View Full Version : Dam...is Ott sooo much better then MoM?
Huanjun Ji
December 6th, 2001, 05:45
I always thought the XXX(game) II is better then XXX(game) I
maybe that doesn't apply on Zelda...
is Ott really that much better????
Macca
December 6th, 2001, 06:07
i like oot better IMO but mm is still a great game. :D
i don't know where your theory is coming from cause pretty much all of my fav games are better than sequels.
Zelda OoT better thanZelda MM
Driver better than Driver 2
Syphon filter better than 2 & 3
Halflife better than Op and BS :p
Eagle
December 6th, 2001, 06:15
Ya OOT is much better. They kinda rushed MM.
blizz
December 6th, 2001, 16:32
MM has some great touches but most of the time it just drives me up the wall, especially snowhead, I put the game down for ages when I got stuck there
I liked the atmosphere of the game and the constant ticking away of time but the goron racing just annoyed me.
HostLink
December 7th, 2001, 03:46
The think I most hate of MM is the annoying time system which makes u to have to redo some things twice or thrice, so I only beat the first temple and returned to OoT... but I'll have to finish MM some day anyway.
pj64er
December 7th, 2001, 04:17
Myamoto (the mario guy, forgot how to spell it) has less influence on the development of MM than OoT.
hmm...
Jsr
December 7th, 2001, 22:19
I must say that I think my favourite is Zelda 3 A Link to the Past,
but between MM and OoT, it must be OoT since it has a better
story and, in some way just is better then MM, but MM is fun to
:)
Eagle
December 7th, 2001, 22:27
Originally posted by Jsr
I must say that I think my favourite is Zelda 3 A Link to the Past,
but between MM and OoT, it must be OoT since it has a better
story and, in some way just is better then MM, but MM is fun to
:)
Well if you want to include all of them, I liked Links Awakening the best.
Method Man
December 8th, 2001, 04:48
I agree that OOT is better than MM.
hellknight
December 8th, 2001, 10:00
Yeah link's awakening really rocks:cool:
Huanjun Ji
December 9th, 2001, 02:49
wow...I have been missing out here...
ok, I'm definitly gonna try oot now.....
Macca, you talked about syphon filter......
I played the demo on playstation in a store before..but never got to play the real thing...I'm just asking is it also on N64?
pj64er
December 9th, 2001, 02:56
no, Syphon Filter is not for n64
DiaBlo666
December 12th, 2001, 19:12
i think OoT is way better than MM cuz it has many things from diff version all mixed up ...
btw.. a link to the past was awefull too i liked it ..
but still OoT is better :)
linker
December 15th, 2001, 23:39
If we are talking about the all of the zelda-s my favourite is zelda III. It has a good story. Graphic - it cannot be compared with its new brothers oot and mom but its good.
Which of the two games is better? - According to me the Ocarina of Time is better. But of course somebody can say the opposite. Finally I can say the Mr. Mayamoto (what the heck is this name?) is a genius and the whole zelda "generation" is excelent.
blizz
December 16th, 2001, 02:36
it's Shigeru Miyamoto
Slougi
December 16th, 2001, 02:44
I like the CD-i Zelda games.....
:blush: ;) :D
hellknight
December 16th, 2001, 10:38
you mean the GC Zelda?maybe maybe not we will see if it's bad or good
blizz
December 16th, 2001, 14:15
Originally posted by Slougi
I like the CD-i Zelda games.....
:blush: ;) :D
Infidel!!!
/begins throwing CDI CD's at Slougi
;) :D
hellknight
December 16th, 2001, 17:49
THe most thing I hate on oot are some dungeons I really hate them I only like the spirit temple really but MoM I like them all so I think mom is better
linker
December 16th, 2001, 22:36
Originally posted by hellknight
you mean the GC Zelda?maybe maybe not we will see if it's bad or good
I don't know but when I have saw a screen shot from the gc zelda i would vomit (is that the word?). Its graphic was something like a powerpuff or dexter's laboratory cartoon. Let me see if I can upload it... oofff, maybe I've deleted it, but believe me it was something terrible. I hope that Nintendo continue the tradition and make a good game.
linker
December 16th, 2001, 23:08
Ok, it the site is not down go to
http://www.zeldainfinite.com/zeldagamecube/zelda01.jpg
now go to this site -
ign... (http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:LM4JEQRXMtU:cube.ign.com/news/37692.html+Zelda+Gamecube+screenshots&hl=bg)
and read the story..
