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[Masterem]

I was a huge fan last year when i got my hands of the first ver. of Chankast. I was part of the 80people who would fill these forums and talk for hours on end. I loved when they would release beta after beta with fixes to improve the emulation experience. But that was a year ago. I respect the team for what they have done but i think it time for them to go open-source and get others involed to speed up the process. Im no programmer but promise of new releases and improvements i think its time to put up or shut down.

*Keep in mind this is just the opinion of one dissapointed fan and i hope the rest feel the same.

[General Plot]

Oh boy, another person complaining about not getting what he paid for. Well, just get yourself a refund then. Mreh, I'm tired of posts like this.

[Neat Hedgehog]

One good reason not to go open source is that then you don't get a bunch of half-working "improved" ports floating around the internet with little or no technical support, and don't give credit to the original devs.

I don't mind the wait myself, having just recently found the emulator, so all of its features seem quite new to me. But if I had to wait a year before the next release, I would, because that would mean that it's getting done right. They're not rushing it, and they're not open-sourcing it so that they can stick to their goals. However long it takes to get there is fine by me. I've waited longer for other programs before.

[jojo7171]

Oh boy, another person complaining about not getting what he paid for. Well, just get yourself a refund then. Mreh, I'm tired of posts like this.


no one is complaining. people like you are really disconnected from reality. someone states there opinion on how progress could be achieved. your a fool to posture yourself that way. at this point you should question the lack of communication.

other guy half working emu's? these devs are good, but not the only ones who can code ;)

yes, lets wait....

[Hexidecimal]

Or, you could spend 15 dollars and buy a Dreamcast.

[General Plot]

no one is complaining. people like you are really disconnected from reality. blah blah blah......
You can't tell that the original post in this thread is pure complaints? O.o I am not as far off of reality as yourself. I can understand that the emu developers are nobody's slaves, and thus I don't make any attempts to bitch/whine/moan/complain about the year that has gone by without progress. Those that feel justified in making threads like this (and the people who back them up) seem to have forgotten that nobody OWES them anything. They write these emulators as a hobby, and then give it away. If we never see anything from the Chankast team, would you not appreciate what they have given us so far? I would say I am. Just a suggestion: Think BEFORE you post.

[Falcon4ever]

One good reason not to go open source is that then you don't get a bunch of half-working "improved" ports floating around the internet with little or no technical support, and don't give credit to the original devs.

...

Hope it stays closed source ;) damn wankers

[jojo7171]

now a name in green thinks they should keep it a secret. because someone posted something they didnt agree with.

isnt that a little too sensetive? childish?

the devs are mature and stable. use them as role models please.

i havent read too many threads like these where people state they owe them anything. no one thinks that.

...but in every one there is some guy with a 1000 posts immedeiately there to jump down your throat. maybe its time for the confusion to stop. its time for a little communication.

chankast was great. was. its over. i hope everyone can find something else to look forward too. there will be other emu's better emu's.

if you cant let go a DC is 15 bucks away!

[General Plot]

now a name in green thinks they should keep it a secret. because someone posted something they didnt agree with.

isnt that a little too sensetive? childish?

the devs are mature and stable. use them as role models please.
I notice you still didn't take my advice about thinking before posting. You should know that the "name in green" falcon4ever is a beta tester, thus he assists devs. So what you basically told him was to ask the people he helps to be a role model. O.o
Note: not taking anything away from F|RES, ector or any of the other authors. Just filling this guy in on the facts.

[Falcon4ever]

Opensourcing an emuproject doesn't always improves the emu, jojo.
Anyone remembers what happend when pj64/dolwin became opensourced? ...

/me agrees on this:
Oh boy, another person complaining about not getting what he paid for.

And besides jojo, since the emu isn't your property you shouldn't ask it to opensource, that's just not kind.

