New plugin

[linker]

Yeah, I know that there are many of them, but here it is ... grab it.
P.S. Use it in wireframes mode.

[mesman00]

details?

[sk8bloke22]

if this is a virus im gonna kick ur arse.

[linker]

Originally posted by sk8bloke22
if this is a virus im gonna kick ur arse.
Yep, it's a virus.

[Remote]

It's not a virus, it runs Mario Kart and Pilotwings wireframed very nicely... Good work linker, it looks like if it's going to be a great year for Nintendo 64 emulation:D

[linker]

Thank you remote, Yep, i'm very happy actually. I just love the emulation. That's why I decided that I can make something cool.

[Remote]

One thing that crossed my mind is that your plugin doesn't have the shutting down problem that Orkin's OGL plugin is having, no problems what so ever starting and ending emulation in Project64 with the rombrowser enabled...

[2fast4u]

it crashed internet explorer when i launched a rom with it. :happy: still, this is a nice start. not to mention how great it is to have another plug-in in the works! :)

[linker]

Originally posted by Remote
One thing that crossed my mind is that your plugin doesn't have the shutting down problem that Orkin's OGL plugin is having, no problems what so ever starting and ending emulation in Project64 with the rombrowser enabled...

Actually there were some problems. After 1 hour of hard work :) it decided to work.

[Eddy]

linker i am happy to hear another plugin is in the works. Thanks :D

[Eikef7]

Nice work! Keep it up.
Here's a screen of Starfox in game.:hehe:

[Trotterwatch]

That screenshot would be perfect if it were in green instead of blue. It would then be like a modern version of Mercenary :-)

Good work on the plug in btw

[crhylove]

i m absolutely ecstatic about all the new gfx plugin activity! Are any of these plugins going to be open source? /me thinks that might speed dev, as well as foster learning in the community.

wtg man!

rhy

[linker]

Soon colours will be implented.

[jih2000]

Glad to see some cool plugins being made,

I reckon u should go open source like Dave2000, jabos died and no one could fix the remaining games or do optimisations :(

As you and orkin are both doing opengl and have started roughly the same time, maybe u should join forces and make one OpenN64 Graphix plugin that everyone contributes towards and things will speed up a lot, you never know, icep8 and azimer may join instead of making a 100 plugins, a standard one may dev. fast as lots of ppl work on it :)

Cheers 4 the cool plug neway.

Marty

[Slougi]

It's Dave2001 not Dave2000.

And too many cooks will spoil the soup. (Finnish saying, duno if used in english as well)

;)

[EeeK]

Yeah make it open source and join forces with Orkin since both are OpenGL API.

May the force be you.

[crhylove]

i believe it's "Too many cooks spoil the broth". My favorite though is "Never look a gift horse in the mouth." i mean, if you don't look your gift horse in the mouth, it may die of some curable disease, so that's a real "double edged sword". Oh well, better to have that bird in hand than in the bush, right?

/me doesn't fall far from the tree.

:devil:

[Smiff]

hey crhylove, one in the bird's worth two in the hand.

[linker]

Here are some colours

[linker]

Mario with opened eyes (ok, these are not real colours).

[pj64er]

Originally posted by Slougi
And too many cooks will spoil the soup. (Finnish saying, duno if used in english as well)

;)

its "Too many cooks spoils the soup". The situations good the way it is now: Many cooks with many soups. Non of which are spoiled;)


jih2000: Jabo died!?!?

[pj64er]

linker, consider this (http://www.emutalk.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4458).

looks like Hacktarux needs some of that soup ;)

[Hitman]

Its too many cooks spoil the broth.

Collaborate guys. Lets get an openGL plug that's got 2 committed coders behind it rather than 2 with 1 coder behind each of them.
Or at least let each other have each others source for ideas or inspiration.

All i'm really waiting for is Banjo Tooie to work. I'll play it even if it has choppy graphics and stuttery sound...

Come on Apollo64 !

[sk8bloke22]

its up to the authors individual choice. maybe orkin/linker dont want join up, maybe they do. it aint ur problem

[Ogy]

crhylove: if you knew this and was kidding i apologize, but "Never look a gift horse in the mouth." is a spanish saying that means that if you got something as a present don't look for faults (because the only way to determine a horse's age is by looking at his teeth)

and now about the topic:
i agree totally about joining forces and open source. one of the main reasons dave has come so far in such short time is because he opened the source and had a lot of helpers.

[Dave2001]

Yes, open source definately helps. I have several people contributing to my project. Anyway, good luck!

by the way: most of the colors on mario objects are generated by lighting, not through vertex colors

[crhylove]

Hence the whole little anecdote about horse mouth gazing and such.

