XBox vs. PS2 vs. Gamecube

[Shane O Mac]

PS2 Is da best! it beats gamecube and xbox! would u rather have an xbox with all these unknown game titles or would u play a ps2 with sick games! like metal gear solid 2 smackdown just bring it and crash bandicoot. why waste ur money on a xbox when ps2 is da best!

[sytaylor]

Originally posted by Shane O Mac
PS2 Is da best! it beats gamecube and xbox! would u rather have an xbox with all these unknown game titles or would u play a ps2 with sick games! like metal gear solid 2 smackdown just bring it and crash bandicoot. why waste ur money on a xbox when ps2 is da best!

why have false loyalty to such a ficle industry? have you ever played anything on the xbox? at least its being origional... look at the ps2's killer apps and tell me if youve played them before somewhere... GT3,GTA3,SD3jbi,MGS2... and so on

[Jfletcher]

:lookaway: :lookaway: :lookaway: The more competition the better the games. I could care less if it's made by M$. I love XP (Not one crash in 2 months!!)

[Shane O Mac]

Are the original games good?? i bet not. WWF raw is war on xbox looks crap and they walk funny n that while on WWF: JBI on ps2 its all properly made with more things in it than the xbox

[jaggy]

Originally posted by Shane O Mac
Are the original games good?? i bet not. WWF raw is war on xbox looks crap and they walk funny n that while on WWF: JBI on ps2 its all properly made with more things in it than the xbox

It's nice to see that your basing your judgement on such profound facts :lookaway:

I don't mean any offense if it isn't the case, so pardon if it isn't, but you sure sound like a fanboy to me.

[bodie]

i have always loved all things sony .but you have to tip your hat to microsofts x-box , some of the movies i have seen from the games beggars belief ..the detail in most of them is simply amazing ,and you have to remember this the first generation of games for the system ..sony does have some great games like GT3/SSX/JAX & DAXTER/TIME CRISIS 2 and will always do well because it's got a loyal following and a huge user base .but those x-box graphics are something else.and no jaggies too:)..
bodie

[Raging Fuel]

I sure hope this guy isn't serious. I've got no problem with people liking whatever system they want, but saying the others are crap with such weak explanations is just stupid. 'Oh, I've heard of these games so they must be good'. What about when the PSX first started out? Was Crash crap then because you'd never heard of him? And by the way, Crash is coming to both Xbox and GC, and MGSX is going to Xbox.

[bodie]

well lets hope they all sell well.it's nice to have a choice :D

[blizz]

Originally posted by bodie
some of the movies i have seen from the games beggars belief ..the detail in most of them is simply amazing ,and you have to remember this the first generation of games for the system

all developers could do that given time money and power, especially the big ones on the PS2, the Gamecube can do that too (and if you've seen the ghost effects in Luigis Mansion you know what I mean), it certainly is powerful enough, and members of Team Ninja (the guys who did DOA3) think so too.

[jaggy]

Originally posted by blizz


all developers could do that given time money and power, especially the big ones on the PS2, the Gamecube can do that too (and if you've seen the ghost effects in Luigis Mansion you know what I mean), it certainly is powerful enough, and members of Team Ninja (the guys who did DOA3) think so too.

That's just it, in all three cases the systems DO have the power, but it's all in how the developers use that power. In that sense, the gamecube and the xbox have an advantage over the ps2, because of ease of development.

But in the end it all falls down to the games a system has, however hard or easy they were to make, and as I see at the moment one can't go wrong with either console.

[TheWizard112]

sorry but gamecube is far better then the xbox and ps2. the gba in only a few months has even sold more then the ps2 has in a year and a half. i personally see nothing for either the xbox or ps2 that makes me wish i had one. gamecube on the other hand is coming out with many titles that i am looking forward to.

[jaggy]

Originally posted by TheWizard112
sorry but gamecube is far better then the xbox and ps2. the gba in only a few months has even sold more then the ps2 has in a year and a half. i personally see nothing for either the xbox or ps2 that makes me wish i had one. gamecube on the other hand is coming out with many titles that i am looking forward to.

That's just fine and dandy that your opinion is that the gamecube is better, but that's all it is, an opinion. I myself prefer the Xbox to the gamecube having played them side by side, but I'm not about to say that everyone should agree with me, obviously.

And the fact that you don't see any games worthwhile for you on the xbox and the ps2 is completely valid, the more reason not to get them i suppose! :colgate: but I'm not about to bash you for your preference of a system over another, too much of that has been going on lately.

