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[zeus]

Adore, worship and most importantly forget about Ps2 and X-box. Whoever it was that said that Nintendo only develops and releases games rated "E" , as in "e" for everyone, should feel pretty dumb by now.

And in the right corner... l33tness...weighing in at a impressive 8.6Mb....640x480....resident evil....no need for any further explination.... (http://www.capcom.co.jp/bio/kodawari/vol10/img/640-480.mpg)

[mesman00]

umm, i wouldn't say forget about ps2, its a damn sweet system, especially right now with all the sweet games coming out for it (metal gear solid II, tony hawk 3, gta3, ssx tricky, and many others). i bout mine a year ago and was a little dissapointed until over the summer, when hot games started to flow out. now, im really happy with the ps2.
the xbox on the other hand, who cares.

[Harteex]

Hey!
I think Xbox looks great
I will probably buy one..

[zeus]

I couldn´t help noticing that you´re from sweden, when the xbox is released it will cost you 5000 kronor...probaly a lot more if you are going to reserve a copy. The thing with the post was the movie, I wasn´t saying that the Ps2 or the X-box doesn´t have good games but if you dl the movie you will be astounded by the quality.

[Harteex]

Yea, the movie looks great.
I just answered to "forget about Ps2 and X-box" and "xbox on the other hand, who cares"
And what I have heard the Xbox will cost about 4500 sek.

[blizz]

I played a GC ages ago in Tokyo, all of the games are pretty damm good, Super Monkey Ball rocks, SSB: Melee rocks, Resi and Eternal Darkness look damm great,

a wise person would be buying a DC right now though, cheap as chips and great games,

[Raging Fuel]

Originally posted by mesman00
umm, i wouldn't say forget about ps2, its a damn sweet system, especially right now with all the sweet games coming out for it (metal gear solid II, tony hawk 3, gta3, ssx tricky, and many others). i bout mine a year ago and was a little dissapointed until over the summer, when hot games started to flow out. now, im really happy with the ps2.
the xbox on the other hand, who cares.

I'll just mention that all the games you mentioned (except maybe MGS, but it's still not out ofthe question) are not exclusive to PS2. I agree that they are good games, but for me GC and Xbox have more good exclusive games.

And I agree with Blizz, DC is definately the best system at the moment. The only complaint I have is getting the games. Just about all the strores near me have abandoned it :(

[DuDe]

Actually, no even MGS is exclusive on the PS2. In a few months, an X-box version of MGS2 comes out, called MGSX. I think that except FFX, there aren`t any exclusive games for the PS2. Well, maybe "Devil may cry" is, but I'm not sure.

And yeah, the DC is a great bargain now. Great games, low price. 50$ in christmass, ain`t it?

[Macca]

Originally posted by Oleg Zaks
I think that except FFX

Dammit! now i'm going to have to play one of the other 9 FF games....(note the sarcasim)

I would much rather get a gc than any others. the ps2's only good games (none comes to mind) aren't exclusive and the xbox, well thats just shite :p

[Raging Fuel]

Funny from penny arcade (http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2001-11-28&res=l)

[DuDe]

Well hell, I never liked FF anyway, I was just making a point.

Oh man, that caricature is so fucking dumb, Halo is SO much better than that. I bet it was made by some friggin Nintendo fanboy, that never actually saw the real game.

[Harteex]

Originally posted by Macca

the xbox, well thats just shite :p


You don't know much about Xbox, right?

[RatTrap]

ok.. bout to burst a few bubbles here..

first off.. i'm a fan of the Resident evil games.. but the movie?.. that's what it is.. á 3d movie.. it can be shown even on the n64 if you put it into a rom.. it's not that special.. it's just well made 3d grafix.. but it dosen't show the power of the GC.. not at all.. i'm sure we won't see the true full power of the machine for a while.. imo.. it's the best REAL console i've seen in a damn long time.. it's a hell to hack.. and the whole system is more PROishly made than both the X-box and the PS2.. (i've seen the insides).. i just hope the games for the GC are better then for the n64.. originality is good.. and the big N have allways at least tried good at originality..

PS2.. true.. it's a sweet piece of work.. but it's got nothing original going for it.. it's got nothing that sez.. buy me coz you can't get what i offer from another machine.. i've been meaning to sell my PS2 for some time now.. coz frankly i'm bored of it.. it's got nothing really special going on..

