UltraHLE 2.0 - WiP [Archive]

crhylove

October 19th, 2002, 09:40

holy jesus.
this completely validates your discouragement of ohle.. :) as a matter of fact thank you.

/me is still smarting over the #emulation64 ban (which was completely pointless, no?) but hey, i'm not a grudge holder, i'll get over it.

congrats u guys, that looks bad ass.

i have a million questions that i won't ask since i read the site and am following your orders. c how nice i can b?!?

/edit WAIT THAT WASN'T A QUESTION! IT WAS JUST RHETORICAL!! /endedit

lol

LOL (again with edit) azimer rules...

Josep

October 19th, 2002, 10:28

Originally posted by 2bzy4ne1
* 2bzy4ne1 fastens his seatbelt and waits patiently :colgate:

/me unfastens 2bzy4ne1 and everyone else

let the beta-tester beggers begin!:) hehe, even though the website says not to, there will still be idiots e-mailing the hell out of them to get a beta or something;)

realogik

October 19th, 2002, 10:28

I must say, i follow the N64 emu scene since the really beginning, I mean, I was there back in '97 looking everyday on the bpoint webpage to see if there was something new about Ultra64.

The biggest news ive seen since that time was on 29th January of '99, it was for sure "UltraHLE" and the Zelda OOT screenshots showing it was running perfectly on a "Decent" computer. Next day I was buying a PII-400 with a 3DFX Voodoo 2 to run it... (hehe I know with that money I could buy 3 bran new Nintendo 64 and 3 zelda cartridge, but man, running Zelda 64 on my PC was a dream come true, im sure you know what I mean ! :D )

Today is a Great day in emulation , someone is taking back the torch that realityman and epsilon put on the side. (Espisially realityman , no offence, but you gaved us false hope) :(

Now, I probably have the same enthousiam that I had 5 years ago, when bpoint told the emulation scene that a N64 emulator was possible. ( Not a lot of people beleived him at that time )

So keep up your great work on UHLE2!

Hope to hear your progress soon !

THANKS for making my useless life less boring.

crhylove

October 19th, 2002, 11:05

oh yeah, btw 2bz, giants will be OWNED by the angels! ;)

oh yeah, and dom, "dig it out"? is it buried? (this is rhetorical again, not an actual question). i definitely dig it baby! yeah!

harb

October 19th, 2002, 11:12

"NO QUESTIONS on the project" they said..

ScottJC

October 19th, 2002, 13:07

(Espisially realityman , no offence, but you gaved us false hope)

realityman did give us false hope. *starts growling like a dog*

oh well, let on with the show...

WildSOfT

October 19th, 2002, 15:03

Yaaaahhhooooo :)

What a great news!

Stezo2k

October 19th, 2002, 15:19

wow! we love u dom :) keep up the good work :) btw the speed seems kinda slow for an emu that requires something like 300mhz

Stez

crhylove

October 19th, 2002, 15:36

LOL, stez u stinky kidder....WIP, and massive API restructure, duh!

rhy

Eddy

October 19th, 2002, 17:15

Wow im glad to hear this, real complete team and all. This is gonna be cool.

Tri-Force

October 19th, 2002, 17:20

what's with the broken link???

MaGiX

October 19th, 2002, 17:55

Jesus Christ thats beautiful. I can't believe its finally going to be updated!!!! w00t!!

/me sits down.

Cyberman

October 19th, 2002, 17:56

Originally posted by Azimer
Can I have a beta?!!! :D :D :D :D

:hehe: Geesh Sz you're not setting a good example! (snicker)
which reminds me.. I should get to work on something other than reading forums.

Cyb

Oh yeah.. hey cool.. what no list Of features so would beta testers can salivate?

Tri-Force

October 19th, 2002, 18:05

broken link broken link broken link broken link broken link broken link broken link broken link broken link broken link broken link broken link broken link broken link broken link broken link broken link. is this real or a joke?

aprentice

October 19th, 2002, 18:06

Broken pc broken pc broken pc!

Link isnt broken. :happy:

Stezo2k

October 19th, 2002, 18:17

Originally posted by crhylove
LOL, stez u stinky kidder....WIP, and massive API restructure, duh!

rhy

ah ic, hope its guna be as fast as 1964 or faster :) that would be friggin awesome :) btw nice to see ya working on this project too aprentice :) btw the link works gr8 tri-force, try another browser or something ;)

Stez

Stezo2k

October 19th, 2002, 18:19

btw is this still using HLE? Or is it just partial HLE? Either way i dont mind :) Looks like they will have to solve that Oricana bug on zelda 2 though :P

Stez

Tri-Force

October 19th, 2002, 18:24

now it tells me connection refused. WHAT THE HELL!!!

