zilmar
August 24th, 2005, 00:59
Update: Site now open! Click here for info! (http://www.pj64.net/main/donations.html)
As you might know the Project64 team mostly have busy lives these days. Improvements, fixes and new features still get added to PJ64 behind closed doors. We've always tended not to talk about what's going on, it probably seems like PJ64 happens only every few years, but really its more like a continuous process; sped up around releases and at many other times with no public sign. We always try to maintain a high quality complete release, so even if a nice feature is added it will not be public until everything else is complete. You've probably noticed public PJ64 releases are irregular, and they are difficult due to a natural reluctance to release – it's risky and actually takes time away from dev., and because everyone needs free time at the same time.
Where are we going with this? Well, no we're not planning a major change to our public release schedule, it works for us and we've been going for a long time. We once ran a program where if you donated money then we would be able to help beta test. We are considering doing something similar again, some type of donated subscription where you get access to all the latest test builds, bug tracking information, latest news of what the different team members are planning to do, what we are doing. This might even include just saying we are too busy with real life and we will be back on such-and-such a date. That way you could see whenever you want exactly what is happening.
This idea and point of this is that it allows you to show real practical support to the PJ64 team (who are btw, not rich). Firstly, it would let you thank us for all the work we've done over the 5+ years, if you just wanted to do that. Secondly, it would be a real way for anyone to improve the prospects for next few years of Project64. In the short term, it will give you access to all new features and fixes, and more as they appear. It would also give users who subscribed more voice and what should be added/fixed with PJ64, for we would like to set up some private forum for these people (unlike the public forum which has always had a 'no requests' policy). We cannot promise to do everything that people want, Project64 will still be a free hobby project, but if someone is supporting us of course we would like to support them too. Subscribers would be viewed as partners, not customers, with certain things expected (e.g. not leaking builds), although the amount you participate would be up to you. To be blunt, the support we do or don't get with this setup, if we went ahead with it, would likely have big effect on the future of Project64. We've long passed the point where we've done everything we set out to do for ourselves - future progress is dependent on motivation, from in and outside the current team to take things further.
Any suggestions or comments for the beta programme?
Sorry, do not post feature requests in this thread. requests/suggestions for the emulator here will be ignored/deleted. Please read the public forum rules.
ScottJC
August 24th, 2005, 01:26
It sounds like a good idea to me, zilmar! I'll definitely donate towards this cause. Plus i'd probably also test it like crazy, I was a 1964 beta tester and it was quite fun at times (I was the bone-idle one ;)) - Well in any case... I'd love to help in any way shape or form that I can.
Woohoo! I got the first replie here, go me!
CLSugarman
August 24th, 2005, 02:03
I've donated before to the cause (and became one of those beta testers he was talking about) and I'll donate again for the cause. Just thinking about it, you guys really don't get credit your work is worth, in monetary terms. In fact, it makes me feel guilty. I've poorly spent my money on less worthy products. Now where's that paypal button...
Martin
August 24th, 2005, 02:06
Spoke to zilmar about this on IRC before and it sounds like an excellent idea to me.
Good to see you again CLSugarman. :)
Allnatural
August 24th, 2005, 02:13
I've donated before to the cause (and became one of those beta testers he was talking about) and I'll donate again for the cause.
ditto
xneoangel
August 24th, 2005, 02:37
Yeah the donations is good idea you guys deserve it for all the effort and time you put on PJ64.
bagmcmuffin
August 24th, 2005, 03:33
I've always been a fan of pj64 and I'd be more than happy to donate to the project. It's one of the few emulators who have really come a long way and has never disappointed me. Count me in.
revgen
August 24th, 2005, 04:28
Subscribers would be viewed as partners, not customers, with certain things expected (e.g. not leaking builds)
Good Luck :rolleyes:
I would hate for you guys to turn out like the PSEmu author did, and lose all your motivation if somebody did release it.
If you know what I mean.
Don't get me wrong. I support your idea. I just don't want you guys to have false expectations and give up if something did happen.
olivieryuyu
August 24th, 2005, 06:54
"it will give you access to all new features and fixes"
Zilmar : a leak is for sure a BIG DANGER !!!!! VERY VERY BAD idea (except for cheats or rbd, why not but they 'll be leaked by somebody)
"people that subscribed more voice and what should be added/fixed with PJ64, for we would like to set up some private forum for these people"
that's a very good idea !!!
Everybody that one day played a n64 emulator should make a small donation to PJ64 team
and i can't donate right now as some of the part of PJ64 team know i'm a bit broke for the good of the n64 community. But in future yes.
Allnatural
August 24th, 2005, 07:09
"it will give you access to all new features and fixes"
Zilmar : a leak is for sure a BIG DANGER !!!!! VERY VERY BAD idea (except for cheats or rbd, why not but they 'll be leaked by somebody)
They've done this before. I don't recall any problems then, and I doubt that there will be any this time.
ggab
August 24th, 2005, 07:10
great idea :)
a huge thanks to PJ64's team (what a wonderful team ;) ) and thanks Zilmar for telling us about PJ64's future.
Indeed, as xneoangel said, you guys deserve it for all the effort and time you put on PJ64.
PS: what a pity! paypal does not operate in argentina :( (and i do not have a credit card...)
q_armando
August 24th, 2005, 07:25
I've donated before to the cause (and became one of those beta testers he was talking about) and I'll donate again for the cause. Just thinking about it, you guys really don't get credit your work is worth, in monetary terms. In fact, it makes me feel guilty. I've poorly spent my money on less worthy products. Now where's that paypal button...
Same over here,
I really like your work and I am looking forward to pay my little duce if that's going to help the project.
ScottJC
August 24th, 2005, 15:49
why hasn't this thread been made a Sticky?
PalmTree
August 24th, 2005, 16:04
I have been planning on donating for a long time... inside information, private builds and a private forum is more than enough reason to stop procrastinating and get off my ass. I think it's a great idea!
Gent
August 24th, 2005, 16:19
why hasn't this thread been made a Sticky?
Stuck and can i say what a great response :)
WhiteX
August 24th, 2005, 16:56
PS: what a pity! paypal does not operate in argentina :( (and i do not have a credit card...)
I got the same prob but in Brazil and i understand that there are many emutalkers that lives in oplaces out of paypal reach and, like me, want to thank the hours of fun that PJ64 has given us, is there any other alternative.
ScottJC
August 24th, 2005, 17:30
Stuck and can i say what a great response :)
I was actually going to say something else but I realized it was a stupid idea and just left the sticky suggestion. Something about needing 500 posts to join so if it was leaked they'd have something to worry about... but it wouldn't work would it.
xneoangel
August 24th, 2005, 19:40
PS: what a pity! paypal does not operate in argentina (and i do not have a credit card...)
I got the same prob but in Brazil and i understand that there are many emutalkers that lives in oplaces out of paypal reach and, like me, want to thank the hours of fun that PJ64 has given us, is there any other alternative.
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_display-approved-signup-countries-outside
Well this link may help you guys.
And before you ask yes im from south america too :P
PalmTree
August 24th, 2005, 22:37
I was actually going to say something else but I realized it was a stupid idea and just left the sticky suggestion. Something about needing 500 posts to join so if it was leaked they'd have something to worry about... but it wouldn't work would it.
Yeah.... I don't really like that idea for obvious reasons, lol.
I'm the kind of person who visits forums like this one ritually for years, but don't post much. I just browse, find answers to my questions, and just generally fill up on knowledge. I don't think you can judge loyalty or whatever by post count alone.
ScottJC
August 25th, 2005, 00:39
I wouldn't worry about that Palmtree, it's not likely to work very well.
As for paypal problems, what about worldpay.com ? would that work in argentina I wonder... it's an alternative to paypal.
smcd
August 25th, 2005, 01:17
Or maybe western union even? they have a thing sort of like paypay that goes international i believe. When i get a spare dime i'll chuck it your way ;)
Bobbi
August 25th, 2005, 10:46
Sounds like a nice idea ... some things I'd consider:
- maybe tag the file upon download so leaks are easy to track
- maybe make it a monthly suscription fee like PHPNuke does (or did?)
- consider alternative payment methods (maybe a simple postal gateway - like: Enter adress, amount, get an ID, send money + ID - done)
I guess many people would be willing to donate for such a great project!
MasterPhW
August 25th, 2005, 11:50
Nice to hear that there still some things going on, behind closes walls...
I will probably donate too, if I'm out of school, so that could be a great way to give you some things back for all what you did...
Persephone
August 25th, 2005, 17:36
I think it's a very good idea, i'll donate for sure.
Nothing more to say :)
spoondiddly
August 25th, 2005, 17:43
Great idea! I might not be able to send much, but I'll send what I can.