[Method Man]

I with X-Box because if you think about how powerful the x-box is imagine what game companies such asSega Sports (http://www.segasports.com) can do.They can take advantage of the X-Box hardware and make the levels look more realistic and add more details....

[pj64er]

Originally posted by TheWizard112
sorry but gamecube is far better then the xbox and ps2. the gba in only a few months has even sold more then the ps2 has in a year and a half. i personally see nothing for either the xbox or ps2 that makes me wish i had one. gamecube on the other hand is coming out with many titles that i am looking forward to.

none of the three can be far better at this point, they all hav their strengths and weaknesses. More time is needed to judge which one is better. ne1 saying one is far better than the others just has blind faith.


oh, im also rooting for gamecube...;)

[Renegade]

GAMECUBE RULED OVER BY X-BOX???????


tell that to the fans of Super Smash Bros. : Melee!
oh, hell yeah!

[Macca]

i would have to agree with that :D

All in all i think the gc will have the best games. maybe not the best graphic (probably the xbox) or the most games (that goes to the ps2) but the best games. I classify the best as not graphics, as gameplay. Gameplay is alot more important than graphics. Look at the snes, many, including me say it is one of the best consoles and that is not for its graphics :D

I belive that the GC might not come up top in selling figures (though i think it is doing the best now, not sure tho) but it will be my choice for the next gen console :colgate:

[Slougi]

Look at the snes, many, including me say it is one of the best consoles and that is not for its graphics
It's not one of the best consoles, it's THE best. Never gonna have as much fun on any other console ;)

[pj64er]

SNES did hav the best gfx for its time:)

[Macca]

yeh of course it did but what i was saying is that even now with the psx, 64, gc and xbox many people still like the SNES the most because they are smart and chose gameplay over graphics :)

[RPGlover12]

well snes is the best system ever
and will always be
noother
i dont care about the graphics
only the gameplay
and the graphics aren't that bad
its 2d
and not bad
its great
and got many good games that i liked
like
chrono trigger, bof1,2 , starocean , treasure hunt, and many more
they are all kickass
and esp. the rpgs
they are the best
and this console is the best rpg console ever
:)

[sk8bloke22]

pc is the best console eva. u can play snes, genesis, gameboy, gamegear, gba, psx, sega mastersystem, n64 and pc games.

[RPGlover12]

Originally posted by sk8bloke22
pc is the best console eva. u can play snes, genesis, gameboy, gamegear, gba, psx, sega mastersystem, n64 and pc games.
man u dont get it
he meant



console not
pc
get it
so we are talking about consoles
still snes is the best
:)

[nycbeatatl]

I would go with the Gamecube. Sure, I completely agree that the PS2 has great games. But no offense, the graphics just aren't anything compared to GC and Xbox. The jaggies would drive me mad after a while. As for the Xbox, I love the beautiful visuals, but the darn system has nothing for gameplay. Don't even talk about Halo, it's very annoying when it's mentioned OVER and OVER. You can give me the best game in the world and have it be perfect, but in the end, it's still just ONE game. I need a variety of fun games. The Gamecube has great visuals, (if you don't believe me, check out the water effects in Mario Sunshine), and it has great games like Mario, Zelda, Metroid Prime, Resident Evil, and more. That's just my 50 cents, but the
PS2=Gameplay
Xbox=Graphics
Gamecube=Great mix of both

[UltraThing]

I have a Gamecube and an Xbox both. Although i just got the XBox and have had the Gamecube since launch, I can say that the Gamecube is the favorite OVERALL> however .... even though I think the Gamecube has the better catalog there are some great exclusives on Xbox or I wouldn't have bothered. I am absolutely LOVING Sega GT2002 .... the GC hasn't had much to offer in the racing genre, while GT2002 is the tits boys! All by itself it makes me happy I bought the Xbox, but I'm also looking forward to Halo, Panzer Dragoon Orta, MechAssault and Deathrow. And Project Gotham Racing comes out some time in 03 to fire me back up after I destroy GT2002.

On the other hand, I tried GranTurismo3 on a friend's PS2 on New Year's Eve ... compared to GT2002, that game is a huge yawn. Jaggy, boring and unrealistic.

[AlphaWolf]

I haven't owned any consoles since snes, and I am planning on getting an xbox.

The games are good, the xbox's hardware is capable of a lot more than gc and ps2, (just have a look at splinter cell, and the fact that ID will not release doom3 for any console except the xbox) but that aside, I like what you can do with it.