X-Box.. come on.. this is a PC with a game OS.. based on W2k no less.. if you've looked at the fotos of ppl opening it up.. and checking out the insides.. you'll see it's built exactly like a PC.. for me this system looks very promising.. for emulation and heX0ring.. but for gaming?.. i don't know.. i have a feeling it'll lose it's grace once you're able to replace the 10GB HD for a 50-60GB one.. so you can dl games online and store em on your drive and run em on that.. and if you put in a 512 MB Ram instead of what it comes with.. maybe you'll be able to run other things.. the posibilities for that machine seem semi-endless in my mind..

and i bet alot of game manufacturers won't like this one bit.. and it'll go down.. not many real good games will be created for it in the end.. it'll probably end up getting left over games.. but like i said.. maybe the X-Box could have alot of use for us who wanna have a machine just for emulators.. maybe the first GC emulator is one that runs under the X-Box.. who knows :)..

[blizz]

I've played the X-Box,

Halo gets really boring really really quickly, nice touches, such as the marines voices, level design is pretty much bog standard

DOA3 = DOA2 they play the same although DOA3 looks absolutely wonderful, and the designer comes over as an arrogant cock, but hey, they can't all be Miyamoto ;)

[sytaylor]

My PS2 games...
Smackdown 3
GT3
GTA3
Time Crisis 2...

pattern? i had my dc since european launch day... ive played such joys as jet set radio, shenmue and crazy taxi... damn people missed out on the dc

[Smiff]

I don't normally care about these things and I dont even play video games any more (30 seconds in PJ aint gaming my friends ;)) yet I will be upset if the GCN doesnt do well. To me that would be a case of the business (MS) beating the artist (N) and videogaming in general is still a young art form, it needs original thinkers to save it from mass replicated mediocrity (does anyone know what im talking about?)

[sytaylor]

Originally posted by Smiff
I don't normally care about these things and I dont even play video games any more (30 seconds in PJ aint gaming my friends ;)) yet I will be upset if the GCN doesnt do well. To me that would be a case of the business (MS) beating the artist (N) and videogaming in general is still a young art form, it needs original thinkers to save it from mass replicated mediocrity (does anyone know what im talking about?)

yep, but i think the business (Sony) out played the artists (Sega) long ago, and the N64 was too little too late, plus the saturn was the best console ever IMHO

[Raging Fuel]

Originally posted by Oleg Zaks
Oh man, that caricature is so fucking dumb, Halo is SO much better than that. I bet it was made by some friggin Nintendo fanboy, that never actually saw the real game.

Actually the guys at penny arcade own all the systems and if you visited their site regularly you would know that they aren't just fan boys. How much of Halo have you played?

[Smiff]

I'm noticing the most wonderful irony (well, not the most wonderful, but nice none the less).... GCN supporters seem to be, on the whole, more mature than Xbox supporters.... exactly the opposite of what's "supposed" to be the case.... hmm?!

I'm really talking about a great thread on Timmy Eckel's site.

[Raging Fuel]

I suppose most of the people that like Nintendo are actually into gaming because of the games, and not because there is an ad for it on TV, and therefore know their shit;)

[DuDe]

Originally posted by Raging Fuel


How much of Halo have you played?

Aboout 3 days now, since I got the X-box and the games.

[sytaylor]

Originally posted by Raging Fuel
I suppose most of the people that like Nintendo are actually into gaming because of the games, and not because there is an ad for it on TV, and therefore know their shit;)

And have probably been into games quite a while too, sony have the 10 year old market sown up.. ninty have the baby to toddle market, and some of the mid to late teen market too

[DuDe]

Originally posted by Raging Fuel
I suppose most of the people that like Nintendo are actually into gaming because of the games, and not because there is an ad for it on TV, and therefore know their shit;)

Heh? And what the f*** do you mean by that, that if a dude plays anything that isn`t Nintendo, than he doesn`t know crap in games?

[bodie]

nothing like a console debate to open up a can of worms ..whatever system someone chooses is their preference and as long as that person is happy with 'said' choice then that's good
i personally wouldn't mind all of them
regards bodie :)

[blizz]

Dreamcast vs X-Box (aka DC2)

cheap vs Very expensive
Shemue 2 now vs Shemue 2 next year
Sega vs Microsoft

and for another reason just watch Steve Balmer of M$ prance about

http://216.74.100.93/~flamebox/maccomedy/Movies/developers.mpg

http://216.74.100.93/~flamebox/maccomedy/Movies/dancemonkeyboy.mpg

:D

[RatTrap]

yes.. and it's the main reason i believe the GC has nothing to fear from the competition.. even the PS2 is abit like the X-Box.. it's like.. in between the X-Box and the GC.. i think i'll get me an X-Box one day.. but i'm sure i'll never need to buy games for it.. coz i bet i'll use it to play PJ64 X-box version :p..