Doomulation
August 25th, 2005, 17:57
- maybe make it a monthly suscription fee like PHPNuke does (or did?)
Bad boy! Bad boy! Some people do not have the money for a monthly fee. That's bad! They will simply show their appreciation for people donating them a little money :) They don't need to PAY for the service. And so it shall forbee methinks :)
- consider alternative payment methods (maybe a simple postal gateway - like: Enter adress, amount, get an ID, send money + ID - done)
By post? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight... but other methods might be a good idea if they cannot use paypal.
Is there limits to some countries that cannot use paypal at all? Not even send money via credit card?
Smiff
August 25th, 2005, 18:15
it wouldn't be monthly, it would probably be for at least 6 months or a year, and there'd be a reasonable minimum so people can't take the piss, although what that would be isn't decided yet..
urherernow
August 25th, 2005, 18:35
umnnn.... ok, so how to donate? Or is this not final yet? I just went to Project64.net, clicked on the donate button, and it says no longer taking donations. I used to love playing around with pj64 and I've been busy configing a new system the past week or so (a few minutes at a time...) so when I'm done, I'll finally have the juice to enjoy it even more :P
New specs:
ASUS A8V SLI Deluxe
AMD Athlon64 x2 4800+
2GB Corsair (2X1G TWINX2048-3200C2PRO
Sapphire ATI X800XL 512MB
2 74GB|WD 10,000RPM 8MB WD740GD (SATA, in a Raid 0 on the NVraid)
300GB WD caviar
And of course an Adaptoid for using the real controller
Yea... can't wait to do some testing with that!
zilmar
August 25th, 2005, 21:23
umnnn.... ok, so how to donate? Or is this not final yet? I just went to Project64.net, clicked on the donate button, and it says no longer taking donations.
Nothing is done yet, still a lot of infrastructure to build before this is feasible, it is more getting how people react/think of the idea before I spend a lot of time setting up all the stuff to support this. I do not know how long it will take me to set this up, any where from a couple of weeks to a couple of months.
Zilla
August 25th, 2005, 23:17
This sounds like a great idea, PJ64 is only missing support for around 5-10 games (as far as getting them to load etc), I'll definitely donate, though I hate using paypal.
Grant64
August 26th, 2005, 14:41
I think it is a good idea! It worked a few years ago. However. What about the people who substatially donated in the past. I wont really beta test nowadays! But I will donate this time because of how fantastic this project was and I feel guilty about never donating!
flinto
August 29th, 2005, 23:24
I would personally like to donate money to PJ64, without anything in return other than the knowledge that I am helping the future of this great project.
ToninhoFWi
August 30th, 2005, 13:19
I Agree. Of course developers need donations to continue developing.
Techman
August 30th, 2005, 16:44
Great idea. Too bad I can not give you guys anything.
But I really do appreciate your work.
dazey238
September 3rd, 2005, 21:33
I post very very rarely but have been keeping up with the scene for the last 2-3 years and think this is a great idea. I did say when 1.6 was released that I wanted to donate, so even if it just gives me the opportunity to do that then great, as I think it's a hell of a piece of work that you guys have done here over the past few years. I'd also like to get more involved, but like you guys I have a life so I don't know how much I'd be able to commit. Anyways, totally understand what you're saying about how something like this is needed for you guys to have the motivation to carry on - look forward to seeing what you eventually come up with....
©XL-DJK
September 6th, 2005, 07:11
:canadian: I would just like to say thank you to everyone that has put their heart and soul into this emu... I've been trying it out for the past month and am immensly impressed (If only someone'd work on GC:P). I don't have much knowledge in programming unless it boils down to a basic text doc (lol) but I'd LOVE to become a regular Beta tester seeing as how I have a TON of time on my hands as well as a few thousand backups..... let me know if your interested!:canadian:
gandalf
September 7th, 2005, 20:57
nice idea to continue with the proyect 64 :)
ready2rumbelX
September 7th, 2005, 23:36
I am extremely happy that the project continues. It is an amazing piece of software, that we should all be lucky having the privelage to use.
r2rX :D
Miretank
September 8th, 2005, 01:03
first of all, thanks pj64 team for the attention and the amazing job you guys make with the emu :) you guys deserve all our help, even with money or other.
Now i'd like to ask you a thing... is it possible to make PJ64 compatible with others types of compressed files? You know, .rar and .7z compress much better than zip, and it would be really be helpful when you have a lot of games :)
RottNKorpse
September 8th, 2005, 20:21
I love PJ64, it plays about 98% of the games I have tried to play and hardly ever gives me any problems and when it does it is usually because I install a hack that doesnt work well in the first place. lol I would love to be a beta tester for new versions of this program and as soon as I learn this type of coding I would like to help that way. So as soon as you open the donations I can gaurantee you will get a paypal email on behalf of me.
Derek
September 8th, 2005, 21:54
Encouraging people to donate? Very, very good.
But, I am worried about a leak. Need to iron out preventative measures.
RottNKorpse
September 8th, 2005, 23:24
it's less like encouragement more like permission...I am sure there are hundreds of people who would like to donate and not even get anything extra for it.
The possibility of leaking is a problem but the only way to never let that happen is to not give out the updates and such. Which would be cool with me, I would still do the behind the scenes thing whatever they are calling it...just to even get time updates would be great. So lets see what happens...
Hosma293
September 9th, 2005, 07:41
w00t! Good luck guys, I can't donate 'cause I'm only 14 but hopefully you'll get heaps. I might be able to get dad to donate for me but I'm not promising anything.
mabauti
September 23rd, 2005, 07:18
I agree about donating *signs*. Good luck guys!!:bouncy:
Poobah
September 25th, 2005, 05:56
Now i'd like to ask you a thing... is it possible to make PJ64 compatible with others types of compressed files? You know, .rar and .7z compress much better than zip, and it would be really be helpful when you have a lot of games :)
That's just what I've been wanting to see in a '64 emulator -- 7zip support. I don't see why it isn't even being considered.
justin023
September 26th, 2005, 16:01
I would like to donate because I want to see better versions of this, but unfortunatetly, I have nothing to spare. BTW, any word on the dynamic lighting for Turok 2? Or is that game still unstable?
ceedj
October 6th, 2005, 17:38
I would LOVE to donate...
Except the last time I did, the project shut down two weeks later. If I could have some sort of assurance that the project would indeed continue, then yes, I would definately donate.
In any event, thanks for the update. The N64 continues to STILL be my favorite system. :)
DJRobX
October 13th, 2005, 19:00
I would definitely be interested in donating and becoming a beta tester in return. I like to donate towards active projects, and I'd love to participate in the development!
Smiff
October 13th, 2005, 20:14
I would LOVE to donate...
Except the last time I did, the project shut down two weeks later. If I could have some sort of assurance that the project would indeed continue, then yes, I would definately donate.
In any event, thanks for the update. The N64 continues to STILL be my favorite system. :)
this had us scratching out heads. we think probably you donated soon before v1.4 was released and donations were closed at the release, is that right? if so i apologise on behalf of zilmar/jabo. just want to let you know about a few things.. one, there are more of us working on this this time, and we're putting a lot of effort into making it as professional as possible. two, we still feel like weve just had a release and we are nowhere near the next public release, i'd say at least a year probably as releases are now far apart. we will have a proper news/forum system for members to make sure people are kept informed and warned about whats coming up as best as we can predict. finally of course, your donation was still appreciated and you still have the work we did to enjoy! so hope you do not feel too hard done by, and thanks for letting us know so we can try to avoid any misunderstandings this time around.
as for continuing.. we've been on this for 5-7 years and if we get a good response to this i see no reason why we cant continue for several more, nothing in life is certain but i'll tell you honestly that the intention is to do more good work, actually we're all fed up with working on the site and keen to get back to development!
ackmondual
October 17th, 2005, 22:12
That's just what I've been wanting to see in a '64 emulator -- 7zip support. I don't see why it isn't even being considered.
I don't know about the rest of you here, but until 2 days ago, I haven't even heard of 7zip. I hear it's freeware and supposedly better than winZip (the firefox of compression tools perhaps?), but that's it. I've been using winZip for the past 7 years. No pun or whatever, it has been 7 years. I've even stuck with v8 so that I wouldn't have to register for it.
Mikey
October 17th, 2005, 22:40
Yeah, I'll consider donating too.
Fabricio_EX
October 20th, 2005, 22:53
I want to help too! I'm using Project64 since the 1.3 version and I like it very much. So you can count on me for everything.
