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[mesman00]

Did you guys check out the Daedalus homepage recently. Seems strmnrm has begun to port Daedalus to the XBOX. he posted some screenshots, it looks pretty sweet. i think this is a great achievement in emulation, how bout all of you?

[Dabba_Deh]

I think they should do something similar with 1964. But the plugin system may be harder to port. Would it be possible? [And, would the FPS be worth it]?

[2bzy4ne1]

It's possible. The plugin system wouldn't be hard to port since they both use zilmar spec. for the plugins. And if you can see daedalus running at almost 60 FPS, then 1964 should be able to do the same or better...

[StrmnNrmn]

Hrm, I'm not sure sure it would be that easy to port the plugins, as the xbox won't let you dynamically link to any code. There's no such things as .dlls on the xbox - everything has to be statically linked into the executable - so you have to have the source code to have any chance of getting the plugin working. When I ported Daedalus, I had to re-merge the graphics plugin source back into the main codebase.

That said, if the plugin source is available, it's not too hard to do if you have a wrapper around the calls to the plugin, because you can just call the statically linked code directly. After that there's not really much work required to get DX8 code working with the Xbox (it's actually a lot simpler to create the render target and initialise everything, as there's no device enumeration to bother with). There's a few subtle changes that are needed - like you have to swizzle all the textures if you want to use the wrap or mirroring addressing modes, and that can be quite a performance hit.

There's no DirectInput, so input plugins need to be changed to use the controller api (which is a lot simpler than DirectInput anyway).

I've not got sound working in Daedalus-Xbox, so I can't really comment on that, although I guess it's not going to be that difficult. Having the source for an audio plugin would obviously help though.

StrmnNrmn

[Smiff]

uh oh, look at this

http://slashdot.org/articles/02/06/27/1743229.shtml?tid=167

[Harteex]

Daedalus on Xbox is very very cool :)

I really hope you release it in any form, like sourcecode. Whatever, it's great work!

[Harteex]

Smiff: yes, but that's only the binaries... the source is still available.

[Blade64]

I am a little unsure of things here - If the XBox Emu was released. Would it be a simple case of burning the image to CD. (Like you do with stuff from DCCopyWorld) and then it would play r would you have to have your X-Box chipped in some way. Would there be a way to make it self bootable. Someone explain!!!

[StrmnNrmn]

You'd have to have a modded Xbox, or a devkit for it to work unfortunately.

[mesman00]

strmnrm, if you don't wanna answer this, its alright, but how are u running the port, is ur xbox modded?? or do u have the devkit?

[DuDe]

He`s a developer, I guess he has a devkit :)

[Raging Fuel]

strmnrmn, if you dont mind me asking, what developer do you work for?

Also good work. I hope MS doesn't try to stop you from making more progress.

[CoDeX]

will some emulator of N64 come out for GameCube?
:bunny:

[Encirp]

ya that would be awesome if someone made a mod chip for the gamecube and you could play n64 on it

what do you think guys and i was wondering why everyone is modding x-box and playstation 2 but theres not a lot of mod stuff for the gamecube
answers apprecaited

[LD.]

I suppose it has something to do with the fact that the GC uses mini-dvd discs for its games, which aren't as easy to get hold of to burn games onto.

No burnt games = no need to mod.

[Blade64]

Sorry but going back to X-Box is there not the possibility of a boot disk like Playstation or Dreamcast - As I don't want to invalidate my warrenty???

[DuDe]

Not yet.

[sk8bloke22]

how fast is daedalus on the xbox, cos it looks wkd, however the thought of playing zelda or goldeneye on the xbox controller sends a shiver down my spine.

[DuDe]

StrmnNrmn said it`s fast... 60 fps at Mario Kart...

[Harteex]

Martin's friend said... "100 + FPS"

[StrmnNrmn]

Yeah, it's pretty fast at the moment, but then there's no audio (at the moment at least).

The xbox controller works pretty well, it's just the buttons don't map perfectly onto an n64 controller. What's quite interesting though is that the devkits come with a USB converter, which raises the possibility of using an adaptoid. I've tried this before, but the xbox won't even enumerate the device, so I need to look into the documentation a bit further.

[Gamer123]

So how would this work exactly? Are you going to release an ISO of the emulator, and then we burn as many roms onto the CD as we can? Or do we install it on to the Xbox HD, and burn a data CD of roms?

[Harteex]

He will not release an iso to the public, because that's against some license I guess... He'll maybe release the sourcecode (I hope :) )

I don't have it so I don't know, but since you have to burn the roms on the cd or dvd with MameX I think it's the same with Daedalus. You don't install anything on the harddrive...

StrmnNrmn: Just curious, have you made so the games can save, or will you implent this in the future?

[StrmnNrmn]

There's no game saving at the moment, but I don't think it will be too difficult to implement.

[BladeX]

As an X-Box owner this is very exciting news. And I hope for a release, I was just wonderin if u could possible post some shots of the interface to select games like they have on DreamSnes etc. or has this not been implemented?

[Harteex]

BladeX:
Look here: http://www.dextrose.com/xbox/

[BladeX]

COOL! I love the movie idea! They should do that on Emulation64 if authors could send movies!!!

[tim_vowles]

i have several Daedalus movies... the Emu runs really fast.
Mario is like on steriods.. This emu was leaked and is banned for discussion. a new version is coming soon for the public.
so wait patiently.

[Batmanx]

Originally posted by StrmnNrmn
You'd have to have a modded Xbox, or a devkit for it to work unfortunately.
Do you plan to keep on working on the xbox version too?
It would be FANTASTIC

[Kuriousg3]

Ya how about all focus on this XboX !!:sly: :sly: :sly: :innocent:

[Loto_Bak]

The gamecube is much harder to mod than the xbox because of custom hardware. It runs with a powerPC chip and is unlike pc hardware. Believe me people are working on it, i have also seen movies of a gamecube booting backups.

Currently there are some issues, such as there is a barcode on the inner ring of the mini-dvdrs and is read by the gamecube at boot

Mini-dvdrs are easy to come by because many new digital video cameras are using them to record. Search for mini-dvdrs and you will find man retailers. If you want to see the movies they are on lik-sang.com somewhere (in the news i think)

[Remote]

Weren't the GC movies posted at lik-sang.com a couple of months ago extremely made up, i.e they connected a GC to a TV set and then pretended to run it off the PC... :ermm:

[cooliscool]

Originally posted by Remote
Weren't the GC movies posted at lik-sang.com a couple of months ago extremely made up, i.e they connected a GC to a TV set and then pretended to run it off the PC... :ermm:

Quit reviving dead threads n00b. :happy: j/k