You don't even have to futs with DVDs and whatnot, because you can put all of your games on the hard drive, (big plus for me because I hate discs of any kind, in fact I don't even use any for my PCs), and the price alone is worth its DVD functions twofold. The thing practicaly gives the same visual quality as those $600 progressive DVD players. Not only that but it also works as a good mp3/divx player, and it has optical toslink (spdif if you mod it or buy an adapter) out for dolby digital 5.1 in everything as well.

To me the fact that it plays games is just an added bonus. No other console offers anything else I mentioned. Especialy gamecube, with no DVD support.

http://www.webwombat.com.au/lifestyle/general/xboxdvd.htm
and yes, xbox does progressive DVD once you mod it :D

[sytaylor]

based on games alone, of the current consoles the ps2 wins hands down for me.. in the areas that matter to me

Driving
Kill, Steal and become a Crime Lord
Footie
Other sports sim


the ps2 has it all, from grand tourismo.. gta:vc/getaway (kickass game), iss, and it even has virtua tennis 2! so i dont have to load my dc as much as i used to (with limited televisions there was a lot fo cable swapping)

[B*A*G*G]

my xbox dosent make a good DVD player from my experience.
there are alot of dvd's that my xbox wont load at all (it wont even load my special edition lord of the rings dvd :geek: ).
but then again i bought mine at launch and im sure the re'versions fix those problems.

[Allnatural]

Anyone notice how old this thread is?

nycbeatatl: Why the hell...?

[jvolel]

Xbox (the system itself) is good/great, ps2 is good/ok, and game cube is good/ok..

GAMECUBE :

- Don't like the fact that gamecube isn't going to have HD support, (well doesn't seem like its going to have that supported).

- Don't like the fact that the broadband adapter and the narrow band adapter are separate.

- Love the wireless controller called wave bird, :flowers: :inlove: .

- Some games are great/good most are ok.

- Dislike the (cd/disk whatever u want to call it) format... I understand that they made the disk smaller to ward of piracy but I mean... meh... then again there could always be multi disk games i.e. resident evil 0.

- Nearly non-existent online gameplay strategy.

- Good/great first party games (would u expect anything less from one of the best developers in the world? I THINK NOT :P )

XBOX

- Strong system can handle damn near anything you throw at it so of course I like that. Just don't like the way M$ does business. Monopolies are baaaad maaan

- Good/great online gameplay plan, 50 dollars a year! What are they nuts? And the service is free now I hear (think about that when you own more then one online game that requires a fee to pay online ;) ).

- At one point had great emulation support (well if you have an older xbox :pirate: :devil: ).

- More then few of the games kind of sucked arse but it had a few good/great ones (and some interesting upcoming games *cough* fable *cough* seduki (sp?) *cough* whatever else am missing).

- Can't go wrong with HD support.. Hell what other system had that... though I question whether or not it was a good idea having it built in... Should have been included as an optional add on

- Didn't like the controller at first till I saw the mini version of it, now it’s not bad not bad at all.

- DVD playback support hell I think it supports all video file types no?

- Sometimes gets the best version of multiplatform games, in terms of graphics, added content...ECT

- Haven’t played any first party games...

PS2

- Great idea having backwards compatibility loved that

- Love the controller (best made imo aside from the n64 controller)

- Ok online gaming plan, love the fact that the broadband adapter supports narrow and broadband

- DVD/music cd playback support ^_^ :happy:

- Future support for HD? Good idea having it as an add-on instead of it being built in... Am assuming you can buy HD's with more space like your comp?

- Usually gets their version of a game before the other consoles (that’s good and bad at the same time you should know why)

- Good/ok first party games

- ZOE 2! :happy: Devil may cry 2 :happy: VF4 and tekken 4 ^_^ final fantasy whatever ^_^ and many more good/great games :holiday:

[vampireuk]

For anyone who hasnt tried a x-box just play Halo *drool*

I normally hate FPS on a console but I lub Halo:happy:

[ScottJC]

I think being loyal to one console is now stupid, I used to be loyal to nintendo, but now i got a ps2, I love it as well, both the ps2 and gamecube are good consoles in my opinion, I might buy an xbox as well, I want em all :D

[AlphaWolf]

Originally posted by sytaylor
Kill, Steal and become a Crime Lord


Especialy the kill, steal, and become a crime lord part :)


Originally posted by B*A*G*G
my xbox dosent make a good DVD player from my experience.
there are alot of dvd's that my xbox wont load at all (it wont even load my special edition lord of the rings dvd :geek: ).
but then again i bought mine at launch and im sure the re'versions fix those problems.