Hacktarux

October 19th, 2002, 18:25

It's still using hle and it will always use it. Without hle, ultrahle wouldn't be what it is. The goal of this project is to push hle approach as far as it can be, we know it has its limitation and that it's hard to have very high compatibility but what i can say you is that it can still be improved much :)

Tri-Force

October 19th, 2002, 18:25

someone give me another link or something because i have tried 2 browsers (net suck and IE ) and neither works. WHAT"S GOING ON HERE!!!!

Stezo2k

October 19th, 2002, 18:32

works fine in IE6 SP1 for me :)

no idea what the problem is m8

Stez

Hacktarux

October 19th, 2002, 18:32

Originally posted by Tri-Force
someone give me another link or something because i have tried 2 browsers (net suck and IE ) and neither works. WHAT"S GOING ON HERE!!!!

dunno what to say, it perfectly works for me in 4 different browsers (in windows and linux). And no there's no mirror of this site.

aprentice

October 19th, 2002, 18:40

Originally posted by MaGiX
easily faked...

lol

Tri-Force

October 19th, 2002, 18:43

well it doesn't work so it's fake isn't it. admit it. admit it. it's fake isn't it. ok i'll stop. but i wanna SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

Tri-Force

October 19th, 2002, 18:44

is there a link to a different part of the page then?

CpU MasteR

October 19th, 2002, 18:59

Originally posted by MaGiX
easily faked...

Look at the 2nd MM Screenshot, Does any plugin have the a button in the middle of the screen? BTW, you can tell Flashram is not supported yet... Look at the C Buttons ;)

Originally posted by Tri-Force
is there a link to a different part of the page then?

Try This... (http://projectultra.altimatehosting.com/uhleannounce.htm)

Eddy

October 19th, 2002, 19:00

tri force should get banned for being gay. Of course its not fake, its not like its lightknight coding it, its respectable people. If you cant see the page, go to your local library or a friends house, and check from there. If its fake, its of no importance to you, and you shouldnt be beasting, wanting to check the page.

Eddy

October 19th, 2002, 19:02

im feelin in a good mood

Eddy

October 19th, 2002, 19:02

god damn thas a team and a half

Greevy

October 19th, 2002, 19:15

Wow
This is super-duper-mega-hyper-cool.

<img src="http://server3.hypermart.net/greevy/uhleblah.JPG">

I was just feeling like posting that.
:inlove:

God I'm bored.:plain2:

Eddy

October 19th, 2002, 19:24

the days =)

cooliscool

October 19th, 2002, 19:47

Originally posted by MaGiX
easily faked...

dude.. these guys have been in the scene for a long time and have proven themselves. give em time.

Stezo2k

October 19th, 2002, 20:01

yeah, and that pic u sent looks fake due to a tiny black border at the top, also ultraHLE is suppost to give out better graphics than usual

Stez

legendj

October 19th, 2002, 20:05

Very Cooooooooooooooooooooooooooool ;D

ScottJC

October 19th, 2002, 20:10

Jeez not every new project announcment is fake goddamnit.

deekay2

October 19th, 2002, 20:34

excellent stuff, thought it was kind of strange hadn't heard anything about ultrahle since source leak.

wonder could u guys mention who is working on what part of the emu ?

Stezo2k

October 19th, 2002, 20:37

no idea but dominator is more than likely working on optimisation and also sounds like hes head of the project
Stez

RatTrap

October 19th, 2002, 20:54

:(.. i had SO many hype plans.. to bad we had to announce early..

just some tiny info:

ppl seem to be getting confused about a few things.. i've read thru all emu sites i know *phew*.. my eyes are gonna need a break in a litle while.. anyways.. most sites are getting confused about this or that.. the worst thing is confusing UltraHLE2 to any emulator released by epsilon or RM.. i know there where alot of rumours about UHLE2.0 back in the day.. i can asure you.. this whole project is based on the source of the UHLE source that was leaked some months ago..

another thing:.. the website and it's looks and the url is not permanent.. it will most probably change all together.. and even the name of the emu might change slightly :p..

we are 8 coders.. but i don't code personally on the emulator.. i've been coding a "massive coderz-paradize-a'la source forge"-ish type thing.. only it's made for closed source atm only.. and it's not open for the public.. for this crew of 7 guys.. and i was invited to make them a website and some other arrangements to support these 7 guys coding on the actual emu..