[PsyMan]

now a name in green thinks they should keep it a secret. because someone posted something they didnt agree with.
The "names in green" usually pop-up when someone like you is making stupid questions and comments.

i havent read too many threads like these where people state they owe them anything. no one thinks that.
From posts like yours it's obvious that many people think that the developers owe them something. Either if that "something" is a new release, the sourcecode or even a news update in the Chankast homepage.

...but in every one there is some guy with a 1000 posts immedeiately there to jump down your throat.
Guess what? The time has come for a guy with more than 1000+ posts to jump down your throat (Yup, that's me!).

maybe its time for the confusion to stop. its time for a little communication.
That's what I'm saying. Now go and read the rules of the forum. It's stated there not to ask for status updates, releases or the sourcecode of an emulator. If you don't like it then get out of these forums asap :)

chankast was great. was. its over. i hope everyone can find something else to look forward too. there will be other emu's better emu's.

if you cant let go a DC is 15 bucks away!
Every emulator "was" great up until a new version pops up... (ie: visit this page and notice when the previous update was before the latest release --> http://www.pj64.net/).
Chankast might be over. It may stay dead or it will be "revived" someday...

The funniest thing is that there are so many people asking for the sourcecode in order to "continue" the project. Why? Since the Chankast developers are not the only coders why do you want the sourcecode of their project? If you're such a good coder yourself then make your own emulator and add whatever you like to it.

[Limak-san]

nice talking PsyMan. but don't you think it is better to have some news from them? i don't ask new version , i have my dreamcast since many years ^__^ (shenmue rules!)

[PsyMan]

It would be nice to hear any kind of Chankast related news from them. It's up to them to inform the rest of us if they wish to do it. There is no way to change that despite the amount of people that come here and ask for updates, releases or the source.

Asking for news every day in these forums will not change anything and it's annoying (not to the authors but to the rest of us who keep reading the same thing over and over again). There are other -more direct- ways to contract the authors for these matters (ie: e-mail).

It's certain that the authors are reading these requests but they either just ignore them or they have nothing to show. As I already wrote, it's up to them to respond and this will not change despite the number of people who keep asking for news, releases and the source.

[lodoss118]

but thats the thing if they were reading the posts and infact they did mention they were gonna release a new version soon but then vanished, someone would of posted something by now from the group. I assuming that the major developers have gone sparate ways or lost contact and no on is bothered i am just assuming this. Anyway who cares there is another one being developed with maybe naiomi and automasive or watever it is called

[Doomulation]

but thats the thing if they were reading the posts and infact they did mention they were gonna release a new version soon but then vanished, someone would of posted something by now from the group. I assuming that the major developers have gone sparate ways or lost contact and no on is bothered i am just assuming this.
You don't understand the authors, so don't "assume" anything. Anyone who has been around here from a long time would know that there usually is little news from authors at times, and they decide to release something at times.

Anyway who cares there is another one being developed with maybe naiomi and automasive or watever it is called
Yeah, and you can go dump yourself somewhere. Go whine at their boards.

[STC-Fan]

It could be three years and nothing... a while ago Zophar's reported that an emu which hadn't been updated for that long suddenly being updated out of the blue. So it's not like Chankast is an unusual case. Loads of emus get many frequent updates and then suddenly go "dead" for ages (Project Tempest and Gens, to name but two). You'll just have to be patient for the next person. I find the best way to do this is simple - to try and stick it at the back of your mind for as long as possible so that you're not tempted to post such intellectual messages as "zomg whenz deh nu vershun cumin out???///".

[Playfull]

im really impressed isnt this a Forum where people have the right for thier own oppion isnt a Forum about expressing your thoughts ?

and "generalplot" your 300 posts are those all about telling people how stupied they are becouse they might not share your oppions ?

as a side note i agree with its annyoing hearing "when will the NEW version come / have anyone hear anything from the authors yet" questions but really is it nessery to flame people why not just ignore them ?? my point are it dosent make a nice picture outside when people come here for the first time ...

and if this are standard behaivor i can understand the authors stays away ...

i would say if you dont agree with a poster why flame just tell that person why you dont agree and if a poster do post something wrong or really stupied im quite sure the Mods,admins will handle it without 10 people starts flaming that person ....

