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Eagle
December 9th, 2001, 07:50
I'm fairly good at both of these so if you have a specific question, I can answer them. I can't however teach the entire programs on this web forum so I need specific questions.

RatTrap
December 12th, 2001, 17:00
:D.. How do you make a photograph into a curve of multilayered CMYK values for each RGB color?.. as you do when you make old-school 3d effects.. (kinda like the one they used to show at the cinemas.. where you had to use the 3d glasses)..

i asked my ex photoshop teach that and had a laugh watching him squirm out a very flawd answer :devil:..

Eagle
December 12th, 2001, 20:47
I don't think thats possible in Photoshop 6 or Paint Shop Pro 7 at the moment. I don't know could be, but I'm not a complete expert at either of them :p Besides what possible use could that have in making a logo?

i4get
December 12th, 2001, 22:15
haha

RatTrap
December 13th, 2001, 05:49
actually.. it's VERY simple.. you just slide the G-colour channel layer a few pixels to the right or left.. then the B-colour channel layer to the other side.. depending on if you want depth of field or depth with relief or hue or on cue or whatever you want.. it's so easy it's scary and can be donne with both photo and paint shop..

why use it on a logo?.. how bout making a 3d logo?.. so you can use 3d glasses on the logo.. i've been considering the idea of making a complete 3d colour website.. of course though.. you would need the RG or RB or GB glasses.. depending on wich color you decide to keep as the base colour ;)..

eather way.. it's exactly how they did it back at the cinema and the way they do it on tv.. there's even special filters for photoshop that will do this.. and for video editing software.. it's something of a standard filter.. comes with some like.. strata Studio i believe and Toaster..

btw.. for this pic you'll need 3d glasses.. i think i moved the blue and the red one.. not sure.. so you should use ones with green and red.. or if you want extra relief on depth.. then use blue with red.. you get diferent effects for each combination but they all give a sertain type of 3d look..

RatTrap
December 13th, 2001, 05:52
lol.. that looks kinda scary groovy kinda cool.. i just checked with my old old 3d glasses :D.. i think i over did the sliding though.. it has abit to much depth hehe :blush:..

mesman00
December 14th, 2001, 02:41
how do u know so much about so many different things!!

RatTrap
December 14th, 2001, 05:01
coz i don't.. there's alot of things i don't know.. and i'm very interested in many things.. so i end up trying to understand them all.. i'm a sort of a knoledge seeker :).. i've been around most scenes.. the emu scene is just one of many.. although one of the most interesting.. my brain is allways hungry so it makes me seek out new ideas and information.. to boldly go (ok i'm not really bold.. but pretty darn close to it).. where no man has gone b4.. hmm.. yep.. sure.. right.. haha.. :D..

Eagle
December 14th, 2001, 06:17
Yah, I c what your saying, but thats not really multilayered CMYK. In order to do that, you would need to seperate Cyan, Magenta, Yellow, and Black onto their own seperate individual transparent layers. Sort of what they did on clear transparency paper for making CMYK advertisements before the advent of programs such as Quark Express.

RatTrap
December 14th, 2001, 10:09
How do you make a photograph into a curve of multilayered CMYK values for each RGB color?..


how the advertisement ppl work and make multilayered CMYK is not what i asked about.. that can also be donne on photoshop though..

from the start.. CMYK is derivated out from RGB.. b4.. you would start off with an RGB pic.. make it multilayered.. devide color layers into CMY colors.. and you got K as a bonus .. and voula.. multilayered.. this was analog image processing power.. but it's allways been a kind of grey area.. coz most ppl just don't learn how colours really work.. so they thought it was the only way to do it..

when you have RGB.. you mix B and R to get C.. R with B to get M.. R with G to get Y.. and mixing all six you get white.. and since CMY colours are used as a substractives.. you just mix all 3 CMY colours at 100% to get K (black).. there you have the whole scale of layers you need.. and this could be dunne using old photostyler 2.. the predecessor to photoshop..

all of that is the real process.. you've never needed a super special program for it.. i know.. i've worked for an advertising companie a few times.. made a few big freaken posters.. and yeah.. you do need have a special eye for colours.. and true.. Quark does help alot with that.. but it does nothing that could'nt be donne b4.. just that it makes some things way easier..

but to do what i asked eather way.. all you need to do.. is slide R or G or B layers around.. no need for analog image processing :p.. coz as soon as you move the R or B or G.. you get the result i asked for.. then if you wanna have it CMYK channel multilayered.. wich is not what i asked for :p.. you just chose to turn it in the [Image/Mode/CMYK-Colour] menu :D..

Eagle
December 15th, 2001, 01:01
I understand all that, but using the word "Multi-Layered" is misleading to what you were talking about because in Photoshop and PSP, Layers are a completely different thing.

RatTrap
December 15th, 2001, 07:09
of course it is.. "multilayered CMYK values" are something completly diferent then layers.. then again.. i used -RGB color layers-.. not -RGB value layers-.. to give the image the CMYK color VALUE layers :p.. i thought you had figured out it was a trick question with the huge explanation i gave ya :).. and yes.. it's all in the terminologi.. and if you don't know the diference between the two.. you might end up doing something just really very not right :D..

Tesla-Guy
December 24th, 2001, 17:10
this q might sound a bit dumb, but how do u make the circles around the letters? (photoshop 5)

Eagle
December 24th, 2001, 20:14
Well, you can use the Type layer tool to make the text of course, then use the Eliptical Marquee tool to make a circle and then fill it with a color. What kind of circles are you looking for?