Actualy, I've been reading on usenet that there are a disproportionately large number of DVD player models besides the xbox that don't work with disc 1 of the LOTR extended edition set. The word is that you need to use dvd x-copy to create a new, more compatible disc that works on every dvd player.

Have a look: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=lotr+dvd+compatibility&btnG=Google+Search

And the MPAA still says theres no legitimate use for copying DVDs... :rolleyes:

[Jaz]

At the moment, as much as I hate M$, the X-Box and GC are both level-pegging in second place, behind PS2, IMO. I've got nothing against GC, it's a great console, but at the moment there is nothing on there that makes me personally want one.

For now, Madden 2003 on PS2 is about the only game I'll be playing. :happy:

[UltraThing]

FWIW, my Xbox, manufactured 10-18-02, plays the LOTR Fellowship extended edition just fine.

[vampireuk]

Everyone should have a X-Box as a pet :happy:

[ra5555]

LMAO!!! :happy:

paying M$ to for a pet.......<_<

[AlphaWolf]

Originally posted by UltraThing
FWIW, my Xbox, manufactured 10-18-02, plays the LOTR Fellowship extended edition just fine.

Either that or the specific disc you have is one of the good ones.

[AlphaWolf]

Originally posted by UltraThing
I'm also looking forward to Halo, Panzer Dragoon Orta, MechAssault and Deathrow.

No shitting about panzer dragoon, I just played that game for the first time, one of the better games I've seen in years.

[blizz]

Originally posted by AlphaWolf
No shitting about panzer dragoon, I just played that game for the first time, one of the better games I've seen in years.

ok where were you when the saturn came out?

[apexad]

First off, let me talk about Gamecube.

The only good games it has is Nintendo's exclusive titles. I personally got sick of Mario back in NES days, which is why I never owned an SNES. Never played Metroid, and seeing it on Gamecube sure as hell does not prompt me to go play a shittier version on snes.
The other thing about Gamecube that ticks me off is the connectivity with GBA. Nintendo dominates the Portable market, that is a given. To use that to promote their console, is just wrong in my opinion. You can talk all day about MS monopolies, but MS is still losing money on XBox, and if Nintendo is losing money on GC they are making it up on the GC's they'll be selling as they make GBA a needed addon for it.
Another for all you Gamecube users out there is 1 simple fact. Microsoft bought Rare! They aren't making Gamecube games anymore. Hope you like Starfox Adventures!
The next thing about Gamecube is the whole anti-piracy thing. About all you can do is switch it from JAP to USA. I don't care if piracy makes companies lose money, the fact of the matter is piracy sells consoles. it is as simple as that.
The other thing, Gamecube with obvious differences, is much like a Mac, in that it uses an ATi chipset (very common in macs) and a PowerPC Processor. If they would have chose to make it a DVD drive, it may have had a chance to compare to the linux running abilitles of both xbox and ps2. (LinuxPPC does exist).
The other thing people love to xream out GBA is the wavebird. No rumble support because the battery pack is in the way (or because it uses batteries up to quick, I forgot which). I have a solution, it is called an on/off switch.
No back-lit GBA and now a non-rumble controller in a world where almost every game relased has rumble support?
Nintendo is getting so hungry for money that they are leaving out such good things. (GBA SP= more money on the same shitty GBA spec btw, so don't get me started on that)
Lastly, XBox nearly jumped ahead of Gamecube in November. It does not matter where you look, XBox is suppose to pull ahead of gamecube in 2003. (it won't touch PS2, and my reasoning for that will come in my PS2 bashing post)
Another thing is the simple fact of backwars compatibility. PS2 plays dvds released years ago, and it plays psx games. Due to the marvels of a modchip XBox plays DVDS out of the box, and it playes arcade games, snes, atari, dos games,game boy games, and so much more.
The other thing is the simple fact that Nintendo does not have the older market at all. GBA SP is taregted at older audiences. Ninteno is sold to kids much more then adults. N64 was killed by PSX in sales because people over 25 bought PSX, brand new. PS2 stays above for the same reasons, and when DOAX and XBox does not have this problem (considering DOAX is top sold, and it has a +17 rating).
Finally, most people who bought Gamecube at launch are Nintendo fan boys. They'll but out they're gamecube and play metroid, and go look, this is not on ps2 or xbox. So what, halo is not on ps2 or gc. gta3 is not on xbox or gc.

So, in conclusion, in my opinion, Nintendo's last good system was N64. Until they improve they are image, the are destined to become the next sega, with the exception that the portable market profits will always hold them up.

[apexad]

Now for PS2 (don't worry, as you can see, it is shorter than my Gamecube bashing).