Domi asked me if i wanted in on the page (yes i did make that thing Redah :p.. i pulled it off in about 2 hours btw).. because as we see it i am part of the group.. i had no idea we where anouncing.. i had been away most of the week..

info about the project:
it started not so long after the source was out.. so you can say it's been about 4 months in development by now.. believe me.. there is A LOT that has been donne.. (if i type it all out.. it would get longer then my usual posts :p).. hehe actually.. i don't know half of what's been donne.. i know it's a whole lot though.. but since i am a busy person i can't trully keep up with these 7 guys :p..

also.. believe it or not.. i haven't tried it yet :).. i know what's generally been donne.. and i've seen many screens.. i think we might post some screens now and then in here.. if anything i have a bunch and i somewhat consider them public domain :p.. since i don't even have a beta :).. but the same rules are set of course.. no beta begging.. no screens begging.. no email spamming.. no "can i be in on the project" asking.. believe me.. we have enugh ppl in there allready..

now please make sure ppl don't make mistakes in other websites about this project.. if you see a mistake point them here or tell em how it is.. also.. plz don't bother us :p..

l8rz..

deekay2

October 19th, 2002, 20:58

Originally posted by MaGiX

Originally posted by cooliscool

Originally posted by MaGiX
easily faked...

dude.. these guys have been in the scene for a long time and have proven themselves. give em time.

Im not saying its fake im just saying it is easily faked.

Since its not faked, thats not actually saying at all :biggrin: :biggrin:

deekay2

October 19th, 2002, 21:02

Originally posted by RatTrap
:(.. i had SO many hype plans.. to bad we had to announce early..

i bet u were planning on releasing on ultrahle anniversry or something right.

...we could pretend we still pretend we dont know ;)

Stezo2k

October 19th, 2002, 21:04

Originally posted by RatTrap
:(.. i had SO many hype plans.. to bad we had to announce early..

heh we are glad u did :) UltaHLE was a legend in terms of emulation, thx for keeping it alive :)

Stez

MaGiX

October 19th, 2002, 21:06

Those screens are excellent though. Now we need someone to make a super duper excellent glide wrapper. EVoodoo is doing great though.

deekay2

October 19th, 2002, 21:09

Originally posted by MaGiX
Those screens are excellent though. Now we need someone to make a super duper excellent glide wrapper. EVoodoo is doing great though.

i think they said that they had a glide/opengl/direct3d thingy going, besides u could just use jabos

Stezo2k

October 19th, 2002, 21:13

Originally posted by MaGiX
Those screens are excellent though. Now we need someone to make a super duper excellent glide wrapper. EVoodoo is doing great though.

Theres no need for one, they are going to port the glide into directx and openGL i belive and u should have the option to choose it :) also it should support plugins soon too :) this is 2 good to be true :D

cooliscool

October 19th, 2002, 21:15

They already have zilmar plugin support done.

MaGiX

October 19th, 2002, 21:15

This is going to be extremely cool.

deekay2

October 19th, 2002, 21:22

Its definately an ambitious project, just look how long it took for jabo to get his d3d plugin to release so u can imagine if theyre working on 3 apis.

What im really interested in though is ultrahle + jabod3d now theres a force to be reckoned with ...

MaGiX

October 19th, 2002, 21:29

Exactly...and UHLE is wickedly FAST!

Lex

October 19th, 2002, 21:40

Originally posted by cooliscool
They already have zilmar plugin support done.

where did you see that?

hcl

October 19th, 2002, 21:49

i've always known this would happen one day, a new ultrahle release,
but always thought it would be by the original authors...

i wish more people would understand the concept of opensource....
(/wish there were less lamers who "abuse" it)

Hacktarux

October 19th, 2002, 21:51

to everyone: many questions you are asking are actually answered in the announcement

please also check the post that rattrap has just edited in the page3 of this thread

ScottJC

October 19th, 2002, 22:54

if its dominator as one of the authors its most likely the real deal, nuff said :D

:crazy:

Stezo2k

October 19th, 2002, 23:38

Originally posted by cooliscool
They already have zilmar plugin support done.

holy Sh!t that was friggin quick man :) this remade-emu sounds extremly promising, i mean i was satisfied with the 1st release :) and sooooo many ppl are working on it, mabie lag could help too :) hows the progression going guys? its lookin sssoooo awesome

Stez

ShadowTH

October 20th, 2002, 00:12

Back to the 1st post

OMG!
UHLE is a dream to me!
With it, it made possible to me to run Ocarina of Time on my Pentium 2 233Mhz with a 4 mega PCI 3d acelerator card! of course at 15 fps, but!
Now not having those nasty glide wrappers things it will be a dream! :-)

Tri-Force

October 20th, 2002, 02:19

ok then, can anyone extend some REAL help as far as helping me see the site and being able to bookmark it for future refrence?