Smiff
October 20th, 2005, 23:40
well folks, donations are now open. and so far nobody has donated, except for someone we know. who's gonna be the first real donater? :)
http://www.pj64.net/main/donations.html
although we are still working on the site, the beta section is functional, there are builds there to download, etc ;)
edit: yay we got our first donator, ScottJC is the man, thanks Scott.
its not about the money at this point, its about keeping the project alive. been working on the site all evening again, going to bed :)
ScottJC
October 21st, 2005, 15:59
Beta's are open for business folks so all those who flocked to this thread saying you were interested now is the time.
craigbeat
October 21st, 2005, 16:30
Well worth the support - these guys are on top of their game. (and people said the Scots were tight!) ;)
RottNKorpse
October 22nd, 2005, 01:56
I will be donating soon...this asshole demanded a refund when I finished the work like 3 months ago and PayPal are fucking idiots and let them get away with it and also charged me a fee for doing it. So I deleted their fucking sites and took ownership of their domains...fucking assholes...Anyway when I add some more money to my paypal I will donate to PJ64.
ToninhoFWi
October 23rd, 2005, 12:45
Donation done!
gandalf
October 23rd, 2005, 20:19
Nice! 1.7 coming soon!! :)
{removed by smiff, no features requests in this thread sorry}
Smiff
October 23rd, 2005, 20:26
doh. gandalf, sorry you seem to have massively missed the point. we just *started* on the next ver. we call it 1.7 beta, because it comes after 1.6, and it's got major changes (so it's not 1.6x). this is not coming soon. no feature requests here please.
this thread is now just for discussion about the beta programme please, people who want to ask Qs about it etc.
gandalf
October 23rd, 2005, 21:57
only wish :p but i´m not requesting....o well forgot this
well, the point it´s that the team started the next version :)
and for the donations...i want to donate but i don´t have any credit card...or money :S
Talas
October 24th, 2005, 00:25
Sounds pretty cool. And since I already donated ("bought") Magic Engine... well why not here too. 20 bucks aint the world anyway.
MasterPhW
October 24th, 2005, 18:00
How much euros I have to donate to "help" you and me?!? :)
Smiff
October 24th, 2005, 18:04
How much euros I have to donate to "help" you and me?!? :)
according to xe.com, 20 USD is about 16.66 EUR
a bargain ;)
Master_VEteam
October 26th, 2005, 23:21
zlimar, I need bêta version of project 64 1,7
I create a surprise compile of emulator for my cousin
Smiff
October 27th, 2005, 00:22
one thing i should have made clear before, we are not normally giving the source to donators, there'd have to be some very good reason for you to need it and wed have to know you, basically. and jabo's video, forget it lol. no one has that except zilmar for a backup.
edit: 1) i'm informed that no one has jabo's source. it's possible to get his attention though ;)
2) the debugger (profiling, logging, detailed error info) is available in the beta exe for people so inclined to use them :)
Wolf [TW]
October 27th, 2005, 04:19
Sounds awesome, two ideas for it.
{removed by Smiff - sorry no feature requests in this thread or this forum, please see below}
Thanks,
Wolf
Smiff
October 27th, 2005, 11:59
gah. no feature requests in this topic please, it's for discussion relating to donations/beta programme only. i'm going to have to start moderating, evidently.
RottNKorpse
October 27th, 2005, 22:39
I will be donating soon...this asshole demanded a refund when I finished the work like 3 months ago and PayPal are fucking idiots and let them get away with it and also charged me a fee for doing it. So I deleted their fucking sites and took ownership of their domains...fucking assholes...Anyway when I add some more money to my paypal I will donate to PJ64.
I got money back in my paypal now so I will be donating very soon...
Edit at 3:49pm (CST) on 10/27/05
I have just donated $25.00 I cant wait to use 1.7 beta I will definently be apart of the testers who try to help where they can with the emu.
Smiff
October 28th, 2005, 01:36
Worldpay:
http://www.worldpay.co.uk/sme/content.php?page=start
there's a setup free and ongoing fees. its much more geared towards business. might cost more than we get from it :/
zil says maybe, if we get a lot more people. sorry, but that's reasonable you got to agree.
RottNKorpse
October 28th, 2005, 02:05
not that I want to be a pessimist* but I doubt anyone would want to use anything but paypal...paypal is the best sorce for online pay right now because you have a checking account you can use paypal...if you have a credit card you can use paypal...what kind of payment does paypal not accept? Cash but who is stupid enough to pay cash over the internet via snail mail...you gotta be crazy. I say stick with Paypal for those who say they cant use paypal mean either they are too young and/or their parents wont do it or they just dont want to donate at all. If you are over 18 and say you cant use Paypal you a damn liar.
excuse the language but still stick with Paypal.
Smiff
October 28th, 2005, 02:46
thanks, well there are some valid reasons for not being able to use Paypal like #1 being in the wrong country, which is not something we want to 'discriminate' against.
are you the guy who just donated? edit: yep as you said sorry! i think you need to confirm your account, see you on the site.
RottNKorpse
October 28th, 2005, 08:11
its activated could someone changed my username to RottNKorpse though?
Edit: nevermind...I found where to do it...cant wait to get to testing. :)
Edit #2: No I do need it changed cuz I want it to be RottNKorpse on the member forum where at the moment it isnt.
Smiff
October 28th, 2005, 14:35
we need to fix the display in a few places still sorry, one name (loginname) needs to be static.
Tjalian
October 29th, 2005, 02:50
Ok I've just dondated $20USD...how long do you think it will be until I get my login and pass?
Smiff
October 29th, 2005, 03:12
Ok I've just dondated $20USD...how long do you think it will be until I get my login and pass?
as soon as zilmar gets back, should be this evening (his time). within 24 hours is the time we aim for, please hang on :)
Tjalian
October 29th, 2005, 03:20
Oh i see, its done manually?
Oh, then my apologies :) I thought it was done automatically, heh.
And sure, I'll hang on :p
Smiff
October 29th, 2005, 03:26
yep it's not automated yet (todo)
LePaPa
October 29th, 2005, 16:57
Hello... all..
20 USD for project64... OK :bouncy:
Impossible make compte for http://www.pj64.net ????
Sorry .. My English Is Very Bad .. :smurf:
Smiff
October 30th, 2005, 00:03
Impossible make compte for http://www.pj64.net ????
i don't understand sorry.. ask in french please
and maybe I or someone can translate :)
Tjalian
October 30th, 2005, 01:09
I converted his sentence into french, and then re-translated back into english using world lingo, and this is what I got:
Impossible made the fo of account
I think he's trying to say 'Its impossible for me to make an account at pj64.net'. He Probably doesn't have a Paypal account, or he is trying to find the register button and can't for obvious reasons.
:)
Persephone
October 30th, 2005, 22:41
Just donated $20,00 USD :)
I wanted to give really more but i don't have much money those days. I'll give a second time later.
battersup
November 4th, 2005, 00:56
one thing i noticed about the new pj64 1.6 is that it doesn't play super smash bros. good, before 1.6 i had 1.3 and it played it perfectly, the problem with it is the sound, i had another emulator and it had the same problem, so just lettin yas know
ray16
November 4th, 2005, 01:08
Bah, being unemployed sucks, I'd love to donate and help out. Maybe I can sell a kidney or something...
ToninhoFWi
November 4th, 2005, 13:36
I do a donation. What I need to login? I don´t receive my password...
Smiff
November 4th, 2005, 13:46
I do a donation. What I need to login? I don´t receive my password...
hi, when did you donate? allow up to 24 hours please. did you fill in your correct email? you've probably got the email already?
edit: check your PMs
ToninhoFWi
November 7th, 2005, 10:54
hi, when did you donate? allow up to 24 hours please. did you fill in your correct email? you've probably got the email already?
edit: check your PMs
Hi Sniff. I do it in October 23rd, 2005, 08:45. My paypal user is toninho@fwi.com.br
Thanks and best regards.
Smiff
November 7th, 2005, 16:09
i think zilmar sent you a private msg on this forum. basically, the minimum donation (as explained on donations page?) for an account is $20, but we record donations so if you give less than that you don't need to give a whole 20 again, you could just give difference. hope this makes sense, sorry.
we have to do that because some "funny" people give 1 dollar or something..
ackmondual
November 7th, 2005, 18:37
Bah, being unemployed sucks, I'd love to donate and help out. Maybe I can sell a kidney or something...
Meh. I certainly know the expression, but it would still be easier to donate even just $5 :p
RottNKorpse
November 8th, 2005, 03:02
Meh. I certainly know the expression, but it would still be easier to donate even just $5 :p
he could sell sperm...people do it on sitcoms...why not check into it lol
ToninhoFWi
November 8th, 2005, 19:17
basically, the minimum donation (as explained on donations page?) for an account is $20, but we record donations so if you give less than that you don't need to give a whole 20 again, you could just give difference. hope this makes sense, sorry.