PS2 has onlie support, it has exclusives that rock all (GTA3 is the best game I have playe d in a long long time). It plays DVDs, and it plays old PSX games. It's wireless controllers though not made by Sony fit smoothly into your hands, and have rumble support with an on/off switch. Like PSX, it's library of games overcasts xbox and gc's, making a wide selection of ps2 games easy to come by, even if they only cost $20 a peice and are not the best graphically pleasing games you've ever seen in a market where that is becoming more and more important.

Basically, I liked N64 alot, but I was 14 the last time I played it (the real system anyway, the pc version of it are a bit different of a story), and hated PSX for beating it.
But, I must say, Sony knows what they are doing, and with official support for Linux and a 40GB hard drive, and unofficial mod chips for hacks of games and stuff, I want a PS2! (Luckily right now my roomate in college has one, and I have an xbox, the best combination)

So in the end, that was not bashing at all. PS2 is a great system, true competition for XBox.

[apexad]

Now, for XBox. Yes I own it, however it has flaws.

1. M$, yuck I know, I bought a Mac to get away from windows and ending up getting vpc to get windows back, not to mention ms office.

2. Don't remember where I read this, but I heard M$ designed xbox to get hacked so that they could run tests and stuff to imporve palladium they're total domination hardware/software coming in the future.

3. no out of the box dvd support (modchip or dvd kit needed) Although they did for awhile give you the $30 back for the dvd kit.

4. blah blah blah, XBox has better graphics then PS2, and it's own set of exlucive games (Halo, DOA3 & X).

Go with XBox and PS2,that is my 2 cents.

(sorry it took 3 posts)

[Macca]

you have a few good points there but ijust wanna ask a simple question.

does everyone think that the average consumer will be using the xbox to its full potential. I'm talking bout running multiple emulators, using linux and playing divx. it is a great thing to have but realistically how many people are going to be doing all of this? i'm guessing only a very small percentage, i mean you ould od similar stuff on other consoles (emus for psx/ divx for dc) but only a minority of people ever use it. this is total curiosity but i dont think these abilities will be high up on the list of reasons why average joes buy an xbox.

pretty much all i'm saying is that these features are sweet as, but i dont think they will create much movement in sales. opinions please

[blizz]

Originally posted by apexad
(sorry it took 3 posts)

lol, god damm, you're an opinionated little sod aren't you?

1. I will not read long posts, just skim them
2. Rare is overrated by everyone, Insomniac Games are better imo (they did Ratchet and Clank and that shows how far they've improved since Spyro), maybe Microsoft can do a Bungie on them and get them to become more consistent with release dates and games, but god knows Rare shows some of the the worst traits of the UK game industry at times (that is a rant for another time)
3. You do realise that SEGA lost a hell of a lot of money to go third party (something Nintendo has yet to do)
4. saying your “three cents” doesn’t give license to post three posts
5. You're pissed you have to buy a GC and a GBA, yet no games actually use it as a necessity, erm what?

[blizz]

Originally posted by Macca
you have a few good points there but ijust wanna ask a simple question.

does everyone think that the average consumer will be using the xbox to its full potential. I'm talking bout running multiple emulators, using linux and playing divx. it is a great thing to have but realistically how many people are going to be doing all of this? i'm guessing only a very small percentage, i mean you ould od similar stuff on other consoles (emus for psx/ divx for dc) but only a minority of people ever use it. this is total curiosity but i dont think these abilities will be high up on the list of reasons why average joes buy an xbox.

pretty much all i'm saying is that these features are sweet as, but i dont think they will create much movement in sales. opinions please

yeah they're pretty much a minority group,

just as an aside with three decent consoles (none of them stands heads and shoulders above another imo) it's a pretty good time to be a hardcore gamer

[Macca]

Originally posted by apexad
Finally, most people who bought Gamecube at launch are Nintendo fan boys.
and did you know 87% of all statistics have no factual basis?


Originally posted by apexad
So what, halo is not on ps2 or gc. gta3 is not on xbox or gc.
I've played gta3 on ps2 and pc and i can tell you which version definately stands out. (its the PC if you didn't get my notion). along with the fact that halo and gta:vc are due for pc i have no need to buy an xbox/ps2 for those 3 games

oh and the whole gba/wavebird bashing...thats just silly. i mean no rumble is better than no wireless (if not then the wavebird would not but at all successful) and gba being a necessity? so far the only thing it does is enhance games (ie little secrets and fun tidbits)

[vampireuk]

Originally posted by Macca
and did you know 87% of all statistics have no factual basis?


of course he did 79% of people know that! ^_^

I stand by my X-Box lubbin, although the PC still owns it^_^

[Doomulation]

X-box sucks, 'nuff said. M$ didn't seem to realize they made it bad. It's powerful, but it's harder to make games for, it actually *lags* sometimes, too...