Natus

October 20th, 2002, 03:46

here, place this file in your favourites folder (this is for i.e.)

rename the file to be a .url extension

gokuss4

October 20th, 2002, 04:13

Originally posted by Tri-Force
ok then, can anyone extend some REAL help as far as helping me see the site and being able to bookmark it for future refrence?

http://projectultra.altimatehosting.com/

crhylove

October 20th, 2002, 08:57

as rattrap stated, the website was not ready for primetime and was only a quick thing, that got announced before even he knew it.

it does work in mozilla 1.1 for windows, however, there are some issues:

crhylove

October 20th, 2002, 09:03

oh yeah, and if you're not using mozilla, or a derivative, well, then you're just foolish, aren't you?

(smaller/faster/stable/more virus tolerant) why not move over to the party?

iq_132

October 20th, 2002, 09:23

I don't suppose someone will add a page to tell us how the Emu is progressing?

realogik

October 20th, 2002, 09:23

1- Cause Internet Explorer do a Great job !
2- You just show us there is a glitch problem on the web site of UHLE2 annoncement, so I think this is probably not the only problem we will encounter if we install it.
3- Im a Microsoft addict ! (Sorry all you MS Hater, but no one does it better than MS, just look Windows XP, its damn stable , compatible, convivial, easy to use and setup, cant say so of Linux or any OS currently available)
4- Since Netscape get bought buy AOL, I dont want to ear it anymore(same for ICQ and Winamp)

Enough reason to stay with my good old IE ?! (By the way IE7 will be the last version of this wonderfull software, it will be slowly replaced by MSN Explorer. Good news, Bad news.. who know)

Thats it ! CYA:colgate:

iq_132

October 20th, 2002, 09:26

Start a new thread for this...

Originally posted by realogik
1- Cause Internet Explorer do a Great job !
2- You just show us there is a glitch problem on the web site of UHLE2 annoncement, so I think this is probably not the only problem we will encounter if we install it.
3- Im a Microsoft addict ! (Sorry all you MS Hater, but no one does it better than MS, just look Windows XP, its damn stable , compatible, convivial, easy to use and setup, cant say so of Linux or any OS currently available)
4- Since Netscape get bought buy AOL, I dont want to ear it anymore(same for ICQ and Winamp)

Enough reason to stay with my good old IE ?! (By the way IE7 will be the last version of this wonderfull software, it will be slowly replaced by MSN Explorer. Good news, Bad news.. who know)

Thats it ! CYA:colgate:

Anyway, back on topic...
Zilmar spec has already been added?
How goes the compatibility and general enhancements?

Lillymon

October 20th, 2002, 09:41

Or you could use Mozilla 1.2 beta (http://home.graffiti.net/lillymon/UHLE2_MZ12B.png)...

Damnit, PNGs are images too! Why can't this board show them? :plain2:

iq_132

October 20th, 2002, 09:43

Originally posted by Lillymon
Or you could use Mozilla 1.2 beta (http://home.graffiti.net/lillymon/UHLE2_MZ12B.png)...

Damnit, PNGs are images too! Why can't this board show them? :plain2:

Could be because not all browsers out there support them...
But then again, some don't support images at all.

Lillymon

October 20th, 2002, 09:51

To not support PNGs, a broswer would have to be truely ancient. I'm pretty sure even IE/Netscape 3.0 supported it, and they were released in 1996!

Oh, and reason 1 to use Mozilla: IE has screwed up PNG handling. They're a few shades too dark in IE. Mozilla is fine.

mann

October 20th, 2002, 09:54

this is a png..

cooliscool

October 20th, 2002, 10:00

Whoops, forgot to log back in as cooliscool. :P i posted that above.. i use IE 6 SP1, and PNGs look fine.

Lillymon

October 20th, 2002, 10:01

:plain:

The only difference here is mann attached his to my post while I was trying to show an image hosted on my web space. This makes no sense at all.

cooliscool: Go here (http://www.mess.org/) and take a look at the sidebar. Looking a little strange? The green on the PNGs and the green on the background are supposed to be identical. They are in Mozilla but not in IE.

Lillymon

October 20th, 2002, 10:07

I'm trying to show the image (like you did) but linking from my own web space using the '[IMG]' tags.

