.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

I think that if I had a higher FSB I'ld get better scores and framerate in apps and games

Often, the only 3D title that benefits with higher FSB clock speeds is 3D Mark
and some of the latest games.

The reason is, that 3D Mark 2001 SE, 3D Mark 2003, DirectX 8.1 and DirectX 9 3D titles use a lot of bandwidth.

 

[cooliscool]

Often, the only 3D title that benefits with higher FSB clock speeds is 3D Mark
and some of the latest games.

The reason is, that 3D Mark 2001 SE, 3D Mark 2003, DirectX 8.1 and DirectX 9 3D titles use a lot of bandwidth.

... It's always a joy to read your posts. :yucky:

 

[Waan2k]

hi again Jigga0o7

With overclocking my 2500xp Barton, could I do 11x200 with my 2100 dual ram, how much would I have to raise the v core to allow it to do that?

thx for the quick replys too btw

 

[-Shadow-]

hi again Jigga0o7

With overclocking my 2500xp Barton, could I do 11x200 with my 2100 dual ram, how much would I have to raise the v core to allow it to do that?

thx for the quick replys too btw

Your RAM would get a headache At least if you don't have a Nforce Mobo with asynchronous FSB/RAM clocks . And now the question of the vcore : Just test it ! Set the clock a lil' bit higher and then test if its running stable ( with PC Mark , games , prime95 etc. ) , if it's not running stable , set the Vcore a little bit higher , then test again . Do this until you have your desired clock rate or if you reached your max Vcore .

... It's always a joy to read your posts.

Hell yeah

 

[Jigga0o7]

hi again Jigga0o7

With overclocking my 2500xp Barton, could I do 11x200 with my 2100 dual ram, how much would I have to raise the v core to allow it to do that?

thx for the quick replys too btw

Depends. When you're running the stock 166fsb of your cpu, is your ram stable? If so, you can run the 6:5 multiplier so that your ram stays at 166 and your fsb goes to 200. So you would have 2.2ghz with 200fsb but the memory bandwidth will be lacking a little bit, i'm guessing about 2800mb/s effective, depending on your timings.

And if you have a good chip you won't have to raise vcore at all for 2.2ghz. And if you do, just raise it to 1.7 since the heat will not raise much since your cpu runs 1.65v stock.

And here goes some of my 3dmark 2k1 runs.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7874474
20751 points
2.56ghz 420/340 clocks on the 9800NP 232fsb 1:1 2-2-2-6

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7291031
20105 points
2.43ghz 453/333 clocks on the 9800NP 221fsb 1:1 2-2-2-6

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7920818
24088 points
2.625ghz 550/616 clocks on the x800pro 238fsb 1:1 2-2-2-6

 

[Waan2k]

yeah 166 is the stock, I guess the ram is fine,I got it dual channeling so not sure.

So for 2200 MHz what do I need to change in my bios settings to get this

So I change the ram timing to 6:5 or something and change the Softclock to 11x200 FSB?

thx for all the replys btw

 

[Sharon White]

Just out of interest, could it not be reasonable that the law of physics would be different as the temperature approaches absolute zero.

Temperature is the attribute of the amount of energy of matter, having close to no energy is not a natural state of matter.

Could it not be possibility that the limiting factors of the overclocking frequency be reduced beyond the (expected, unproven) value that people believe to be the case.

After all, physics is imperical, the absolute zero state of matter has not been observed.

Sharon

 

[Jigga0o7]

Very true, many have come close to 0 kelvin but have never quite made it. I myself have never had the opporitunity to experiment with anything even close to -274C so theres not really much I can go off of other than what other people have done.

Hypothetically, lets say someone has a pentium 4 3.0C and cooling for -274C. They want to go for 7Ghz and lets just say thats within the limits of the cpu. The amount of voltage for such an overclock would be in the range of 3-3.5 volts, which in itself would kill the processor.

Or we can look on it on a lower overclock. 3.0C at 5ghz. Lets say the processor runs -150C full load on 1.95v. The processor will die. Not having anything to do with heat, but electric migration. The transistors of the chip wouldn't be able to stand such stress for longer than 20 or so minutes, then its lights out.

 

[Waan2k]

Jigga0o7 I'm not to sure I'll be able to go to 14x166 I have not tryed. But say I got the CPU atm at 12.5x166.

If I Increase the FSB like to 176 or something, what ram settings would I have to set with my 2100 ram to get it to work well with the OC ?

 

[Jigga0o7]

Jigga0o7 I'm not to sure I'll be able to go to 14x166 I have not tryed. But say I got the CPU atm at 12.5x166.

If I Increase the FSB like to 176 or something, what ram settings would I have to set with my 2100 ram to get it to work well with the OC ?

Well what timings do you have right now? 176mhz is kinda high for pc2100. My pc2700 barely made it to 190mhz 2-2-2-6.

 

[jdsony]

This is an interesting thread. I just recently got a new NFORCE 2 motherboard to replace my aging SDRAM board and it's been a huge performance increase but I have only dabled with the overclocking options. I'm not use to all the options the nforce boards have, I'm use to just multiplier and fsb settings to play with and my old board couldn't change either once I installed a 266mhz fsb processor.

Right now my specs.

Athlon XP 2000+
Ati Radeon 9800 Pro
512 DDR 2100/3200 Dual Channel
2x 80gb Seagate Drives

My 1 stick of DDR 2100 is holding me back a bit for overclocking but I got it for free so it's not bad for now.

3D MARK 2001

AMD Athlon XP 2000+ Radeon 8500 le @ 299.25/310.50 (PC133) - 7933

AMD Athlon XP 2000+ Radeon 9800 Pro @ stock (PC133) - 10098

AMD Athlon XP 2000+ Radeon 9800 Pro @ stock (DDR2100) - 12643


3D MARK 2003

AMD Athlon XP 2000+ Radeon 8500 le @ 299.25/310.50 (PC133) - 1275

AMD Athlon XP 2000+ Radeon 9800 Pro @ 378/338 (PC133) - 4987

Haven't yet tried 3D MARK 2003 with new board/DDR

I had in the past tried overclocking my Radeon 9800 Pro but didn't yield much if any increase in performance which is likely because of my motherboard/ram bottleneck. I have yet to overclock with my new board but I'm sure I can get another 1000 or so 3D marks once I do.

 

[Waan2k]

hi again Jigga0o7

that;s the thing I'm not sure what you mean by timing, how do I change the ram timing?

also if I change the ram timing like you said before to stay at the 2100 and raise the FSB, I could do 11x200 right?

 

[Jigga0o7]

hi again Jigga0o7

that;s the thing I'm not sure what you mean by timing, how do I change the ram timing?

also if I change the ram timing like you said before to stay at the 2100 and raise the FSB, I could do 11x200 right?

Some ppl have done it... but I really doubt you could do it without a lot of voltage, and I don't think you're in the mood to kill anything.

And to find out the timing, download the prog I posted a few posts back and follow what I said in that post.

 

[Jigga0o7]

This is the best I can do on air.

 

[Waan2k]

ok here we are I tryed 13x166 but the computer will not let me into windows.
So i thought ok maybe I should keep it at 12.5x166 and raise the fsb a little.

How far can I go with my ram you reackon guys?

here's some pics

 

[sheik124]

damn you all and your NF7s, this $hit-@$$ A7N8X-E deluxe completely begins to flip out at anything over 190 FSB, gotta get a mobile so i can shoot the multiplier to the sky