[sk8bloke22]

played all 3. xbox has the worst controller and look ive eva experienced. its soo bulky, and the buttons are utter shit. the cube easily has the best controller (omg its good for tony hawks 3). halo and DOA3 look fucking incredible. theres no denying it. when i played DOA3, Smash Brothers:Melee was being directly under it, and i know its a bad comaprison, the gfx looked awful on the gamecube, even though they werent, as the xbox gfx were sooooo good.

but the cube is the best but will probably do the worst. ps2 is pretty close, but will be most successful, and is definitely more worthwhile due to the fact that its also a PS1, and has a much bigger library. but the Xbox, im not sure, itll probably be successful. when u see how big it is, it makes u wonder, it just looks like a flashy desktop case (the case which aint a tower, forgotten its name), and when its opened up, it looks like a normal pc. so all i need is a geforce 3, and someone to work out how to get those games to work on a pc

:devil:

[Harteex]

In that case you would need a kind of an OS that only ran the game, or it would be very laggy...

[TheWizard112]

Hi everyone. I have noticed that noone has yet to mention a very important aspect of gaming: multiplayer!! i know that xbox will have online support to play over the net and all, but i have seen absolutely nothing fun for it in terms of multiplayer. Nintendo on the other hand has always kicked everyone elses ass in terms of multiplayer game with releases like mariokart, goldeneye, conkers bad fur day and super smash brothers. sony.... well.... i personally have yet to see a game released for the psx or ps2 that i have liked. not a single one.

Now as for xbox vs gamecube, xbox is slightly superior in terms of graphics, but remember its the gameplay and the games that truly make the system, and xbox does not yet have any hard core titles that will blow people away like "the legend of zelda" series or anything like that. now the cube in terms of graphics looks awesome!! the xbox does have better graphics, but unless it starts putting out some truly killer games (it has a few games thus far that a lot of people like, nothing i have liked yet though), i dont think it will last very long.

i have played all 3 systems, all the games that are available for the xbox and gamecube i have played, and if xbox starts making better games in the future then what they have so far then i might buy one. i will most definitely be buying a gamecube though!! if things keep going the way they are so far, then i personally see the gamecube being the dominant system 2 years from now. i see sony as being a room mate with sega in "the poor house" 2 years from now.well, thats all. sorry for making this so long.

[Raging Fuel]

Originally posted by Oleg Zaks


Heh? And what the f*** do you mean by that, that if a dude plays anything that isn`t Nintendo, than he doesn`t know crap in games?

I was wondering if someone would prove Smiff right by replying like that. Don't take what I said so seriously. That's why there was a ';)'

[flow``]

screw that netplay.. dc has netplay (supposedly) but has anyone ever tried it or continued to use it

the ps2, xbox, and gc do also but its pointless...

its good for lans i suppose, but for it to be an actual netplay the pc will always rule in terms of online gaming w/ chat and actual interaction along with the gaming itself

[zeus]

That couldn´t be more true, the world isn´t ready for netplay yet and still some companys, if not all, are trying to give the consumers an amazing experince w/ netplay but since most games doesn´t support netplay, and I have never seen or heard of anyone using it, I guess there is no need for it. The xbox will probaly allow this type of person-to-person communication but only the true entusiasts will use it, hopefully nobody.;)

And we all know that the dc is the catch of the year cos it´s cheap, esp. in the us, and has many great titles.:D

Has anyone tried to use a ntsc dc on a pal tv with pal games, first a 230>110v adapter must be used but what else do I need to make it work like a pal dc on my pal telly. The tv I´m currently using has S-video input, when using it with pal systems the screen becomes black and white, does this mather. I think that the same problem happpens when playing imported games, ntsc, on an pal tv or a pal console.

[blizz]

Most modern TV's support both Pal and NTSC, if the display is in black and white then you need to get a device to reduce the 60Hz refresh of NTSC down to 50Hz of pal, or get a VGA box so that you can plug you're DC into your PC monitor and then you can play the games on your monitor

[Raging Fuel]

Originally posted by Oleg Zaks


Aboout 3 days now, since I got the X-box and the games.