MaGiX

October 20th, 2002, 10:07

That might be a problem..why dont you just upload them. (attach)

cooliscool

October 20th, 2002, 10:09

Originally posted by Lillymon
:plain:

The only difference here is mann attached his to my post while I was trying to show an image hosted on my web space. This makes no sense at all.

cooliscool: Go here (http://www.mess.org/) and take a look at the sidebar. Looking a little strange? The green on the PNGs and the green on the background are supposed to be identical. They are in Mozilla but not in IE.

yeah i see that. very weird indeed.

i deleted that post.. mann made it. long story, i know his password, he knows mine. what a mess. right now, mann's logged in as me, aswell as myself (the real one) so if you see lame posts, you know they're mann/magix's. :P

iq_132

October 20th, 2002, 10:27

Originally posted by cooliscool

Originally posted by Lillymon
:plain:

The only difference here is mann attached his to my post while I was trying to show an image hosted on my web space. This makes no sense at all.

cooliscool: Go here (http://www.mess.org/) and take a look at the sidebar. Looking a little strange? The green on the PNGs and the green on the background are supposed to be identical. They are in Mozilla but not in IE.

yeah i see that. very weird indeed.

i deleted that post.. mann made it. long story, i know his password, he knows mine. what a mess. right now, mann's logged in as me, aswell as myself (the real one) so if you see lame posts, you know they're mann/magix's. :P

1. That was a dumb thing to do cool
2. Change your password
3. Can we please get back on the topic at hand? Ultrahle 2? (I'm not a mod, but it is annoying)

Stezo2k

October 20th, 2002, 10:41

yeah especially when a gr8 emu is being remade and this is a pretty damn gr8 and ontopic thread :)

Stez

LD.

October 20th, 2002, 13:06

Blimey, this thing looks great!

I just hope it runs as well as the first version did, what with all the new plugin support and stuff. I sure hope using D3D/OpenGL is only optional.

RatTrap

October 20th, 2002, 14:53

guys.. bout browsers and pngs etc.. start a thread at "website corner" and i'll educate you untill i get bored :p.. unless you are afraid of what facts i might show you ;)..

about having trouble to check the site:
if you can't see the page.. i'm not sure what to do or tell you.. it's rens domain and it's somewhat temporari afaik.. i might move a copy of the anouncement site to my site tonight.. but i can't promiss anything (most probably won't happen).. i'm in the process of changing domain names.. (not sure if i'll change though.. abit indecisive about it).. www.cloudedsky.net (the egg has been there for quite sometime i might add :p.. )

about the emu:
yes afaik.. compatibility has progressed a whole lot.. and it still is.. HLE.. also zilmar spec has been added.. just like stated on the announcement..

and.. i've seen in some other boards ppl are saying pj64 and 1964 have a new competitor.. and starting some small yet ridicules emu-wars.. i myself don't see uhle2 as a competitor with any other n64 emu that i know of.. since they are very diferent types of emulators.. uhle2 is as pure HLE as it is possible to get in a n64 emu.. those 2 others are'nt..

Stezo2k

October 20th, 2002, 15:07

i'd say the compatability looks competetive, especially for ppl with older pcs (such as mine) keep up the good work m8 :)

Stez

sk8bloke22

October 20th, 2002, 17:14

shit, very good news. good luck to the new team as well. personally i dont think it should be called uhle 2 due to the fact that it is not this new team's original work. although rattrap said the name might change anyway, plus as they've had to already state, some ppl might get confused and think this is still realitymn's/epilison's work. im sure that none of wat ive written makes any sense at all, so nevermind. oh and good luck and thank you to the new team for putting effort and time into something that really excites a lot of ppl

Hacktarux

October 20th, 2002, 17:20

Originally posted by sk8bloke22
shit, very good news. good luck to the new team as well. personally i dont think it should be called uhle 2 due to the fact that it is not this new team's original work. although rattrap said the name might change anyway, plus as they've had to already state, some ppl might get confused and think this is still realitymn's/epilison's work. im sure that none of wat ive written makes any sense at all, so nevermind. oh and good luck and thank you to the new team for putting effort and time into something that really excites a lot of ppl

Don't worry it really make sense, and you can't imagine how much discussions there was concerning the name... Each ones had its pros and its cons. You can sum up the problem by, people need to know that it's based on original authors work, and they also need to know that we are not affiliated to the original authors.... Well i guess we can discuss about it forever and finally we have ended to something very simple, ultrahle 2, that's all....