And more too it, as well.

[vampireuk]

I have never seen it lag, the games are fun and some are quite addictive.

Of course some people will instantly dismiss it because its microsoft:P

[blizz]

The lag is actually due to loading issues from the HD.

[AlphaWolf]

Originally posted by blizz
ok where were you when the saturn came out?

Who the fuck bought a saturn? :happy:

I know I've heard of panzer dragoon before, never played it til now though. Xbox makes that game look sweet. Maybe segas revenge on nintendo is to only release their better games for xbox?

[Harteex]

well that's your opinion, Doom...

Well, in normal cases the games don't touch the harddrive except when the games are saving... so if you play games from a real game disc, the hd should not make it lag...

and really, lag depends on the game...

[apexad]

PCs don't factor in to the eqaution. While it is true that a PC dominates, it is simply cost. I doubt Halo will require much more then a P3 -733Mhz PC with a Direct X Compatible video card, which currently is probably less then XBox, but typically, most PC's people buy cost alot more then a console, like XBox or PS2. Plus, there is an XBox emultor in progress that can Load Halo (no graphic display, it just understands the first few kernel calls).

And, while it is true that the majority of people will not mod there xboxes, because after all one of the huge selling points of xbox is xbox live, and that of course bans you if you have a modchip (of course there is always an off switch, something I have externally added to my matrix/xodus)

However, the pure fact that in can be modified will sell consoles to a marker not tapped by gamecube. Microsoft has other tricks up there sleeves to appeal to the same audiences game cube does, as well. At any rate, I am sure that everyone reading this most likely knows that the xbox can emulate all that stuff, and would have it do it if they got one.

Also, as far as developers go, anyone heard of Digital Anvil? Brute Force looks fucking awesome.

Finally, like vampireuk said, alot of people hate XBox just because it is made by M$. Something I can understand, but sometimes evil companies no what works. After all, the Origial PSX was a joint project with Nintendo, called SNES CD. When it was cancelled, the evil sony made their own system. We all know what happened with that.

[vampireuk]

Microsoft have done two good things, windows 2000 and X-Box^_^

[AlphaWolf]

I don't own any consoles except an snes, nes, and a gba, but xbox has definitely cought my attention, enough so that I plan on getting one. I've got both the perfect 5.1 system and hdtv for it, and some of the games are very decent looking. I mainly have other uses intended though, namely when modded it makes a better progressive dvd player than some of the $600+ models out there.


Originally posted by apexad

And, while it is true that the majority of people will not mod there xboxes, because after all one of the huge selling points of xbox is xbox live, and that of course bans you if you have a modchip (of course there is always an off switch, something I have externally added to my matrix/xodus)


On the contrary I have little to no interest in xbox live :cool:

[Vchat20]

Originally posted by AlphaWolf
On the contrary I have little to no interest in xbox live :cool:

Ah. but that isnt the same for every1 else here. Most of us (including me) would have a major interest in XBOX live. only prob is it needs a broadband connection, or at least some kind of network with internet access.

[apexad]

Originally posted by AlphaWolf
I don't own any consoles except an snes, nes, and a gba, but xbox has definitely cought my attention, enough so that I plan on getting one. I've got both the perfect 5.1 system and hdtv for it, and some of the games are very decent looking. I mainly have other uses intended though, namely when modded it makes a better progressive dvd player than some of the $600+ models out there.



On the contrary I have little to no interest in xbox live :cool:

With a modded on xbox, I have little interest in it as well (though as I said, Installed mod chip switches). However, the fact remains that XBox Live appeals more to the average Joe then PS2's network adapter. Whatever the reason is, it is reason none the less.