I think it's funny, isn't it. Is this a joke... ammm... no comment.
blizz
December 16th, 2001, 23:22
I think nintendo have made an internal decision to develope the miyamoto franchies towards the "kids" since that is how they are percieved in the market and develop new ones for a "mature gamer"
having said that the cynic in me thinks they chose this style to regain the Japanese market since they love that chibi style ;)
also there is supposed to be a Golden Sun RPG in the works and hopefully they'll use a style which doesn't involve Cell Shading
linker
December 16th, 2001, 23:38
Originally posted by blizz
I think nintendo have made an internal decision to develope the miyamoto franchies towards the "kids" since that is how they are percieved in the market and develop new ones for a "mature gamer"
having said that the cynic in me thinks they chose this style to regain the Japanese market since they love that chibi style ;)
also there is supposed to be a Golden Sun RPG in the works and hopefully they'll use a style which doesn't involve Cell Shading
My only hope is there will be another zelda for gc (like zelda mom for n64) and won't be in "cartoon mode :colgate:". So we just have to wait, that's all (oo, i forgot, not only wait, but also hope :) ).
pj64er
December 17th, 2001, 01:46
man, does gfx make such a big difference to u?
i play Zelda for its ingenius dungeon design, and inventive boss battles.
u guys seem to play it to look at link...
as long as the dungeons and bosses r great, zelda GC should be a must buy!
pj64er
December 17th, 2001, 01:48
Originally posted by Slougi
I like the CD-i Zelda games.....
:blush: ;) :D
Slougi, ur joking rite? those r not supposed to be even considered Zeldas! someone kill this madman quick, education must hav poisoned his mind.
linker
December 17th, 2001, 10:49
Originally posted by pj64er
man, does gfx make such a big difference to u?
i play Zelda for its ingenius dungeon design, and inventive boss battles.
u guys seem to play it to look at link...
as long as the dungeons and bosses r great, zelda GC should be a must buy!
Pj64er, you are right, it's not only the gfx, but I will not feel the difference between the new zelda-s and the old ones. If the game looks perfect (perfect=awesome gfx, sound, music, gameplay) every self-respecting gamer would buy it. And you maybe know that if one of this components is not right (i.e. the gfx in this case) ... than what are we talking about, so... I hope that this cartoon style is a good thing...
pj64er
December 17th, 2001, 21:52
ur speaking as if the gfx is lacking! if u look at it technically, it is the best cel shading yet. i just found it odd that a change of gfx style would distract ppl so much from what makes a Zelda game Zelda-y(or -ish).
linker
December 17th, 2001, 22:24
I agree
pj64er
December 17th, 2001, 22:29
i just hope that it will be a good game so i wont feel stupid for defending it against so much ppl:D
linker
December 17th, 2001, 22:50
Pj64er, I won't argue for something that I don't know (i.e. the new zelda). Maybe it'll be a good game, cause it is made by nintendo, and everybody know that the guys at Nintendo are genius. That's all from for now. :cool:
Zombie9920
December 21st, 2001, 03:29
I'm disappointed with the new look for the GameCube Zelda.
It originally looked awsome. You can have a look at the original design for gamecube zelda here.
http://cubemedia.ign.com/media/previews/video/zelda/zeldademo.mpg
Hopefully Nintendo will release a sequal that will have those graphics. :)
pj64er
December 21st, 2001, 18:15
Originally posted by Zombie9920
I'm disappointed with the new look for the GameCube Zelda.
It originally looked awsome. You can have a look at the original design for gamecube zelda here.
http://cubemedia.ign.com/media/previews/video/zelda/zeldademo.mpg
Hopefully Nintendo will release a sequal that will have those graphics. :)
feck, if gfx mean so much to u, then ur not a true Zelda fan. That goes to anyone else who thinks that the game is now ruined because nintendo had a change of gfx style.
Plus those were NOT the original design. it was a tech demo to wow the crowds at Spaceworld.
Honestly, do u play Zelda to check out Link's clothes?
blizz
December 21st, 2001, 21:31
/gives pj64er a cookie
I think the original design was meant to be something similar to the CG seen in the Oracles adverts
I freaked out the first time I saw Chibi Link but I'm happier with Chibi Link mainly because the more traditional Link that appeared first was just a little bit too fay for my liking to be the hero, and cute stuff sells well in Japan,
they ought to drop the Looney Toons humor though, because that isn't funny anymore, unless it's on Farscape ;)
pj64er
December 21st, 2001, 22:07
Yes! a cookie!
why do everyone use the word Chibi to describe the new look? whats it mean?
also, i also realize that the reason nintendo gave made sense. they said something along the lines of it giving them creative freedom. it makes sense, when u think about it. now that link is like a cartoon, nintendo can throw any new play elements to the game without making the game unrealistic.
blizz
December 21st, 2001, 23:09
Chibi is a term used to describe that super deformed style with massive heads and eyes.
linker
December 21st, 2001, 23:50
I think that everybody understood what pj64er want to say - the gameplay is more important than the gfx... ok.