Stezo2k

October 20th, 2002, 17:50

Originally posted by sk8bloke22
shit, very good news. good luck to the new team as well. personally i dont think it should be called uhle 2 due to the fact that it is not this new team's original work. although rattrap said the name might change anyway, plus as they've had to already state, some ppl might get confused and think this is still realitymn's/epilison's work. im sure that none of wat ive written makes any sense at all, so nevermind. oh and good luck and thank you to the new team for putting effort and time into something that really excites a lot of ppl

but the beta 1.5 version of PJ64 wasnt by the original authors, and most of us treated it like it was official, i'd say its morealess official, look how much work Dom has done to SupraHLE and the other authors respect UltraHLE and are going to give credit to the original authors, so why shouldnt it be official?

Stez

Eddy

October 20th, 2002, 17:52

i find the name good

aprentice

October 20th, 2002, 17:58

The name isn't really as important as the project right now :happy:

RatTrap

October 20th, 2002, 18:59

exactly.. wich is still a WiP project :p.. so you guys should stop reading so much into it and just be cool with it :p.. since it could change.. afaik.. nobody agreed to that name but we used it just in lack of having finished our name discussion.. but hey.. i dunno.. i was away for bout a week anyways :)..

crhylove

October 20th, 2002, 19:01

The name isn't really as important as the project right now..

agreed 100% on this.

rhy

LD.

October 20th, 2002, 19:13

Originally posted by Stezo2k
[QUOTE]Originally posted by sk8bloke22
[B]i'd say its morealess official, look how much work Dom has done to SupraHLE and the other authors respect UltraHLE and are going to give credit to the original authors, so why shouldnt it be official?

It can't, won't and shouldn't be official unless RealityMan or Epsilon give it the thumbs up. Without their approval, anything that happens with UltraHLE is unofficial.

But who cares as long as we can play games :D

ScottJC

October 20th, 2002, 19:19

yes, but i doubt they even care, and will probably not reply if you ask them.

Tri-Force

October 20th, 2002, 19:28

how about sHeLiEs64

cooliscool

October 20th, 2002, 19:51

Originally posted by iq_132

Originally posted by cooliscool

Originally posted by Lillymon
:plain:

The only difference here is mann attached his to my post while I was trying to show an image hosted on my web space. This makes no sense at all.

cooliscool: Go here (http://www.mess.org/) and take a look at the sidebar. Looking a little strange? The green on the PNGs and the green on the background are supposed to be identical. They are in Mozilla but not in IE.

yeah i see that. very weird indeed.

i deleted that post.. mann made it. long story, i know his password, he knows mine. what a mess. right now, mann's logged in as me, aswell as myself (the real one) so if you see lame posts, you know they're mann/magix's. :P

1. That was a dumb thing to do cool
2. Change your password
3. Can we please get back on the topic at hand? Ultrahle 2? (I'm not a mod, but it is annoying)

no it wasn't dumb. he's a friend. :)

Stezo2k

October 20th, 2002, 19:58

Originally posted by Sayargh
yes, but i doubt they even care, and will probably not reply if you ask them.

well i highly doubt Realityman gives a fuck if he deleted the source and never released his work, which was proabably fake. Duno about epsilon though i heard that 95% of the work was by him on the site that leaked the source

Stez

legendj

October 20th, 2002, 20:56

only the future will say if this is fake or not... ;)

MaGiX

October 20th, 2002, 21:02

Originally posted by cooliscool

Originally posted by iq_132

Originally posted by cooliscool

Originally posted by Lillymon
:plain:

The only difference here is mann attached his to my post while I was trying to show an image hosted on my web space. This makes no sense at all.

cooliscool: Go here (http://www.mess.org/) and take a look at the sidebar. Looking a little strange? The green on the PNGs and the green on the background are supposed to be identical. They are in Mozilla but not in IE.

yeah i see that. very weird indeed.

i deleted that post.. mann made it. long story, i know his password, he knows mine. what a mess. right now, mann's logged in as me, aswell as myself (the real one) so if you see lame posts, you know they're mann/magix's. :P

1. That was a dumb thing to do cool
2. Change your password
3. Can we please get back on the topic at hand? Ultrahle 2? (I'm not a mod, but it is annoying)

no it wasn't dumb. he's a friend. :)

Yeah, dude I dont mess around to much...no big deal...