And what do you think of it? As good as it was supposed to be? I originally thought it was going to be these big outdoor areas, but from what I've seen and heard there isn't much of that. Is that true?

Damn Australia, not getting next-gen systems til next year :(

[blizz]

Originally posted by Raging Fuel

And what do you think of it? As good as it was supposed to be? I originally thought it was going to be these big outdoor areas, but from what I've seen and heard there isn't much of that. Is that true?

I found Halo to be pretty much a standard FPS beneath the polish it carries. I'm not a great fan of FPS though.

[DuDe]

It is rather good. Halo has a very nice AI in it, but the biggest thing in it are the graphics, they are awesome. Great lighting, and a nice use of FSAA. Great fps too. I also have DOA3, which essentially plays a lot like DOA2, but that`s not really a bad thing imho, since I liked it too. But the graphics in most of the games is unbelievable, a specially DOA3. I have Gotham street racing as well, but i`m not into driving games, so I haven`t played it much. It has great car models though, and very big environments.
The main drawback are the controllers, hard to get used to... But it gets really comfortable after a while, a specially for Halo.

Oh, and we don`t have X-boxes in Israel either, my girlfriend returned from a trip in the USA a few days ago, and I asked her to get me one...

[sytaylor]

Originally posted by flow``
screw that netplay.. dc has netplay (supposedly) but has anyone ever tried it or continued to use it


yeah the quake 3 on the dc with mouse and keyboard was excellent!!! seriously, its better than the internet servers with my 56k!!

[sk8bloke22]

nope, i definitely hate the xbox. played it again today. doa2 looked so good (i mean the crowd in the level with the cage, etc) , but in my opinion, metal gear solid 2, which was on the tv set underneath, was years more impressive. oh and played monkey ball on the gamecube, and it sooooooooooo good.

[Harteex]

Just because you like the other systems better, why do you hate Xbox?

[Harteex]

Xbox Is Winning

http://xbox.ign.com/news/40221.html

[sk8bloke22]

one becos its ugly, expensive and has the worst controller ever invented - the dpad is like some sort of mix between an anologue and a normal dpad, so when u press up, it goes up-left or up-right, it makes me go crazy. many of the games are all show and no depth. i believe halo is a fantastic game, and is certainly worth the money. but the others are mostly ports, so u can basically play them on other systems. in fact halo will be on the pc. project gotham is the sequal to msr, doa3 is doa2 with fancy gfx (very fancy gfx). tony hawks 2x... need i say more.

i know ive completely over-exagerated there, as there are some good titles on the xbox. its just microsoft will try their best to win the games market...and sony will be able to compete...i dont think nintendo can..

[blizz]

Originally posted by sk8bloke22
sony will be able to compete...i dont think nintendo can..

rather foolish to count out the most experianced of the lot, not to mention the only one with Resi Evil, given that Nintendo is aiming at a different market to M$ and Sony I think they may have a future, every one thought that the Genesis had them beat once ;)

Harteex:
1. that is ign the crack whore of press releases
2. only microsoft knows how many it shipped, and it's not going to release small figures is it ;)

[zeus]

Originally posted by Harteex
Xbox Is Winning

http://xbox.ign.com/news/40221.html

Are they?

http://cube.ign.com/news/40225.html

http://cube.ign.com/news/40229.html

Since their stats are gathered from the same place, niether of them are lieing nor are they telling they truth. The are bending it, destorting it to suit their needs. Accoring to your link x-box is the winner but another ign network site says the exact opposite, but if there is any company I would expect lies from it´s Ms. They have done it before and the worst thing is that they are good at it.

And in a couple of years if Nintendo fails to make ends meet, is that possible given thought that gba is selling faster then butter melts under the sun, I know who to blaim. Ms for streamlining the market and the consumers for being fools, since when is gfx more important then gameplay?