No problem. I 100% agree with you. I donate $ 10,00, and I´m goint to donate more. I understand your point of view.
Thanks.
legendj
November 8th, 2005, 21:15
how much pj64 earned $ until now ?
deathace
November 9th, 2005, 00:57
'bout $168
TS_Death_Angel
November 9th, 2005, 17:19
I donated $20... so now I just wait for an email? :)
DJ_Gotetsu
November 13th, 2005, 19:25
Im sorry, but im dying to help the comunity and (of course) to test out 1.7
I just donated $20 bucks.... i should wait for the confirmation email? confirmations are handpicked, so thats why it isnt automated?
Thanks :D
zilmar
November 13th, 2005, 20:34
confirmations are handpicked, so thats why it isnt automated?
At the moment I do this manually and try to do it as quick as possible, I know this by far a crappy way of doing it. First off I did not know how automated you can do pay pal. Know it is just getting some time when I can focus on it.
xamenus
December 1st, 2005, 23:13
Hmm, I'm redirected to an error page when I click on the PayPal link on the donations page. It says that they are experiencing technical difficulties at PayPal. I hope they are back up soon, I was thinking about donating a few dollars. :/
EDIT: Nevermind, figured it out. Just log into your PayPal account first, then go back and click the donation link.
Aks
December 16th, 2005, 00:56
Just donated 25$, keep up the great progress PJ64 Team
Rage2Wrath
December 17th, 2005, 02:52
I just donated $100. Hook me up with an account.
emutalkfreak
December 26th, 2005, 01:12
What system is necessary to donate to Project? :pj64: What does the donations do for Project? Am I asking on the correct forum? :unsure: I am new! :bouncy:
zilmar
December 26th, 2005, 07:09
What system is necessary to donate to Project? :pj64: What does the donations do for Project? Am I asking on the correct forum? :unsure: I am new! :bouncy:
Donations are via pay pal, It is the correct forum. What it does for the project should be well described here:
http://www.pj64.net/main/donations.html
It shows the support of the users in a real way, and does provide motivation to keep working on the project
emutalkfreak
December 27th, 2005, 01:01
Ok thanks, and could you delete my second post? I can't delete double post! Can someone tell me how? Ok thanks whoever deleted it, much appreciated!
Aks
December 27th, 2005, 17:41
hey guys, am I supposed to be waiting on an email or a pm? not to be rude but I did donate almost 2 weeks ago.
ackmondual
December 27th, 2005, 18:24
I got an email, altho i never tried accessing my new account yet. I was moreso interested in donating itself and will get to the account later.
2 weeks is kinda long so there wasn't nothing wrong with asking nicely as far as I know. In the meantime, make sure the emails aren't being blocked by filters.
zilmar
December 27th, 2005, 20:35
hey guys, am I supposed to be waiting on an email or a pm? not to be rude but I did donate almost 2 weeks ago.
Sorry Aks, an email was sent, not sure what happened with it, you should have a new email sent now, and I sent a PM as well with the details.
Mr.Garrison
December 28th, 2005, 14:17
latest headlines: poor student donates $30 to emulation project :P
badwog
December 29th, 2005, 03:11
is project64 1.7 comein out for the Public ?
zilmar
December 29th, 2005, 23:35
is project64 1.7 comein out for the Public ?
hmmm.. well yes, just do not know when, do not expect it any time soon tho. I am planning to release frequently to the people who have donated for testing. But publicly, I want a lot more done and it a lot better before I would even consider looking at a public release. I think you would be extremely lucky to see a public release before the end of 2007, but you never know. There is a chance that 1.6 will get a couple of little bug fixes.
Blacklord
December 30th, 2005, 14:06
I would have made a donation. I live in Romania and I'm 14 years old. I wanted to make around a 50$ donation but my parents won't let me :(. But I'm very useful in spoting problems(i have an eye:borg: ). I know nobody wants my help but i'm here and ready to help.
MasterPhW
January 3rd, 2006, 00:44
Mmh. The only thing I can say is PJ64 is really great!? :)
zilmar
January 3rd, 2006, 20:12
Mmh. I know that it is a lot of work for you but I don't know why I haven't got a email yet... I already donated 20€...
MMhhh, very crazy...
BTW, PJ64 is really great!
I just sent you an private message, so I can help sort this out.
flinto
January 6th, 2006, 20:00
I feel sorry for the Romanian guy. The average wage in Romania is about $50/month (The last I heard).
Xijar
January 8th, 2006, 10:04
Just donated some hard-earned cash to support the project. You guys earned it.
Blacklord
January 8th, 2006, 11:56
I feel sorry for the Romanian guy. The average wage in Romania is about $50/month (The last I heard).
No harm done man.
flinto
January 8th, 2006, 23:31
I was trying to stick up for you. I didn't mean to cause any offense. Obviously my facts were wrong.
Blacklord
January 11th, 2006, 14:11
I been doing some tests and comparing 1964 with PJ64. 1964's core indeed seems more stable but the plugins are crapping it's potential so i combined the 1964 core with the PJ64 plugins and it seems to create a emulator a bit more powerfull than PJ64. It seems that PJ64 almost reached perfection so i just wanted to say: Good work.
I was thinking of making a logo for PJ64. Heres what i've come up with so far. All of them are made by me. Anyone who likes my work can visit my page at http://spaces.msn.com/members/blacklord9/ Making these logos has sharpened my graphics skills in just 5 hours. U may have to download the fourth logo in order to preview it. Either "save target as" or download the PSD version. Please regard that the PSD versions are not protected but please do not claim them for yourself.
Is it possible to add a type of netplay to PJ64? Something like a host which hosts the game and someone that joins and appears like a second controller or something like that. I don't mind if my answers to this question is: Hahaahahahahaha: U got one hell of an imagination or not even in ur wildest dreams or worst of all sorry but i do'nt think its possible.
badwog
January 12th, 2006, 17:43
is project64 1.7 goin to have netplay?
Agozer
January 12th, 2006, 17:56
What, Project64K is not good enough for you?
Smiff
January 12th, 2006, 18:43
i said at the beginning of this thread, no feature requests here please.. will have to start deleting OT posts again :/
Blacklord
January 12th, 2006, 20:33
oh but i was'nt making a feature request!(well maybe the logo thing can be considered) but i really don't have any request to make since it not my department. I hope i won't have to suffer of somebody elses mistake!:angry:
Dj Noop
January 13th, 2006, 06:17
Is there any way to donate and help Project 64 other than through Paypal?
zilmar
January 13th, 2006, 09:31
Is there any way to donate and help Project 64 other than through Paypal?
I am happy to look at other ways if the demand is there cause pay pal does not work. Is there some reason you have problems with it. PM and I can discuss this privately if you wish to and we might be able to find a different method.
Blacklord
January 13th, 2006, 11:59
personaly i don't think emulation will get to far and not just n64 emulation. As long as we expect the CPU to emulate a console core, emulation won't get anywhere. I'm not in the position to suggest how it should actualy be done but maybe someday someone will find another way but till then most emulation has red light. The only thing that makes the N64 emulation possible is becouse todays CPUs are stronger than the N64 core.
BY MAKING THIS COMMENT I DO NOT BRING ANY TYPE OF OFFENSE TO PJ64 OR IT'S STAFF SO DO NOT DELETE THIS POST COUSE IT MIGHT INSPIRE A VIEWER.
Xijar
January 15th, 2006, 20:20
Wow. Is this guy for real.
Platinum Card
January 16th, 2006, 01:41
I jus hope there is a netter rice plugin or any plugin that get textures to work with cpu's with lower video cards.
MOYcano 0.23
January 16th, 2006, 02:08
I jus hope there is a netter rice plugin or any plugin that get textures to work with cpu's with lower video cards.I aren’t sure of understanding your comment because my English is VERY basic but I think you did mean an emulation software based, I’m right?
I think the MESS developers desires get it in some future release but you know the MAME ideology: “hi-end emulation justifies some very-hi computers specs even for low-end emulated systems”.
SALUDOS! :sombrero:
Dj Noop
January 16th, 2006, 15:26
Is there anyway to donate without the use of paypal?
badwog
January 20th, 2006, 17:28
on project64 can you make yore server im sick of Kaillera network
Kaillera is not 100%
it be cool u make yore server
wen i ues Kaillera online the controller lag im uesin ADSL200.
http://pj64k.emulation64.com it all right but if u make yore server it be cool i
my video card 256
project64 1.7 it be great if it had netplay :)
i love to donated
by sendin money by mail not uesin the Internet.
sfried
January 24th, 2006, 07:52
I have just one question concerning this new 1.7 beta:
Is it stable as is? (Without any additional configuration?)