Stezo2k

October 20th, 2002, 21:26

Originally posted by legendj
only the future will say if this is fake or not... ;)

theres a very good chance this is legit, look at the authors, they aint fakers like blaze or any other lamer on this forum, and why would they make a fancey looking site for it if it was fake? i rest my case

Stez

legendj

October 20th, 2002, 21:37

Originally posted by Stezo2k

Originally posted by legendj
only the future will say if this is fake or not... ;)

theres a very good chance this is legit, look at the authors, they aint fakers like blaze or any other lamer on this forum, and why would they make a fancey looking site for it if it was fake? i rest my case

Stez

Oh Yeah... :D

Everybody is waiting for UltraHLE 2.0 ... :biggrin:

Sorry :pj64: , :nemu: , :apollo: and :1964: ...

Quvack

October 21st, 2002, 04:01

Hehe, working out the name has been a problem :P its hard to decide what to use when you dont wish to create confusion and stuff like that, change the name completly and some people will think your ripping off the source totally, dont change it and people will think its an official version! Ahhhh! :p

But as others have said the project itself is the main thing at the moment, we can work out the name closer to release time I suppose.

And about it being fake or not I guess you guys are going to just have to trust us and wait :) It's hard to prove when we can only really show screen shots at the moment!

iq_132

October 21st, 2002, 04:16

I doubt that it's fake, especially if you look at who's making it!
These people have been in the scene for a long time.

Eddy

October 21st, 2002, 04:44

i cant believe people are doubting, demanding, and complaining

Quvack

October 21st, 2002, 04:47

Originally posted by Eddy
i cant believe people are doubting, demanding, and complaining

ah you get used to it, it happens with every emu project :p

Tri-Force

October 21st, 2002, 06:49

IT"S NOT FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thank you. geeze people it's not like this is Nemu 8 were talking about (that was a joke) but really this is real and WILL be released. (that was a low blow)

icepir8

October 21st, 2002, 06:51

I believe!

Tri-Force

October 21st, 2002, 07:08

now i'm trying "mozilla" which is EXACTLY THE SAME CRAP AS NETSCAPE!!!!! and it still doesn't work.

iq_132

October 21st, 2002, 07:19

now i'm trying "mozilla" which is EXACTLY THE SAME CRAP AS NETSCAPE!!!!! and it still doesn't work.
Start a thread on it, or:

Tri-Force

October 21st, 2002, 07:44

oops, i did start a thread but accidently posted this in the wrong spot because i had 2 browsers going at the same time

zero0w

October 21st, 2002, 09:00

D@mn how can I miss this announcement! :D

As others have eloquently put it, UHLE 2.0 will be great and it will enliven the N64 scene once again. As for the name of the project I have the following suggestions:

I think it's better to keep the version number.

UltraHLE Plus 2.0
UltraHLE Pro 2.0
SupraHLE 2.0 (depends on the team or Dom's opinion on this)
SurrealHLE 2.0
RebornHLE 2.0
ExtremeHLE 2.0

Any other suggestions?

Also, I was thinking if UltraHLE can be ported to Linux with OpenGL Graphic and SDL Audio support later on. That way it can be enjoyed by more people out there, myself included. But I guess it's better to focus on getting UHLE 2 on Windows out first. Thanks to every one on UHLE 2 team. :)

It will be another amazing achievement since ePSXe in the PSX emu scene.

LD.

October 21st, 2002, 16:32

My thoughts on the name: either ÜberHLE or UltraHL33T.

sk8bloke22

October 21st, 2002, 16:45

Originally posted by Quvack
Hehe, working out the name has been a problem :P its hard to decide what to use when you dont wish to create confusion and stuff like that, change the name completly and some people will think your ripping off the source totally, dont change it and people will think its an official version! Ahhhh! :p

But as others have said the project itself is the main thing at the moment, we can work out the name closer to release time I suppose.

And about it being fake or not I guess you guys are going to just have to trust us and wait :) It's hard to prove when we can only really show screen shots at the moment!

yup, fair enuff, ill shut me mouth :cool: . my only concern was that if someone unknown right now would release a modified version of pj64 and call it pj64 1.6, ppl would get pissed off, blah blah. just because these guys are respected in emulation doesnt give them the right over other ppl to claim a project is theres. but i dont wanna start some massive debate, as u all say, the project is wats important, its only WIP, and things can change. just hope u guys can understand where im coming from. anyway, good luck, it should be exciting to see how far u can take HLE. :D

Smiff

October 21st, 2002, 17:13

yeah i'm afraid i did have an unfortunate run in with Gent & Witten after i got wind of a PJ64 v1.5.. it's a difficult thing because sadly many users can't be trusted to work out (or care) which pseudonymn is attached to which bit of which release... when you've put a lot of work into something (and are honest) you do care about being credited correctly, which is as much about not taking credit where you shouldn't as getting it where it's needed.

imho your about box should be something like

"UltraHLE 2.x by [new team]
based on UltraHLE v1.0.0 by [original authors]"

so it's clear that 1) the new version is not from E & R and 2) you have use E & R's source (both things being equally important imho).

or at least that's what we (Project64 team) were going with until we actually got the teams together and it changed.