[Miretank]

to try and stick it at the back of your mind for as long as possible so that you're not tempted to post such intellectual messages as "zomg whenz deh nu vershun cumin out???///".

Omg, the time you'll need to understand this sentence is the same time for the next realese. And you're doing so gently saying intellectual :P .

[Gondar]

im really impressed isnt this a Forum where people have the right for thier own oppion isnt a Forum about expressing your thoughts ?

Are you not free in this world? Can't you do anything you like? Can you run a red light? Can you shoot someone?

Simply put, if it breaks the rules NO!

You can have your opinion, but respect the rules on this board.

Edit: Please understand that this is not a personal attack against anyone.

[General Plot]

.......and "generalplot" your 300 posts are those all about telling people how stupied they are becouse they might not share your oppions ?
If you believe that, then may I suggest you look at my profile? You will find that the majority of my posts are helpful to people who ACTUALLY need help. But in these kinds of threads where the basic topic is "I want a new toy", well, I can't help but feel that the user isn't asking for help, but is rather sying he is not staisfied with what he has been given so far. Do you share the opions expressed by this bellyacher? If so, my warning to both of you is that you will not find much help from the users here concerning your "need" for a Chankast update. Stick around for a while, you'll see what I mean.;)

[Playfull]

Gondar : again i agree with you some follow the rules other dont or dont even bother to read the faqs before posting (what afcouse are annyoing) but my point was not to drop to same level if all did that it would start flaming/bicthing treads and that looks very unfriendly to people...

generalplot : i have read a few of your post now and can see you are idd are very helpfull to others what i really respect just remember its a forum where people are allowed to express their feelings even if you dont agree ...

a sidenote i never had a Dreamcast or tryed the emulator i did write here becouse i feelt it was going alittle unfriendly here thats the reason i wrote :)
i tho love the emu-scene but mostly uses the emulators for the machines there had a impact on me as kid and did own or still does ...

[General Plot]

generalplot : i have read a few of your post now and can see you are idd are very helpfull to others what i really respect just remember its a forum where people are allowed to express their feelings even if you dont agree ...
An expression of feelings is one thing, breaking the rules is another. The chankast thread page is very specific about the rules of not asking when a new version will be released and such. Authors see these kinds of posts and figure that they are not being appreciated (and they can't be blamed for feeling that way). I've talked to authors, and they've always told me that the only thing they like to hear are that people are happy with their work. This alone sometimes can be what drives them to make improvements. Hope you will find this understandable. ;)

[lodoss118]

well i don't really care when it is released just want to know wat the authors r doing

[General Plot]

And it's their decision when they want to tell us what's the latest on their project. It usually works like this though: no news=no large step in progress. Nobody should be asking/demanding for current information as relates to their work. Asking never does anything, but constant asking has led to bans. You may just want to drop this. ;)

[Playfull]

im not into the dreamcast EMU Scene but the story are the same the making of a emulator isnt a walk in the park it takes time ALOT of time the author(s) uses thier spare time (for many of them its a hobby) and dont get any money for the effort so thier personal life kicks in always for a author at some point some return others dont some release thier source codes others again dont you cant tell a person thier have used his own time/knowledge to relase anything nor to continue ...

then some people sees the emulator start a rom/iso DL spree try them and then beginins complaining over XX game dosent work (asking for updates)

the point in it are all the emulators authors Goal are to make a it as close as possible to the real thing.. But its a hobby and imagine yourself sitting day after day month after month yes even year after year trying to get it as good as possible finding bugs ect ect many would give up i for one respect every one of them and what they ative ..