Smiff
January 24th, 2006, 15:53
I have just one question concerning this new 1.7 beta:
Is it stable as is? (Without any additional configuration?)
no, the exe is currently less stable than 1.6. the video plugin is about the same i think. but this can improve quite quickly when zil starts looking at the crash bugs.
we will also be providing a bugfixed 1.6x line, that got delayed a bit.
legend of zelda
January 25th, 2006, 07:45
YES! I finally donated $20 to the project64 team. You guys really deserve it, and i wish i could donate more, but i don't have the money right now. Maybe another time i'll donate more.
kenjiro-sa
January 25th, 2006, 16:28
Update: Site now open! Click here for info! (http://www.pj64.net/main/donations.html)
...
Any suggestions or comments? This is only something we're thinking about at the moment.
Update: Site now open! Click here for info! (http://www.pj64.net/main/donations.html)
do not post feature requests in this thread. requests/suggestions for the emulator here will be ignored.
Well ok ill dont post future feature request here but so where can i do it ???
:linux:
Penguins
January 27th, 2006, 17:44
I think that this is the best emulator to come around. I'm gonna donate, as soon as i scrounge 20 bucks or so. Anyhoo, I think I'm gonna write a graphic plugin for it. We'll see how well it works. But yeah WOOHOO!!!! PJ64 ROCKS!!!! :linux:
rockofdeath42
January 28th, 2006, 06:16
Project 64 is the 1st n64 emulator I ever tried, and I just have to say that I love it. Keep up the good work!
CCMAN
January 29th, 2006, 22:09
"Best site. Best Emulator. Best Action of the year". -- Daily Times
Okay, not really.
But it kicks all butt there is left on this planet to kick.
Good fortune in future projects.
Eddie_Alucard
February 3rd, 2006, 01:45
I have been using PJ64 as my main emulator for N64 games for a very long time. Nothing pleases me more than a chance to show my real appreciation for your hard work.
Keep up the good work!
axcc123
February 9th, 2006, 06:07
i donated 20.00 and it is way worth it:bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy:
Nathanew
February 18th, 2006, 19:07
Sight the site is down
chriharr
March 10th, 2006, 12:14
I would be more than happy to donate to PJ64 to support on-going developement of the emulator, although i don't want to donate and see no real progress in the next release, im hoping that real progress is being made through the 1.7 beta release, i will more than likely donate in a week or 2 as i would like to test the 1.7 beta, i seriously hope my money helps support the project
Long Live Project 64
tuesday20102001
March 15th, 2006, 09:57
do donaters get the benifit of better hard ware support?
axcc123
March 15th, 2006, 20:20
do donaters get the benifit of better hard ware support?
in a since thawt you get to test to new pj 64 before anybody get to see the program then yes:bouncy:
Doomulation
March 15th, 2006, 20:22
You get access to the member forum and beta downloads. There you can see what is going on behind the scenes, report things and also request things that are not too absurd.
waterberg
March 16th, 2006, 01:36
I would like to see a mode in which N64 games can be run in their original resolutions with their original framerates. In the current release, the framerates are smoother than what was seen on real hardware. For example, Mortal Kombat 4, when played on hardware, would slowdown during many special moves. Most of that slowdown is absent on Project 64 1.6. Only Scorps fire breath causes slowdown, but it is not as pronounced as it was on the real thing.
Mekun
March 17th, 2006, 07:31
Im sorry but 20$ dollars? Way to high try like maybe 5 bucks. I know it may be wrong to disagree but thats the way it goes. Thats almost the cost of a game at the store, which is finished.
Doomulation
March 17th, 2006, 08:48
It is not. Besides, you do not HAVE to pay $20 or more. But if you don't, you don't get the special privlegies. $20 is a fitting price for everything they put into the emulator.
Clements
March 17th, 2006, 18:55
$20 (£11) is literally pocket change. I spent more on travel expensives (bus and train fare) on average for a single day.
WhiteX
March 17th, 2006, 19:22
Damn, it is expensive to live in europe, man!
Here, 20 dollars (R$ 50) gets you more than 50 cans of beer!
Doomulation
March 17th, 2006, 19:56
Oh don't be silly. For a one-time payment, it is nothing. I also live in europe.
Trotterwatch
March 17th, 2006, 20:12
Damn, it is expensive to live in europe, man!
Here, 20 dollars (R$ 50) gets you more than 50 cans of beer!
And what is that in proportion to the average wage? And what quality Beer is it? :)
djsolidsnake86
March 18th, 2006, 22:57
i hope that in this release will be fixed audio problem (specially with ocarina of time :) the best game ever! :D )
Agozer
March 18th, 2006, 23:31
i hope that in this release will be fixed audio problem (specially with ocarina of time :) the best game ever! :D )
What audio problem?
djsolidsnake86
March 19th, 2006, 00:33
sometimes there are crackling/popping sounds... maybe are the plug ins
however i hope that 1.7 fix all games rom problem
Gent
March 19th, 2006, 00:57
sometimes there are crackling/popping sounds... maybe are the plug ins
however i hope that 1.7 fix all games rom problem
Just use sync game to audio they will go away :)
Options/Configure Audio Plugin\Sync game to Audio.
Just use it on the game that is popping/crackling unless told overwise by the Manual.
WhiteX
March 19th, 2006, 02:26
And what is that in proportion to the average wage? And what quality Beer is it? :)
The average wage here is R$ 500,00, so it is 200 dollars.
For a buck we can get our most average beer, Brahma, ice cold in any bar!
maximius
March 21st, 2006, 16:22
I might donate, but I'm waiting to see screenshots that say 'netplay', pretty much.
Doomulation
March 21st, 2006, 19:25
I might donate, but I'm waiting to see screenshots that say 'netplay', pretty much.
Netplay hasn't been implemeted yet afaik, not even in private betas. Donate if you want access to see what is going on behind the scenes and you'll probably know when netplay comes.
Fede2006
March 22nd, 2006, 06:13
Hi, i know this doesnt help much but i just came to give my support to the pj64 staff and related stuff around for the job u done.
Srry i cant donate, i am not 'cash-ing' yet..
well, simply that, my reverence to u all.
Zelos_Zalis
March 24th, 2006, 13:09
Just letting you guys know I you have my support, I've donated and was happy to do it, you guys rock!:pj64:
77587758
March 31st, 2006, 08:46
Faint,It's need 20$.
where have free-version????
WhiteX
March 31st, 2006, 13:27
The beta version for the 1.7 is only for donators, you cand get the 1.6 for free at pj64 website.
GanondorfTM
April 10th, 2006, 23:21
When is it going to be released? Is there a date already? Or you are waiting for peoples' donation and after a number of donations you will release the 1.7 version?
Doomulation
April 11th, 2006, 00:52
It's done when it's done. And that is all that you will know, unless you yourself donate a little. However, if IF you do, don't expect to know a release date, just what is going on behind the scenes and maybe, just maybe, a hint, some time when it is nearing a 1.7 release.
cdbsi
April 20th, 2006, 21:25
K, I just made a donation. I hope that helps! :D
I would be more than happy to donate to PJ64 to support on-going developement of the emulator, although i don't want to donate and see no real progress in the next release, im hoping that real progress is being made through the 1.7 beta release, i will more than likely donate in a week or 2 as i would like to test the 1.7 beta, i seriously hope my money helps support the project
Long Live Project 64
That shouldn't be the focus of making a donation. Donations are merely an official way of saying thank you to the developers. Heck, it would be great if everyone whom downloaded this app had to donate 5 bucks, then we'd be seeing some major progress. ;)
Im sorry but 20$ dollars? Way to high try like maybe 5 bucks. I know it may be wrong to disagree but thats the way it goes. Thats almost the cost of a game at the store, which is finished.
Oh, come on, don't be lame. Why don't you imagine life without Project64, then start talking.
Sparkle_1
April 25th, 2006, 15:57
I've a qestion to the new v1.7
My PC are an older Intel.. (look at this post (http://www.emutalk.net/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=34776))
It's the 1.7 Beta already faster as 1.6 (or better 1964)?
or must we still waiting for improvement? :borg:
ackmondual
April 25th, 2006, 19:46
I would be more than happy to donate to PJ64 to support on-going developement of the emulator, although i don't want to donate and see no real progress in the next release, im hoping that real progress is being made through the 1.7 beta release, i will more than likely donate in a week or 2 as i would like to test the 1.7 beta, i seriously hope my money helps support the project
Long Live Project 64
I'm sure the donation will help the team regardless. They mentioned somewhere that while of course the more $$ the better, any amount will do, especially if many people only donate that amount since the money will add up. However, keep in mind, all in all it IS just a donation.