Tri-Force

October 21st, 2002, 18:28

well supra HLE has not mention of Ep an Re but everyone knows that it was based on their work. i understand the whole credit where credit is due point of view but this is the legendary UltraHLE were talking about here. Everyone already KNOWS that it's based on their leaked code. and changing the name too much might be a bad idea only because some people who don't frequent the boards wont know that its the next comming of the legend (what the hell am i talking like this for) however i DO agree with smiff. put the whole project based/coded by note at the bottom like were Re and Ep had it in the first place.

iq_132

October 21st, 2002, 18:32

I'm pretty sure that they have settled on UltraHLE 2.0.
Let's leave it at that.

RatTrap

October 21st, 2002, 19:21

honestly.. i feel smiff is right.. and this is somethingthe guys allready have in mind.. they've considered the crediting of both this new group and the original group.. it's really dificult though.. to decide what to do with 7 guys you know.. but as an individual of course it's easier to just think this way and make it seem like the right thing to do.. just know that there's 7 guys in this project.. and not all think alike / agree on the same names / ideas :p..

but yeah.. the name has been changed allready.. and it has been set.. it won't be reveiled untill it's out though.. so you guys will just have to wait and see :)..

Malcolm

October 21st, 2002, 20:59

Rattums, why do you keep mentioning that there are 7 guys? Makes me...

zero0w

October 21st, 2002, 21:02

Smiff idea is sound, I think it should go like that.

Eddy

October 21st, 2002, 21:57

i like the uhle2.0 name better, thats part of the reason why this announcement is so big, so i say leave it, and people jump off with trying to change the name, let it get released at least.

Stezo2k

October 21st, 2002, 22:02

smiffs right, keep the name, just make sure that the original authors are credited, which im sure dom and crew will do :)

aprentice

October 22nd, 2002, 03:52

All that has been taken care of.. next topic? :happy:

crhylove

October 22nd, 2002, 04:12

why are asian chicks so hot?

is this a good topic? :P

Eddy

October 22nd, 2002, 04:20

i personally dont feel for them, but some look good

iq_132

October 22nd, 2002, 05:02

I think that aprentice meant a ultrahle 2 related topic...

Tri-Force

October 22nd, 2002, 07:10

are you guys gonna try to work an Asain Chick HLE into the project? :cool:

Stezo2k

October 22nd, 2002, 12:26

Originally posted by crhylove
why are asian chicks so hot?

is this a good topic? :P

heh its a very nice topic, and true :) i'm sitting with about 20 of em here in college now :D heh i have no idea why im so attracted though

Stez

mmcoder

October 22nd, 2002, 13:03

This is awesome news, particularly if it means I will never see a glide wrapper again.

I do have a name suggestion though, Super UltraHLE

Stezo2k

October 22nd, 2002, 15:30

nah sounds kinda cheesy, ultraHLE 2.0 sounds profesional enough if u give credit to the authors, which they will anyway

Stez

The Khan Artist

October 22nd, 2002, 17:05

I've got only one question: do you guys plan on releasing the source to this at any point.

Tri-Force

October 22nd, 2002, 17:09

coming from someone with a name like yours that sounds very suspect.

LD.

October 22nd, 2002, 17:09

Ooh, good question. Is this going to be open or closed source?

aprentice

October 22nd, 2002, 18:05

Originally posted by The Khan Artist
I've got only one question: do you guys plan on releasing the source to this at any point.

We have no plans on releasing the source but for many reasons.

1) UltraHLE is not open source in the first place
2) We do not want many people working on their own versions with very minor fixes of uhle using our source. If we did, we wouldn't have made an announcement.
3) Why do you need the source anyway? :P

But if we do quit the project (I'm sure you can't wait j/k) we most likely will release the code.

Stezo2k

October 22nd, 2002, 18:12

Originally posted by aprentice
3) Why do you need the source anyway? :P

But if we do quit the project (I'm sure you can't wait j/k) we most likely will release the code.

I duno, some one may decide to port it to Xbox or another next generation console (i hope, dc, i dont care about the ram, id be happy playing small n64 games like mario64 on dc :))

And secondly Thats a good thing, releasing the source if you quit, wish the nemu ppl would of done that :plain2:

Stez