orbitaldecay
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Are there any plans to implement any network multiplayer features in any upcoming releases of mupen?
Internet Multiplayer?
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orbitaldecay
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No apologies necessary, I'm a programmer and I was considering tinkering with it myself, I was just wondering if anyone else already had the idea in the works. :bouncy:
Well then, let me be the first to say welcome aboard. 
As far as dev. progress on netplay, Okaygo had been responsible for the Mupen64k netplay build using kaillera. Sadly he lost the source and open kaillera does not seem to have a bright future due to license issues with the new kaillera owner.
To that end, it was suggested we pick another cross-platform netplay library. I wasn't aware of any, but Slougi knew of a few and gave me some links in IRC. Since I'm not a networking expert, nor really in a position to test which was better, I decided to focus my efforts elsewhere.
I'd suggest you help with the porting efforts since if we have a single codebase building and working (to some degree) on all three major platforms (Linux, Win32, and OSX) we'd be in a better situation to evaluate and implement netplay.
As far as dev. progress on netplay, Okaygo had been responsible for the Mupen64k netplay build using kaillera. Sadly he lost the source and open kaillera does not seem to have a bright future due to license issues with the new kaillera owner.To that end, it was suggested we pick another cross-platform netplay library. I wasn't aware of any, but Slougi knew of a few and gave me some links in IRC. Since I'm not a networking expert, nor really in a position to test which was better, I decided to focus my efforts elsewhere.
I'd suggest you help with the porting efforts since if we have a single codebase building and working (to some degree) on all three major platforms (Linux, Win32, and OSX) we'd be in a better situation to evaluate and implement netplay.
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orbitaldecay
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Yes, I've been looking over the source from the svn and I was thinking SDL_net might be a nice choice being as that mupen already uses SDL for input and video
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orbitaldecay
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Yeah, win32 and posix sockets aren't difficult to port between either, the function names are mostly the same. What issues with SDL_net have you experienced and/or heard of?
The only objection I have towards SDL_net is its low-level, but so is posix sockets (and win32 is basically the same since MS took that from BSD). I actally think SDL_net is a good cross-platform library as that's what Blizzard uses.
However, ideally we wouldn't have to re-invent the wheel and could use a higher level library that could handle some of the synchronization issues with actual gameplay and some of the lobby functions necessary to find and initiate multiplayer itself.
However, ideally we wouldn't have to re-invent the wheel and could use a higher level library that could handle some of the synchronization issues with actual gameplay and some of the lobby functions necessary to find and initiate multiplayer itself.
Wow, I didn't know that.
SDL_Net is OK, but compared to the native libraries it lacks a lot.
Well, if we want it to be as optimal as possible, no. Since for this type of netplay not much can be done for optimization, using another networking library with a crapload of functions for syncing sprites and other things would be useless, and maybe even limit our ability to minimize bandwidth.
That said, most optimization techniques i can think of are at a higher level than the packets themselves, like buffering input + zlib.
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Yeah everyone knows that...
There is even "Mupen64k" which is basically the old version of Mupen64 that has Kaillera support in it. But it's not being worked on anymore AFAIK and it's from a different guy than the Mupen64Plus team. And again it's only the old version of Mupen64.
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http://kaillera.movsq.net/temp/n02_scG.png
http://kaillera.movsq.net/temp/n02_scI.png
may not work with emulinker and emulinker sf server since theyre both incomplete
http://kaillera.movsq.net/temp/n02_scI.png
may not work with emulinker and emulinker sf server since theyre both incomplete
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civilian0746
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It's not a KDE port but thanks for the attempted compliment. Kaillera is indeed limited. I'm also working towards a replacement in my spare time. Being a full time student sucks.
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civilian0746
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Totally dood. My own widgets...my own windoing system... my own version of X...my own version of distro...everything was coded from scratch... also my own designed hardware...even the cpus used on the computers the package was developed in were made on my handmade microchip factory...
No I'm not that retarded. That cute little windowing system is part of a package called juce. It was the smallest and the best looking one among all the ones I've tried. Those windows and everything look identical in windows and mac as well. I should really be thanking juce... I didn't port that client to linux for the longest time because of the gui ambiguity stuff.
No I'm not that retarded. That cute little windowing system is part of a package called juce. It was the smallest and the best looking one among all the ones I've tried. Those windows and everything look identical in windows and mac as well. I should really be thanking juce... I didn't port that client to linux for the longest time because of the gui ambiguity stuff.