pj64er
December 22nd, 2001, 03:36
ya linker, im feeling sick of repeating myself too, but there are always ppl who:
a) dont read the whole thread
or
b) think their smart when they say they like the OLD GC Zelda design, and r disgusted by the new
and thx blizz, didnt a while ago they used to call it just 'Super-Deformed' or SD ? (ie SD-Gundam)
blizz
December 22nd, 2001, 22:09
hehe the difference is that SD basically look like cute small versions, Chibi has this overly sinister cute thing going on with huge eyes ;)
pj64er
December 23rd, 2001, 20:32
oh, ok!:)
got any other examples of this, chibi?
blizz
December 24th, 2001, 00:56
http://www.geocities.com/chibilovers/
they seem to be mainly cute stuff although they're saying SD and Chibi are the same, the problem is I attach chibi stuff to things which are too cute :devil:
gokuss4
December 24th, 2001, 08:54
OoT all the way. love legendary story lines. in a way, better graphic setting, great time setting, great plot, great characters, exellent gameplay. GO ZELDA OCARINA OF TIME, YEAH!!!!! oh and "one more thing" *imitating jackie chans uncle* great music
moffermn
January 20th, 2002, 18:56
ALL THE ZELDA'S RULEZ BUT THE MOST I LIKE IS
MM AND ORACLE OF AGES (THE NEWEST ON THE GAMEBOY)
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:pj64: RULEZzz THE BEST EMULATOR ON THE WORLD
Zero
January 21st, 2002, 19:05
In my humble opinion all Zelda's are good some are less good then others but they're still good.
I'm a little dissapointed about the GC version new look using the same technique as Jet Set Radio did on the DC.
But that's just me :)
gokuss4
January 22nd, 2002, 03:33
Originally posted by blizz
MM has some great touches but most of the time it just drives me up the wall, especially snowhead, I put the game down for ages when I got stuck there
I liked the atmosphere of the game and the constant ticking away of time but the goron racing just annoyed me.
yeah same here. i didn't like the goron race at all. i beat the game though with everything.
hellknight
January 27th, 2002, 00:17
[QUOTE]Originally posted by moffermn
[B]ALL THE ZELDA'S RULEZ BUT THE MOST I LIKE IS
MM AND ORACLE OF AGES (THE NEWEST ON THE GAMEBOY)
i HATE OOA AND OOS THEY BOTH SUCK!Links awakening was the really cool gb/c game it rocks!!!!!!!!!!
linker
January 27th, 2002, 04:00
Originally posted by hellknight
[QUOTE]Originally posted by moffermn
[B]ALL THE ZELDA'S RULEZ BUT THE MOST I LIKE IS
MM AND ORACLE OF AGES (THE NEWEST ON THE GAMEBOY)
i HATE OOA AND OOS THEY BOTH SUCK!Links awakening was the really cool gb/c game it rocks!!!!!!!!!!
think again hellknight
hellknight
January 30th, 2002, 23:43
nope I think so i hate it!!!!!!!!!!!
Tri-Force
February 2nd, 2002, 23:06
I have played and Beaten every zelda game ( the real ones anyway) except for MoM and here is the order I put them in from best to worst.
1. OOT. (Best game I have ever Played for any System.)
2. Link to the Past. (wonderful Story)
3.Oracle of Season (slightly better of the 2 Oracle Games)
4.Oracle of Ages
5.The Legend Of Zelda (the first one we all fell in love with)
6.Links Awakening (final Boss WAY to easy
7.Adventures of Link (SUCKED!!!!)
lets see more top 8 lists
Doomulation
February 27th, 2002, 03:56
Mmkay. OoT is better than MM.
1) In OoT, you get to play as Adult Link.
2) Princess Zelda is missing!!!!!
3) You are supposed to save Zelda in some way, that's how it has been in almost all games, but not MM.
4) Too little challenge. There's only 4 temples to beat. In OoT, there was much more.
5) Who cares about all masks? They could've removed some from this to make more temples.
6) This was a new game dammit, but the battle control was just as before! (Maybe not as bad)
7) Not much tresures. These were usually found outside temples. Not in previos games!
8) Last boss way to easy with the deity fairy's mask! It's just shot & he's dead!
These are some examples on why OoT is better than MM.
DiamondDeus
March 4th, 2002, 08:51
Ya, shigeru miyamoto didnt just have less influence, he had next to no influence at all, not only that, but a different composer did the music, or at least what music wasnt recycled from OOT, even tho MM is recycled from ocarina, it is still a good game, tho IMO not as good, and polished, as OOT
yogaman
March 8th, 2002, 03:55
well to make it short:
1) OOT (the ultimative ZELDA game)
2) Nes - the legend of Zelda (the unique zelda)
3) snes - link to the past (a bit annoying)
4) all GB zeldas (well, they are very similar)
5) sucking nes' zelda 2
ups forgot to put Mom in the list (right after oot) - well disappointing because made in a rush ... but cool characters such STALKID WITH MASK (Yogaman avatar (TM))
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