You need to enter the notion that the hour if you were send in your donation, the PJ64 team could announce end support for good, disband and get back to the rest of their lives in full. Such donations are true with even commercial products. Support and donations for them is no garuantee that the the next big sequel or upgrade will come to fruition. However again, seeing as this project has come along 6 years from something so-so to IMHO the best N64 emu out there, it looks like the PJ64 team has some miles left in them. IMO again, I don't know what possible major improvements there could be, other than better game compatibility or video/ROM issues. I'm happy with what we've got now. In a fantasy world, I'd like the PJ64 team to make improvements to other emus like ePSXe (which I use and like very much, but it could still use improvement). I'm not a big multiplayer person for emus, but I guess netplay could be exciting if it isn't at the cost of what's already available.
Bottom line, donate b/c 1) you want the PJ64 team to have the $$ for their past efforts as well as their present and future efforts and 2) you want the members only forum access and early beta access. Otherwise, don't consider donation $$ to be thrown away if the next build isn't quite what we expected or hope.
I just realized that the next version that us 'solid' donaters get to use is a beta. I know in some circles, betas are more stable and better than any final product, even that's sold commercially will ever be, but with my more complex emulators (anything "above" GBA), I'd prefer the kinks to be worked out for good while sticking with a working version that I'm used to. Nice to know the priveliged forums are also available as another nicety.
Im sorry but 20$ dollars? Way to high try like maybe 5 bucks. I know it may be wrong to disagree but thats the way it goes. Thats almost the cost of a game at the store, which is finished.
Not sure about your demographics, but in the eastern US, only games in the bargain bins go for $20. This includes your typical selection of olden PC, GC, PS2, and XB. Generation before that like n64 and ps1 especially so. New curr-gen PC and console games go for $40 to $60.
Sure, you can buy N64 cartridges on ebay for $4 to $20 a pop, and that's with shipping included, but upon its release, N64 games went for $100 a pop for new games before PS1 came out and Nintendo dropped it to $60.
Even if you were to buy a used N64 now, it'll still cost around $40 and up. $20 should be a small fraction for most ppl who also pay $30 to $150/mo for internet and/or TV, $40+/mo for cellphone bill, and hundreds of $$ for insurance. I think there was talk of a "required" donation of $20/yr for those who'd like to retain priveliges for members access, but still a small drop in the bucket. I know some ppl here may not be as in a financially ideal situation, but i suppose that would be forgoing half a concert ticket.
Long story short again, IMO, $20 is reasonable. U can always donate what you have now and pay the difference later for the bonus stuff. Just make sure the recipients are aware of your previous donations.
Doomulation
April 26th, 2006, 00:11
Betas are far more unstable than any final product. And really, the builds that are available to donators should actually be named "alphas," since they are development in progress and are hardly tested. It's up to the donaters to actually test them.
_Zack_
April 26th, 2006, 00:24
Yeah i agree. I donated $20 and think it's worth every penny. you can even dump textures with the new plugins in v1.7. I think anyone who has used this emulator over the years should donate, if anything just to thank the team for all there hard work.
ShadowFX
April 26th, 2006, 01:20
I donated awhile ago as well, but I want to seriously begin testing once I have new system to be able use the new versions at its fullest. Either way, it is totally worth it (like most said in this thread) and the developers deserve it. It feels good to give something in return :)
ackmondual
April 26th, 2006, 02:08
Betas are far more unstable than any final product. And really, the builds that are available to donators should actually be named "alphas," since they are development in progress and are hardly tested. It's up to the donaters to actually test them.
What I meant was one beta for one software can be far more stable than the final/retail of another similar product. I was _NOT_ talking about the same product.
axcc123
April 26th, 2006, 05:01
What I meant was one beta for one software can be far more stable than the final/retail of another similar product. I was _NOT_ talking about the same product.
pj 64 beta it makes 1.6 look like childs play meaning it is a hell of a lot better donate today!!!!!!!!!!!!:pj64: RULES!!!!!!!!
Extremist
April 28th, 2006, 03:30
I'd defintely donate if I had some money, but I can't spare any. Sorry. :(
rprsplitter9
April 28th, 2006, 05:20
Are you members aloud to tell us anything about the progress thats being made, if I had some idea of what kind of news they give you in the members area theres probobly a 90% chance I would donate. Not that they don't deserve the money, but me being 14 and not being able to get a job makes it hard to get earn some spare cash.
axcc123
April 28th, 2006, 06:57
there is a lot of progress being made donate and you will find out
rprsplitter9
April 28th, 2006, 06:59
How often do they give you new news?
axcc123
April 28th, 2006, 08:09
there is a members only forum us members get new news all the time
Noobnugget
May 26th, 2006, 13:05
Im sorry but 20$ dollars? Way to high try like maybe 5 bucks. I know it may be wrong to disagree but thats the way it goes. Thats almost the cost of a game at the store, which is finished.
i have to agree with this statement somewhat. $20 is far to much. i wouldnt pay even near $20 for an incomplete, most likely buggy, and possibly unstable beta version of a piece of software. like pointed at in this quote. id much rather spend my $20 at a store on a game a year or so old thats stable and actually complete rather than on something that could be the total opposite.
feel free to flame me on my opinion if you want. i just think the price is a bit greedy for an unfinished work...
Doomulation
May 26th, 2006, 13:08
feel free to flame me on my opinion if you want. i just think the price is a bit greedy for an unfinished work...
1) It isn't much and is hardly greedy.
2) You are DONATING to the Pj team. As a THANKS you can access the private member board and voice your opinions, download beta versions and comment on those too. You are showing your appreciation to the pj team. You can donate less, too, of course, but you won't get access to the board and betas.
Smiff
May 26th, 2006, 14:16
an advantage of having it at $20 rather than $5 is we only get poeple who really care on the site, which is better for us and for other donators.
edit:
the point, we have tried to make clear, is that you are not buying a piece of software, you are donating toward project64 development. then you have the option of using new versions if you like before they go public. so its just a good way to help each other out, and i don't want to pressure people into it at all. but we're definately not going to drop the suggested amount because what would that achieve?
smcd
May 26th, 2006, 14:27
i have to agree with this statement somewhat. $20 is far to much. i wouldnt pay even near $20 for an incomplete, most likely buggy, and possibly unstable beta version of a piece of software. like pointed at in this quote. id much rather spend my $20 at a store on a game a year or so old thats stable and actually complete rather than on something that could be the total opposite.
feel free to flame me on my opinion if you want. i just think the price is a bit greedy for an unfinished work...
So donate for being able to use pj64 1.6 and below since they are a "finished work" and as a side effect of your donation, you'll get a glimpse into the future of n64 emulation ;) Most software on the market today is never in a "complete" status, it's always changing.
Smiff
May 26th, 2006, 14:33
btw i think 1.7 is almost stable (if you count 1.6 as stable, its getting to about the same level imho). i was talking to zilmar about this last night - there are not many obvious bugs left, he's been working solidly on cleaning it up for the last few builds. so we're pretty happy the new app is maturing quite nicely and close to useable as a full replacement for 1.6. just in case anyone was wondering about that! :) (the video plugin has never really been less stable than 1.6).
i'm not saying its perfect, i'm saying its close to good enough so an average person can just use it without too much hassle.. that puts us in a good position soon to do more interesting enhancements and emulation.
of course there's always a danger of new posted builds breaking things (being more alpha than beta), but mostly we're very quick about fixing any regressions, and they are quite rare anyway.
/me looks at jabo and his setup button
;)
ackmondual
May 26th, 2006, 16:49
i have to agree with this statement somewhat. $20 is far to much. i wouldnt pay even near $20 for an incomplete, most likely buggy, and possibly unstable beta version of a piece of software. like pointed at in this quote. id much rather spend my $20 at a store on a game a year or so old thats stable and actually complete rather than on something that could be the total opposite.
feel free to flame me on my opinion if you want. i just think the price is a bit greedy for an unfinished work...
It seems like you just solved your own concern. You think $20 is too much and you'd rather be spending on game-of-the-year or stable games. It sounds like quitting PJ64 and playing n64 games on a real n64 is what you should be doing, since emus will never be 100% as stable as the real thing (it can come VERY close tho).