[flow``]

most of the newer consoles (ps2/xbox/DC) were aimed at adults say.. 15+

whereas the GC seems to cover the kid games (like SSB, mario, mario kart, ect) and adult games (rogue leader) and have a little bit of each but have a better grip on the kids

the xbox, dc, psx2 are all fighting for the same market and the GC seems to stand alone gaining more of the "kid" market and yet having there little slice of the adult market

and anyone who's ever grown up around gaming knows nintendo and their games, and quality; as well as what to expect in the future.. (*cough* sega.. remember the 32x, sega cd, and saturn)

xbox.. AKA "mini computer".. bah, buy a computer instead, i expect them to have a much smaller library compared to other consoles and the only way it will survive is to have a decent library which i doubt will happen

ps2 is sorta old but it will probably out live the DC and xbox i'd imagine.. good console, cheap, and worth getting if you dont want to wait for prices to drop

as far as the DC... err i dont know.. wasn't much of a fan of it and didn't seem to have a lot of games worth getting

[blizz]

Originally posted by flow``
as far as the DC... err i dont know.. wasn't much of a fan of it and didn't seem to have a lot of games worth getting

that's true I only bought 6 games for my DC I got good life out of them, but since console makers live of game sales that's actually pretty bad

[Method Man]

My money is with X-Box.

[Raging Fuel]

I find it interesting that so many people see the N64 as a failure for Nintendo. I know Nintendo saw it completely differently. The last three years Nintendo has made more than four times its closest competitor (which I think is EA). I think Nintendo know what they are doing and will continue to make gaming consoles even is they don't sell as well as the competition.

Anyway, in my opinion the Xbox and GC are the only two consoles (apart from DC) that are any good. I will go for GC simply for the reason that I resent Microsoft trying to rule everything electronic in my house. I know it's a pretty stupid reason, but it's the truth. And I'm pretty sure there are many others who feel the same way.

[Harteex]

I think Gamecube looks good, but I do think Xbox looks better.
I haven't heard or seen much from Playstation 2.

And I don't see N64 as a failure for Nintendo

[Macca]

The 64 was a ripper not a failure. I think it revolutionised gaming, it really brought that 'wow' factor with so many cool games.

What about Zelda as i'm sure you all know and then there was Mario and Goldeneye. These games really changed gaming for me. :D

[Slougi]

Originally posted by blizz
Most modern TV's support both Pal and NTSC, if the display is in black and white then you need to get a device to reduce the 60Hz refresh of NTSC down to 50Hz of pal, or get a VGA box so that you can plug you're DC into your PC monitor and then you can play the games on your monitor
Actually if the scrren is only black and white on a pal tv, then it has no probs with 60hz. The black and white thing is because of how the colours are transmitted in ntsc. i.e. for example the pal dc's have a 60 hz pal mode and that is NOT the same as ntsc

[sk8bloke22]

the reason why i think gamecube will lose out to sony and microsoft isnt due to the fact that nintendo has most experience. i dont think experience will help it, these are changing times in the industry, and now even little kids would rather hav a more grown up console. the cube may hav aldult games to offer, but no way near at the mo anyway) the range offered by the other consoles. as i said i like the cube best. just dont think itll be successful. hopefully ill be wrong.

[blizz]

he also said he had s-video input, since I've only seen that on tv's which support nearlly everything (NTSC Pal50/60 Secam....) It was a bit odd anyway

so would Pal60 be the signal though the scart socket?

[sytaylor]

Originally posted by blizz


that's true I only bought 6 games for my DC I got good life out of them, but since console makers live of game sales that's actually pretty bad

you what?!?!?!?! i have about 20 games and i love em allll:colgate: :colgate: :colgate:

[pj64er]

Macca, what do u mean by 'ripper'?

[Macca]

ripper = really good

its my aussie slang slipping out again :p

[64ultramaniac]

Originally posted by sk8bloke22
the reason why i think gamecube will lose out to sony and microsoft isnt due to the fact that nintendo has most experience. i dont think experience will help it, these are changing times in the industry, and now even little kids would rather hav a more grown up console. the cube may hav aldult games to offer, but no way near at the mo anyway) the range offered by the other consoles. as i said i like the cube best. just dont think itll be successful. hopefully ill be wrong.


Maybe you're right but really why someone would like to play adult games if they are crap?And from the other hand classic games can't be called childish.Mario64 for example,this game doesn't have an age limit,kids,teenagers,adults all love it.And Nintendo is the company who knows more than anyone else how to make such great games,no mistake about that.And I have the faith that people still are looking for great games not just adult ones.Especially looking at Nintendo's sales which outperformed easily the "big" Ms.