[blizz]

if you look at X-Box live figures though, it's still small, it's penetration of the X-Box market is high because the mass amount of people who bought the X-Box are hardcore/first adopters, thus it is relatively easy to see X-Box live achieving a large adoption rate early on

what is more interesting is it's future, security, both of the servers and of the users, which games companies utilise it in the future, I think the experiance Microsoft gains from X-Box live will be invaluable for the successor to the X-Box (which is coming sooner rather than later according to some reports)

Joe Average isn't the X-Box market imo, we're talking kids who buy Edge magazine here, we're not talking dad buying the console for his kids to play harry potter while he can play Vice City

the effective way to sell a console is word of mouth and the PS2 does that (I'd never have thought of Ace Combat if my friend hadn't recommended it to me), Metroid Prime has done that (but is still seen as the one game on the Gamecube)

[apexad]

Originally posted by blizz

the effective way to sell a console is word of mouth and the PS2 does that (I'd never have thought of Ace Combat if my friend hadn't recommended it to me), Metroid Prime has done that (but is still seen as the one game on the Gamecube)

Bingo! Sony has this mastered, with Nintendo coming in a solid second, but by the same token, I bet that many many people who get XBox, say win XP roxors, XBox sounds like XP, so it must roxor too. The average joe who does not understand all this monopoly stuff, cuz windows roxors. think about it.

[blizz]

Originally posted by apexad
Bingo! Sony has this mastered, with Nintendo coming in a solid second, but by the same token, I bet that many many people who get XBox, say win XP roxors, XBox sounds like XP, so it must roxor too. The average joe who does not understand all this monopoly stuff, cuz windows roxors. think about it.

the average person talks about how crap and unreliable computers are ingeneral

[Doomulation]

Besides, winxp does not *roxor*. It is merly the best os out there for those normal users who does not know how to use linux, and besides that, the most compitable os out there.

So xbox must not *roxor*.

[Vchat20]

The only reason why I would get the XBOX is cuz of one game-Midtown Madness 3. otherwise I woulg go with a PS2 or GC, but havent decided. depends on what games they have.

[vampireuk]

Originally posted by Doomulation
Besides, winxp does not *roxor*. It is merly the best os out there for those normal users who does not know how to use linux, and besides that, the most compitable os out there.

So xbox must not *roxor*.

nice non logic there :rolleyes:

[Trotterwatch]

nice non logic there

Well it is Doomulation we are talking about! LOL

[Jaz]

Originally posted by Vchat20
The only reason why I would get the XBOX is cuz of one game-Midtown Madness 3. otherwise I woulg go with a PS2 or GC, but havent decided. depends on what games they have.

I got mine for NFL Fever and Panza Dragoon.

[vampireuk]

Well it is Doomulation we are talking about! LOL

So true :happy: :D

[AlphaWolf]

Originally posted by Jaz
I got mine for NFL Fever and Panza Dragoon.

I thought you were anti-xbox jaz? Guess I was wrong :)

The games I am looking forward to for xbox are doom3, halo, mgs2, panzer dragoon, splinter cell, and phantasy star online v2. Though I would probably rather play doom3 and halo on PC when they come out for it, because consoles are crap for FPS games.

[blizz]

speaking of X-Box and chips anyone know where you can get chipped X-Box or one chipped in the UK?

[Josep]

well, this is a popular topic as always;)

given that all these are different consoles, its pretty much impossible to say one is 'better' than the other, they all have high points to them.

IN general:

-ps2: the little dvd playpack feature(although terrible quality in my personal opinion) and a shit load of games to choose from.

-gamecube: unique games or exclusive games that are acutally good.

-xbox: haha, hackability:D xbl freak'n blows, what good games are there to play online right now, that are good?:)

and panzar dragoon is fucking awesome, i got a pre-release of it a couple weeks ago;)

[AlphaWolf]

josep: have a look on the donkey, I found a jap import version, has english menus and english subtitles.

[Josep]

Originally posted by AlphaWolf
josep: have a look on the donkey, I found a jap import version, has english menus and english subtitles.

huh?;) i already have it dork;) and use donkey? isn't that p2p sh1t?;)

[AlphaWolf]

import=better

[Josep]

allright, i think i said it wrong in my first post, BUT theres only been one release of it so far and its unmarked on 'informative' websites;) but its a flippin awesome game;)

[Jaz]

Originally posted by AlphaWolf
I thought you were anti-xbox jaz? Guess I was wrong

I am. But the bloody Panza Dragoon disc won't work in my Dreamcast. >_<

Plus 3 of us chipped in to buy one.

[apexad]

Originally posted by Doomulation
Besides, winxp does not *roxor*. It is merly the best os out there for those normal users who does not know how to use linux, and besides that, the most compitable os out there.

So xbox must not *roxor*.

uhm, correct me if I am wrong, but what your saying is win xp is good for the average user, right? The average user (who as you pointed out wants an easy and compatible os) likes ms, and thus may like xbox. I was not talking about you, I was talking about the average user, who as you put it does not care fo linux let alone even know what it is.