Or, you can just _NOT_ donate and still use PJ64. It does cost nothing to use it. Honestly, how many of us really "need" to prerelease access and special forum access? And again, remember, these people are doing it for the fun of it, for free, for US. They can jump ship at anytime, and IMHO, we'd be losing quite a fine ship, altho i think i mentioned this in another post, the rest seem to be issues with game/video compatibility
underdog
June 24th, 2006, 19:18
hi would any1 tell me is there any emulator that can play star wars battle for naboo
ackmondual
June 24th, 2006, 19:43
WELCOME to EmuTalk underdog :) :) :cool:
I'm no forum master, but given my observations and experiences, you'll want to ask that question but start a new thread for it so that more ppl will see it.
axcc123
June 24th, 2006, 21:01
hi would any1 tell me is there any emulator that can play star wars battle for naboo
1.7 beta is close but not yet i have rouge squadron running but not at full speed. it seems that low level graphics are comming around
laynlow
June 24th, 2006, 21:35
an advantage of having it at $20 rather than $5 is we only get poeple who really care on the site, which is better for us and for other donators.
edit:
the point, we have tried to make clear, is that you are not buying a piece of software, you are donating toward project64 development. then you have the option of using new versions if you like before they go public. so its just a good way to help each other out, and i don't want to pressure people into it at all. but we're definately not going to drop the suggested amount because what would that achieve?
Sometimes explaining all that I feel like you're wasting your time. People like him well never get the whole emualtion scene. You guys made a great piece of software and I gladly donated to the cause. I hope you keep it up.
Dead_Screem
July 7th, 2006, 01:42
I donated earlier today, how long is the wait for the email? Just like to know before I start complaining to people :)
axcc123
July 7th, 2006, 02:39
when zilmar get to it
Dead_Screem
July 7th, 2006, 05:04
yeah, I didn't see the part about it being done manually.
But I got my email a few mins ago so all is good :)
axcc123
July 7th, 2006, 05:14
zilmar does that manually
zilmar
July 7th, 2006, 05:34
it is actually done automatically, just sometimes the mail goes missing or takes a long time to send. Sometimes I need to look in to it and get it to recreate the account that will send the email as well. I also get a copy of the email so if I get it and the user doesn't then I can forward it. I hope you enjoy the access you now get
gendoikari4
July 10th, 2006, 03:15
I dont really mind this setup, people who are developing software deserve to be paid to do it, and clearly it is illegal to charge for such an emulator, but this beta test donation thing strikes me as backwards. There is no motivation for the developer to actually release v1.7. The second that happens, no more donations. So it seems to me that this will be in beta for another year, and another year after that forever because the truth is, they simply discovered a loophole in copywrite law.
Smiff
July 10th, 2006, 04:26
without the donations setup, it's unlikely there would ever be another version. jabo especially has never been very fussed about releasing, and it would be in beta for years anyway, just like the last few versions. the changes are huge, even bigger this time, there's a major core rewrite going on right now (the 2nd just since 1.6, there was another one which wasn't working out. all of 1.0 to 1.6 were basically one core). you don't start fiddling around in there unless theres a very good reason, and say goodbye to weeks of free time and thought every time you (zilmar) start something like that.
so the numbering system is very misleading in that way.
the only way to speed the next "done" version up a lot (like from years down to months) would be to get so many donations zilmar and jabo can give up their jobs and work on it fulltime. not likely to happen, but every donation is motivation. i say that again. every donation is motivation. this is really important because some of this stuff is very hard and very tedious. and at this stage there are not many "who can be the 1st to run game x" moments left. its like the long crawl up the plateau. or something.
i think originally zilmar said he had in mind late 2007 and that hasnt changed, but its done when its done and this setup gives us a chance to do things well.
it actually works both ways - there is pressure on us to deliver to those who donate which we wouldn't have without them. and what they like, is roughly the same as what most people will like.
this is a huge huge project, especially for a small team (basically 2 people with bits of help here and there). maybe sometimes people forget. its not as hard as say an operating system, but its probably as hard as somethng like a web browser. how many people do mozilla and opera have? frankly (knowing how many bugs there have been to fix, etc.) it still amazes me it even got to where 1.6 is. jabo could get run over by a bus and then we're f**ked. i am not joking, i try to hurry things along just on that basis (that and we only live 60-80 years, etc). so the money is an issue, but its also not an issue.
right hmm is that a deep enough answer. i don't know where zilmar stands exactly but thats how i see it.
gendoikari4
July 10th, 2006, 06:54
Ok well assure us of this: it will be released, eventually, and the abillity to become a beta tester through donation will stop significantly before a release is made.
-or at least the intention truely exists
zilmar
July 10th, 2006, 09:15
when a public release is planned, I will make it well know publicly before hand.
your right there is not much need for me to do public releases, I do plan to make this public at some stage, most likely when I have finished working on it, so probaly a final release. My goal in making it public is more about how good it is then based on time. If I got enougth donation that I could work on this full time then a public version would come out soon. Since I am working on this in my spare time, things take a lot longer. When a release is likely I will probaly run a period of testing that we can make sure all things are stabalized and there is not other work that needs to be done. If I am not actively developing then it is not right for me to ask people to support in the development and there is none.
Smiff
July 10th, 2006, 12:42
yeah the intention is definately to get this done and make it public. but atm that looks so far away its hard for me to even think about yet. yes, one of the first things we said when planning donation setup was we have to warn people in plenty of time when a release is coming so no one feels cheated, as a few people did at v1.4. that was more careless (i.e. we're busy worrying about bugs) not malicious. we have a better structure now, things are going ok.
Skull_Kid
July 15th, 2006, 02:32
I really hope the slowdown while swiching weapons in Goldeneye and Perfect Dark gets fixed. Also theres random lag in Virtual Pro Wrestling 2 thats probably a core issue.
ackmondual
July 15th, 2006, 02:55
I'm hoping (but with no hard expectations of course) that the video issues in Gauntlet Legends gets fixed. It's just no fun to play as is
Mikey
July 15th, 2006, 11:33
I keep meaning to donate like at least £20, but something else keeps coming up. Hope I'll get around to donating soon though. :)
Milo-
August 1st, 2006, 15:24
I want to ask a question:
What would be the minimum specs for this version of the emulator?
Look, i want to know because if im going to make a donation of 20$ i really want it to be worth it, my PC already has some problems with the pixel shaders (Absence of them =P) it was alright for the version 1.5, but as i have seen that many plugins are starting to require pixel shaders, may be is not a very good idea to donate so much money.
Dont take me wrong, i look at the PC specs of most of you and you guys are very rich compared to me, for me 20$ is not a huge amount, but it's considerable, also, i may have some problems donating to you (im 16 years old, so no credit card for me or anything like that)
so if my PC is not going to run the next version as good as i want it to (like version 1.6) why should i donate so much?
maybe i will donate in a future, but it wouldn't be 20$ it would be less but at least it would show you my apreciation of ur Job =P
Doomulation
August 1st, 2006, 15:28
I think, that if your specs are low, you should wait for the final release. Right now, it is beta, or maybe WIP stage, which means that the final specs are not final and that things may be slow due to not optimized.
Getting a new gfx card could help with your pixel shader problem. There might be a card in your budget. Perhaps if you start a new thread and give your budget, some may help you.
And it would help if you put your specs in your profile.
kingButt
August 4th, 2006, 08:45
Hi I donated $20 dollars over a week ago and i never got a link to the beta Can you help me out
zilmar
August 4th, 2006, 09:06
Just about to leave work, i will look when I get a chance tonight, so probaly in a couple of hours
Hi I donated $20 dollars over a week ago and i never got a link to the beta Can you help me out
Resent you the email with your details, have also sent it to you via private message. If you have any issues please let me know
kingButt
August 4th, 2006, 23:12
Thanks Zilmar
Smiff
August 6th, 2006, 22:55
pj64.net may be unavailable for some people over next few days. dns problems. oops.
edit: ok thanks to martin again we shouldn't be down for long, or maybe not at all to some people with slow dns updates like me :/
K1rby64
August 6th, 2006, 22:57
never mind ! we are appreciate that your works is hard ! good luck
Flare1728
August 15th, 2006, 20:09
I would really love to know that the new emulator will smoothly play Mystical Ninja
and I'll be donating either way but it would be awesome.
trelord
August 17th, 2006, 10:12
Donated $20 & haven't received an email yet, any chance you can help me out zilmar?
zilmar
August 17th, 2006, 12:47
ok, check your private messages
Skipp2k
August 27th, 2006, 09:42
Hi am gonna send a donation but it is asking for a user name and I don't know where to register for an account. can you help.