I agree Dave, as i see it, non commercial projects always die unless they are open source, and i've never heard of a commercial emu. although maybe pj64's post donated members only beta testing may have been close (that's no criticism, just a technicality of verbage).

think how much farther the whole community would be if corn would have been open source, or if uhle would have been open source. i mean, obviously this is totally up to the author(s), and the best thing is the many soups equation we are suddenly enjoying, but i think that the feedback that jabo, schibo, rice, and other 733+ hackers can give back to plugin coders would be more valuable than any kind of proprietary source imho. speaking of open source and jabo.....:blush: yeah, i know, i know, as i said this is TOTALLY up to the authors, but when you look at what the GODS of coding have done (id, and carmack specifically), it really sets a moral precedent at least in my mind.

if commercialism is not the point, then obviously aiding the rest of mankind with your code, and hence your time, and hence part of your very life, is a good thing. when you are ready.

i just think that it'd be exciting to have a n64 emu that was closer to ZSNES stats before the ps2 emus start kicking our ass. there are many, many awesome games that are completely unemulated afaik, and emulation is a way for us to carry those games onto future generations of players, when actual consoles are relegated to hobbyists and collectors, as is currently the case with the original NES, and why i find fce ultra (esp. the latest .76) to be such a valuable part of communicating our human history to the future.

and before you start railing me saying wtf have YOU done for humanity, i'm no coder, i'm just an enthusiast (round here), but i have donated LOTS of my human life on many many musical projects, which is more where my talents lie. there are many freely available examples @:

http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/194/communizt_vagina.html

and

http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/125/rhy.html

and my long distance carrier is http://www.workingassets.com/

oh yeah, and this is a good idea for starters:
http://www.emutalk.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4458

maybe start with dave's plugin and unglide it? i don't know nothin' bout codin' so if this is a lame idea, drive to riverside and shoot my ass.:inlove:

:devil:

[The Khan Artist]

First of all, there have been commercial emus. Bleem! and Connectix VGS for the PSX. But nothing for the N64.

Second, I think porting Glide64 to OpenGL is a great idea. That'swhat I'm studying right now. :) But don't expect anything, 'cause I'm kinda new to 3D.

[sk8bloke22]

yeh, that would be amazing. and it we geforce users can be patient as we hav sooo many plugins to be testing in the mean time ;)

[Orkin]

Good work linker, looks like you've got a good start! :colgate:

And for those calling for us to join forces...I'd wrather work on my own. It's not that I have anything against linker, I just find it easier to get things accomplished when I have full control over a project.

As far as open source and sharing of findings/ideas go, I'm all for it. I was already planning on going open source, I just didn't bother on my first release since there wasn't much there anyway.

Orkin

[linker]

First I decided to port dave's plugin, but then I decided to write my own.
About the open source: yea, I like it. But please wait. Maybe I'll show it sometime later :).
Dave: I know that most of the colors on mario objects are generated by lighting, not through vertex colors :), but I just hated that pink (or whatever) colour is.

[linker]

Originally posted by Orkin
Good work linker, looks like you've got a good start! :colgate:

And for those calling for us to join forces...I'd wrather work on my own. It's not that I have anything against linker, I just find it easier to get things accomplished when I have full control over a project.

As far as open source and sharing of findings/ideas go, I'm all for it. I was already planning on going open source, I just didn't bother on my first release since there wasn't much there anyway.

Orkin

Same thing here

[crhylove]

/me is in awe of the sudden explosion of emu coding going on.

yay!
:colgate:
:1964:

[Renegade]

...almost professional.

[Azimer]

I am not in the least suprised. Especially with the attention Dave's plugin has gotten. The publicity isn't all it's cracked up to be. Besides... reinventing the wheel a few dozen times doesn't make a perfect wheel. Only by fixing the imperfections does a perfect wheel develop. That is my hope for all new developers. Good luck!

[linker]

Originally posted by Azimer
....That is my hope for all new developers. Good luck!

Thank you Azimer :).

[pj64er]

Originally posted by Azimer
I am not in the least suprised. Especially with the attention Dave's plugin has gotten. The publicity isn't all it's cracked up to be. Besides... reinventing the wheel a few dozen times doesn't make a perfect wheel. Only by fixing the imperfections does a perfect wheel develop. That is my hope for all new developers. Good luck!

speaking of which, hows your wheel coming?

[linker]

I have been extremely busy this week so I haven't worked much on the plugin (actually I had some free time today - about 1-2 hours). You can see some progress (can you?) on the pics.