[apexad]

Originally posted by Trotterwatch
Well it is Doomulation we are talking about! LOL

yeah, doomulation's post only proved my point even more, did it not. he made a better anology of how stupid people are :) (average and below users)

[Doomulation]

I'm pointing out that we use xp, because it is the best os for the *average* user. However, this does not mean that one would *like* or *want* the x-box, just because it is developed by the same company. Merly, in the console buisness, there is gamecube and ps2 as well. And they are easily enuff to use just as x-box.

So short said, x-box must not *roxor* because winxp *roxor*.
Get my points, or do i have to explain it further?

[vampireuk]

does anyone have a clue what he is raving on about?

[Jaz]

No. ;)

[Lachp30]

I use to hate the XBOX, until a friend brought one over one night and I got addicted. I'll probably buy one when I scrape up some extra cash, as I hate Sony (Playstaion) and there arn't any games on GC that interest me..>_<

[MT86]

Xbox's the best *ends discussion* ;)

[Plisco]

Xbox's the best *ends discussion*
Do you Know why the top of the x-box is curved??
I'll tell you, to stop other consoles being piled on top of it. That is why I hate X-box(Microsoft) because they are trying to take over the world!!:P

[Vchat20]

*Takes a heavy duty belt sander to the top of Plisco's XBOX*

There, now you can stack 'em. LOL :happy:

[AlphaWolf]

Nah, thats nintendo consoles, they all load from the top. xbox you can still stack things on it and still use it, but if you stack something on a nintendo console, you cant load the damn thing. That makes the cube function well as just an xbox stand and nothing more. :happy:

[Plisco]

*Takes a heavy duty belt sander to the top of Plisco's XBOX*

There, now you can stack 'em. LOL :happy:

It was my understanding that Nintendos methid of lift up and place disk in was cheaper to manufacture than having a disk tray? Correct me if I am wrong

[Doomulation]

Originally posted by MT86
Xbox's the best *ends discussion* ;)
It isn't :plain:

[vampireuk]

Well it is to me :P

This topic is getting a bit dragged on now ;)

[Allnatural]

Please...make it...stop... ... *dies*

;)

[JevilKnevil]

To bash the xbox cos you hate M$ is just damn stupid. If it has good games, good gfx and online support who gives a shit what company's behind it all? We buy consoles to play games and not to spite other companies. Allot of people hate M$ but still buy the XBox cos of games like Halo and Panzer dragoon. Allot of people hate Sony (ok not allot) but still buy the PS2 because of MGS, Jack&Daxter etc. Basically if you like the the games on XB then buy the XB and if you like the games on PS2, buy the damn thing! Same goes for GC of coarse...

[Doomulation]

Some might just think it isn't the *best*, like others brag about here. <_<
I hate X-Box because of m$, yes, can't deny, but i won't say i hate because of it. Let all have their opinion.

Btw, another reason is that i know no good games for it. There *is* no good games for it atm imo.

[vampireuk]

can I kill this now

Doomulations stupidity is making me loose faith in mankind:cry:

[blizz]

Originally posted by vampireuk
Doomulations stupidity is making me loose faith in mankind:cry:

I lost mine long ago. :devil:

[Allnatural]

Originally posted by vampireuk
can I kill this now

Doomulations stupidity is making me loose faith in mankind:cry:
Yes, specifically because of this:

I hate X-Box because of m$, yes, can't deny, but i won't say i hate because of it.
Eh? :huh:

*hits self in head

[Harteex]

Doomulation: Might be because you don't seem to know any game at all that's on Xbox... <_<

[slashkirby]

dude....all systems r good! i like the gamecube....im not saying gamecube is the best! im just saying i like it :plain:

[Doomulation]

I do, but i don't find them intresting.

[Vchat20]

frankly, the ony thing I see wrong witht the XBOX is it has to absolutely have a broadband connection to do anything that requires an internet connection. which we wont be getting for a long while.

[vampireuk]

ahuh, so you would like to play games on a dial up connection then? :rolleyes: :P

[Vchat20]

i dont mind. most games I have now, I play multiplayer on dialup and they run fine. for example, I have midtown madness 2 and i play it multiplayer practically every day. and I have never seen a car being "trnasported" from about 20 ft. ahead of me to about 50 ft. ahead of me. so, dialup shouldnt be much of a problem.

[2fast4u]

nevertheless, broadband is the better solution since its the future, and dialup is the past ..

[Vchat20]

well, some of us dont have the money let-alone cant even get it since it isnt available. luckily it is available here but costs about $40 a month. soon we will be getting digital cable, but that is about all we can afford on our cable bill.