Thanks
Doomulation
August 27th, 2006, 15:09
http://www.pj64.net/main/donations.html
If you enter your email and info there, you should get an email with your new login info after you've donated. This can be changed later, after you've logged in.
amishkumar
September 4th, 2006, 06:15
i have not recieved pj64 1.7 yet. i paid yesterday. my email is keenkumar@gmail.com, if you need a ppaypal reciept i have it
zilmar
September 4th, 2006, 12:27
i have not recieved pj64 1.7 yet. i paid yesterday. my email is keenkumar@gmail.com, if you need a ppaypal reciept i have it
Hi Amish
From what I can see the payment I got was an e-check. These useally clear in 4-5 days. Once it is cleared the system should send you out an email with the information. Sorry it was not more clear.
amishkumar
September 4th, 2006, 19:35
Hi Amish
From what I can see the payment I got was an e-check. These useally clear in 4-5 days. Once it is cleared the system should send you out an email with the information. Sorry it was not more clear.
o lol i didnt even know what e checks were. anyways thanks :P now i know
Smiff
September 4th, 2006, 19:41
i have found "echeques" (um, what paypal?) can take up to 10 days to clear. for UK at least, not less than, but 10 days exactly :/ they are one of the worst things about paypal imho - i'm not sure why they sometimes get used, and it doesn't seem to warn the sender either? anyone know what causes an echeque to be used instead of instant payment? i would take it as an accident and offer to refund so they can use an alternative.. but there may not be an alternative.
Mooro12
September 4th, 2006, 20:05
Whens 1.7 Coming out for download
Doomulation
September 4th, 2006, 20:06
When it's ready. Read the rules.
windings4
September 6th, 2006, 07:47
I just donated $20.00 waiting for email plz
wow how long does this take? Ive been to school and back
zilmar
September 6th, 2006, 22:24
hi Windings
You set the email address you want to recieve to "sport". Which was not able to receive the automated email. I created u a new account yesterday before leaving work to the email address based on the message you sent with paypal "This is windings4 (xxxxxxxxx@yahoo.com)". If you check that email account you should have an email there from about 12 hours ago. I did not have any more time yesterday to respond on emutalk either here or in PM. I just got up now and was just double checking if you got it or not. I have sent you a PM with your account details.
Cheers
Zilmar
SlimickGamer
September 6th, 2006, 23:22
Is there a limit over the $20 dollars donation?
axcc123
September 7th, 2006, 00:40
not that i know of
squeakypants
September 7th, 2006, 00:55
Yes, you can't give them more than $20. If you did that their heads would explode.
zilmar
September 7th, 2006, 01:01
Is there a limit over the $20 dollars donation?
It is a donation, you can donate as much as little or much as like, we just decided that any one donating $20 or more gets access to the beta work we are doing.
windings4
September 7th, 2006, 02:37
yea i got the email and the pm thanks zilmar
Smiff
September 14th, 2006, 03:56
yes the site is currently down or replaced by an offensive msg, we're waiting for Martin to finish putting it back (hopefully).
on a side note.. can't these $$^% political mother $%£^%^%$^ go and $£$% do their £$%$^ someplace £$$%$ else. £$££3"
they are so $££"$% lame.
look.. $%^%^ do I look interested in your msg? you are not winning any hearts and minds here.
/rant over.
eh sorry.. sorry Martin aswell.
axcc123
September 14th, 2006, 05:50
amen to that
squall_leonhart
September 14th, 2006, 11:15
to bad we have no counter hackers on the forums...
we could get em back..
Smiff
September 14th, 2006, 21:22
to bad we have no counter hackers on the forums...
we could get em back..
i thought for a moment you wanted someone to adjust the hit counter or something..
no. we do not want any kind of illegal response. what would be good is if someone knew how they are doing this so we can be sure of it not happening again.. if anyone is aware of any particular exploits that would affect the software running on the emu64 servers and has some advice can you contact martin in Efnet #emulation64, thanks. a long shot eh.
squall_leonhart
September 14th, 2006, 22:36
update to the latest versions of
MYSQL
APACHE
PHP
Also, secure your cpanel by changing the password, and remove any stagnant ftp accounts, increase security by changing the password, and mixing in some numbers.
are they injected data into the html file, or getting onto the ftp itself?
hmm i went onto that irc channel but no ones on...
nvm.. had to change server :P
Cönker
September 27th, 2006, 06:43
So how's the beta comming along? I don't have my Xbox controller so I'm kinda stuck for awhile (at school).
I can't wait for online play, I'll die of happiness.
Doomulation
September 27th, 2006, 09:11
No, not done for a long while yet last time I checked. No online play either, when I looked last. There are more pressing matters.
Cönker
September 27th, 2006, 09:59
I have the beta, I obviously didn't read the readme or whatnot. I'm just so very excited for it. It will be like old time, eh chaps?
OMFG, nice monitor, I was thinking about getting the 22" Acer, how much did that one set you back?
Doomulation
September 27th, 2006, 11:26
How much the monitor cost at the time of purchase?
squall_leonhart
September 27th, 2006, 13:02
thats what hes saying
Doomulation
September 27th, 2006, 14:30
8400 SEK all-in-all I believe, but that is off topic.
Mick
September 29th, 2006, 15:07
Hello there, I haven't reciewed login information for Donations yet !!!
sunburn
September 30th, 2006, 08:57
It has been 30 hours now since I made a donation of $20 and I have heard nothing...
JACKERL360
October 2nd, 2006, 16:38
..
JACKERL360
October 2nd, 2006, 16:39
Not had my login details yet...
J
Jabo
October 2nd, 2006, 17:31
Most accounts are created with no problems the same day as you donate, if you are having an issue please wait at least one additional business day. If you are still having a problem please send a copy of your receipt from paypal to zilmar on emutalk and we can try to work out what happened. We would appreciate if people did not post in a public forum immediately if they are having issues, again patience is key.
zilmar
October 2nd, 2006, 21:33
I am sorry for all the problems it seems to have been a couple of issue. I have been away for a couple of days which has impounded the issue of me not being able to get on top of it quickly. It seems like there was an issue with the server not sending out emails (or just not quickly, big queue). The second one is that other then the email goes out it is being rejected/stopped getting to the end. I have re-created all the recent inactivated accounts, got what the email should have been and resent it via my own ISP. So you should have an email now (please also check your spam folder). If not please tell me and I will fix the issue.
Sorry again about all the problems
Zilmar
morcar
October 4th, 2006, 17:24
Not posted on here much but I have just donated so i`m just waiting for my PJ64 1.7 and i will donate more in the future as the emulator gets even better ... keep up the good work
Edited ....
Ack this is my firts post and edit LMAO :D
Smiff
October 8th, 2006, 01:07
has everyone who should have an account now got one? i've also been away (trees killed my phone line), sorry to anyone who msged me during that time. there is no conspiracy basically :p
GanondorfTM
October 16th, 2006, 02:19
When is this sh** coming out? I mean, I know that this is a privilage, not a right but if you're thinking in releasing it... when is that? Or are you just so happy for recieving money that you wont do it in the next 2 or 3 years? C'mon, release it please.
mudlord
October 16th, 2006, 03:06
You just have to wait..the developers have the rights to release it, and they don't have to listen to people pestering for releases. I'm quite sure they will release it when they are happy with it :). End-users have to respect that and the wishes of the developers, because after all, the devs are putting the work in, NOT the end users. The end-users should be thankful for that.
Flash
October 16th, 2006, 03:11
When is this sh** coming out? I mean, I know that this is a privilage, not a right but if you're thinking in releasing it... when is that? Or are you just so happy for recieving money that you wont do it in the next 2 or 3 years? C'mon, release it please.
1)Shit is coming out right now in every third toilet on this planet.
I don't think that calling some software "shit" thus insulting its developers can help to get this software to be released sooner...
2)PJ64 1.7 will be released when it's done.
3)Nobody forces anyone to give money for PJ64.
4)Most people can live happily with current version of PJ64, 1964, Mupen64.
Doomulation
October 16th, 2006, 10:08
When is this sh** coming out? I mean, I know that this is a privilage, not a right but if you're thinking in releasing it... when is that? Or are you just so happy for recieving money that you wont do it in the next 2 or 3 years? C'mon, release it please.
We will tell you what we tell everyone else. It's out when it's done. The whole reason you donate is to be able to access betas of the software before its official release.
Now, if you don't have anything else to say, then get lost.
Jurai
October 17th, 2006, 11:55
I've just donated and joined, keep up the good work!
firefox
October 18th, 2006, 19:09
i live in italy and here we use €
can i donate in € ?
how much is the corrispective in dollars?
Doomulation
October 18th, 2006, 20:06
You'll have to check out exchange rates. They vary every day. Exchange rates can be found pretty much everywhere, but they're always different so don't expect to be able to pay a certain sum and be sure it's $20.
firefox
October 18th, 2006, 20:13
You'll have to check out exchange rates. They vary every day. Exchange rates can be found pretty much everywhere, but they're always different so don't expect to be able to pay a certain sum and be sure it's $20.
in the donation's form on the site i can choose only $ :(
Doomulation
October 18th, 2006, 20:16
I mean exchange sites -_-
Where you can exchange local currency to other currency. See what they take to convert your local currency to one dollar and you'll have an idea.
Even so, when donating with paypal, don't you enter the US amount to send? In that case, it will converted to your local currency and deducted automatically.
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