[General Plot]

In a conversation with Refraction (a coder for PCSX2) his words were: "you try to get things working, so you fix a bug, and before you know it fixing one bug makes ten more new bugs". As you can imagine, this would be very frustrating. Authors must have the patience of a saint. And for their tireless effort, they deserve appreciation. I'm glad you can see that Playfull. ;)

[Weesneak]

If your so desperate to play these games why not just buy a DC, i went out and got one yesterday pre-owned for ten pounds, and any of the games you have for your Chankast can go straight on disk to play on your dreamcast. Chankast is still an amazing tool, for previewing games and for playing the homebrew games.

[punisher001]

hey all! have you ever heard about a word called pattience?????????

[Trotterwatch]

Never heard of that one to be honest ;)

[FatalRewind]

i do understand that these talented guys behind
chankast have their work cut out for them if they continue coding
as it would be alot harder for them if they had took a break as
going back to a project like this without it being fresh in the mind
could easly break lots of working code and this could be a reason
why there has been such a long time without an update.its been
near 12 months , in that time 5/6 months break , lol i mean people
have lifes to lead and bills to pay , and then as stated about 4 months
ago they had chankast running on the xbox which looks like thay have
started work of some sort on chankast once more and as we speak
they are most likely hard at it getting to grips with it once more and
making more progress.this to me is all totaly fine , nothing out of the
ordinary , and i did post against this but i was just being blind and
didnt think before i posted.so if you think about it although we have all
sayed that there has been next to no info from the chankast team
there actuly has been , they did tell us they would be taking a break from chankast (5/6 months) is about normal for anyone , then after that time
they did get back to us with more info about it running on xbox and
that it runs much faster , is more optimised and that sound is also much
better.i dont really see a problem thay are working hard and deserve
all the respect and support we can give them.i just hope its true that
they dont visit these forums often , as from some of the posts would
be like a kick in the teeth and disheartening.
and im sure if the chanka team wanted to stop working on chanka
indefinatly they would tell us somthing without leaving us in the dark.

im a die hard emulation fan , and as such , im also a collector
and i loved it when chanka was released , i also think most folk
who visit these forums are on the same kinda boat as me
and its understandible that you are going to get (idiots) asking
stupid questions and crying about this and that , but its only
to be expected , why dont everyone just chill out and relaxe
and if chanka never comes then it never comes.
but know that no news IS good news and it could be released
in 5 minz who knows.

theres a big blue sky out there and a shop with a dreamcast for £10

enough said !

fatal

[Lilwolf]

for the non-opensource guys. Would you rather it stay closed source if there isn't a plan to ever release a new version?

Just curious? I have a dreamcast arcade cabinet. So the only use for me would be that could change it to a non-disk swapping version... would would be cool. But open the coin door and swap a disk is easy enough... plus it plays all the games perfectly :)

I would love to see some action anyway. I love the dreamcast! I would love to see it emulated farther.

[Playfull]

if the authors decides to make it open source its fine or if they dont either way you most respect thier choice after all its thier creation not ours thats my point of view

[General Plot]

if the authors decides to make it open source its fine or if they dont either way you most respect thier choice after all its thier creation not ours thats my point of view
And that's a good way to look at it. This about sums it up. ;)

[agentx]

The guy/gal is just itching to see the next version and means no harm. The creators of this emulator are smart, enthusiastic and had a vision. I think in reality we look up to these people and once they deliver the goods we expect them to keep delivering, much like we expect Spielberg to deliver the goods when his next film comes out. Let's not get too defensive because someone is keen eh.

[General Plot]

The guy/gal is just itching to see the next version and means no harm. The creators of this emulator are smart, enthusiastic and had a vision. I think in reality we look up to these people and once they deliver the goods we expect them to keep delivering, much like we expect Spielberg to deliver the goods when his next film comes out. Let's not get too defensive because someone is keen eh.
Spielberg makes money for what he does. The emulator authors don't. Need I say more? Plus as the rules point out (you're pretty new, so you've probably missed them) that asking for new versions/release dates is not permitted. Maybe you should check them out.;) And this coming from the guy who thinks Psyman's sarcastic O.o