[linker]

Some Wireframes:

[linker]

Again banjo:

[Slougi]

Very nice going linker. :)

[Doomulation]

Verrrry, very nice progress.
(I really wished I could do this :D ) oh, j/k
Hehe...
Keep it up ;)

[linker]

Thanx

[Cyberman]

Originally posted by linker
Thanx

I like the feature of colored wireframe (it doesn't look like tron that way ;)). hmmm what would be cool is a 'debugger' version of PJ64 you can control when it sends DLists etc. for the plugin.

Anywho...

Cyb

[Renegade]

you know a plugin is progressing well when you don't get the kind of talk that happens in lightknight's emulatore threads... :o

[sk8bloke22]

and u hav the proof. lol

[Azimer]

Jabo's D3D has this feature. Click wireframe in the options.


Originally posted by Cyberman


I like the feature of colored wireframe (it doesn't look like tron that way ;)). hmmm what would be cool is a 'debugger' version of PJ64 you can control when it sends DLists etc. for the plugin.

Anywho...

Cyb

[The Khan Artist]

So does Dave's Glide3 plug, just do wireframe's with either original colors or vertex colors.

[Cyberman]

ACTUALLY, that's the plugin, what I ment is prior to recieving the DLIST for your plugin you can stop execution and examine the status of the N64. This is not something you can do with the plugin :bunny:

Cyb

[zilmar]

pj64 has breakpoints which stop the system and examine the status of the N64, other then u have to be in the interruptor. If you stop inside the plugin at the start of the dlist, then you still can use the debugger to look at the memory, registers, etc ...

[linker]

Originally posted by zilmar
pj64 has breakpoints which stop the system and examine the status of the N64, other then u have to be in the interruptor. If you stop inside the plugin at the start of the dlist, then you still can use the debugger to look at the memory, registers, etc ...

Yep :satisfied.

[FireBone]

hi linker, your plugin is nice, when comes a new release?
have you a icq adress? (sorry for my bad english)

[linker]

I don't think there will be new release soon. Ye, I can give you my ICQ number, but some time later (now I'm at school :))

[linker]

<Linker> 157772039

[FireBone]

thx for the icq number but are you anytime onine?
can i be a beta testr for you?
please i like test new things...

[pj64er]

ur not supposed to ask that :)

[Eddy]

46 posts. what can you expect pj :)

[Slougi]

Yeah but he is a member since a long time.

[linker]

I answered him three times...

[FireBone]

mh, ok
can you tell me if i can test it or if i can be a beta tester?
sorry for the stupid qustion :)
(Slougi wann bist du in icq online?)
sorry for my bad english

[pj64er]

someone explain the rules to firebone in German

[Dave2001]

1 DO NOT ask to be beta tester

2 DO NOT ask for the next release

:P

I got this from the other thread you asked to be a beta tester in! Enough!

Sorry, don't know german though :P

[pj64er]

dave, i wrote that :P

[FireBone]

sorry, for asking i have forgot that i am not allowed to ask for it....
sorry for my bad stupid english.....

[linker]

I forgive you

LOL :)

[linker]

And BTW.... just don't tell me that you are lightknight with a new nickname.

[pj64er]

hes not. he has not said 'emulatore' in three posts. thats enough proof for me.

[linker]

LOL
aahh, and btw.. enough with this OFF Topic

[FireBone]

hey...
i am not lightknight!
i am a emufan and i am here since a long time.
i like emulation and thats the reason that i have ask...
sorry for my stupid bad english...

[h-e-l-l-o]

Originally posted by pj64er
someone explain the rules to firebone in German

Ok:P

1.Frag nicht on du beta-tester werden kannst

2.Frag nicht wann die nächste version rauskommt

[Slougi]

3) Entschuldige dich nicht die ganze zeit fuer dein englisch ;) Kaum einer spricht perfektes englisch hier.

[FireBone]

ja ich weis aber ich bin so....
yes i know but i am so....

[Slougi]

lol
hey ganz locker bleiben :)

[mesman00]

back to english please :)

[pj64er]

lol, u guys are a bit too late :)

[FireBone]

german is a wonderfull language :)
are anyone german here?

[2fast4u]

yep, i am. but i personally think german sucks. i wouldnt wanna learn all this grammar shit for the sake of knowing a foreign language. stick to english, everyone here can understand it.

[crhylove]

german has it's attributes, but having taken it in school, and having been around the planet, speaking english almost everywhere with fairly easy communication, i'd have to say that the sooner EVERYBODY speaks english, the better for all humanity. (barriers to communication abound WITHOUT all kinds of seperate languages). the only real reason i'd nominate english is it's current dominance (globally) particularly in india where over 1/3 of the population lives anyway.

i of course make some exception for what passes as "english" in texas and other places.... i'm deeply sorry about all that.

rhy

[linker]

Did I say something... stop it! If you want to talk go to the "Talk of the town" section.

[FireBone]

OK, sorry.
Please forgive me....