[Eagle]

Be carefull how you use the terms "adult games" ;)

[blizz]

Originally posted by Eagle
Be carefull how you use the terms "adult games" ;)

the images are already appearing in my head :D

[sk8bloke22]

ur right. but adult games just do sell better (im guessing that btw). its becos they're so 'cool' . :cool:

[Harteex]

Originally posted by 64ultramaniac


And I have the faith that people still are looking for great games not just adult ones.


Great games, that's peoples different opinions so it's not right to say it so.

[pj64er]

i think great games as in great gameplay.

good gameplay is universal :)

[DuDe]

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And I have the faith that people still are looking for great games not just adult ones.
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And I have the fate that people are still looking for great games, and not just games that are made only by a certain company which name starts with an "N" and ends with an "intendo".

[64ultramaniac]

Originally posted by Oleg Zaks
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Originally posted by 64ultramaniac


And I have the faith that people still are looking for great games not just adult ones.
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And I have the fate that people are still looking for great games, and not just games that are made only by a certain company which name starts with an "N" and ends with an "intendo".

Why are you so nervous my friend?Maybe because you're a little disapointed that your so beloved Microsoft doesn't seem(until now)to manage to rule AND the console world?I was just stating my opinion with arguments,why can't you state your opinion too with some arguments,nice n' easily?And for your information that company that her name starts with N and ends with intendo,well her name is Nintendo and happens to be the company with the greatest history in that area which is called videogames.

[Cyberman]

Why are you so nervous my friend?Maybe because you're a little disapointed that your so beloved Microsoft doesn't seem(until now)to manage to rule AND the console world?I was just stating my opinion with arguments,why can't you state your opinion too with some arguments,nice n' easily?And for your information that company that her name starts with N and ends with intendo,well her name is Nintendo and happens to be the company with the greatest history in that area which is called videogames.

Well.. lots of money helps and good marketing..
sadly good systems can fail, I hope Nintendo does ok.. but I am no fan of either them or sony or microsoft. All of them are a bit shady in there character :)

I do own a PS2 though ;)

Cyb

[Raging Fuel]

Originally posted by Cyberman



sadly good systems can fail,

As Sega recently proved.

[Eagle]

This thread needs to end, its nothing but bickering. Personally, I like the Idea of the PS2. The one thing I have always hated about consoles, and why I love PC, is the fact that (for the most part) you can still play the older games. The PS2 provides this by allowing the PSX games to be played on it. I think they are all good systems, but I'll probably never own any of them. The N64 was the last console I owned and probably will be the last now that I have my PC.

[crhylove]

i am a MAJOR tech head, and game junkie, but i have to be blatantly honest and say, i play dr. mario on zsnes more often than quake 3 on my computer, or any other console game.

however, broad apeal is what sells games, and broad appeal is therefore what sells consoles.

most people i know never even SAW the dc. so how would a game even be in the running for broad appeal?

everybody and their dog has seen all 3 (ps2, gc, xb) all over the place, and personally, i would've liked to have seen "mario 128" or something on the GC. luigi's mansion BLEW BIG CHUNKS. mario 64 is a vastly superior game, as far as it's playability, and it's broad appeal. space sim, fps, and racers (the other games out for the new 3) are all over, and there's good ones already. i LOVED gran turismo on psx, and quake 3 on computer. only really addictive games like n64's :puzzle league, mario 64, dr. mario (with 4 players) will sell consoles, and only if people can't do it on computer or xbox or ps2. cuz otherwise, people will buy the others with dvd/better gfx/more titles. anyone seen madden 2001? THAT'S a killer app.

don't get your feelings hurt. i hate ALL the corporations. that's why i refuse to actually BUY a console and am so into emulation.

besides some of the original nes games are mroe fun than any of the latest stuff, as the success of the GBA proved with it's portable super mario 2. Nintendo is smart cuz it diversifies, and dominates in the portable sector where PC's are FAR too expensive to be toys (laptops about $1000, GBA about $100).

until laptops and tft's come WAY down nintendo will have a market. although i doubt it will be a console much longer.

that being said, why even buy an xbox for a second? unless you ABSOLUTELY must have the res of halo/doa3/madden2001, there's no point. i'll play a lower res q3/mario64/zelda (the original NES one) over those games any day. they're MORE FUN.

rhy:devil:

[Harteex]

Originally posted by 64ultramaniac


Why are you so nervous my friend?Maybe because you're a little disapointed that your so beloved Microsoft doesn't seem(until now)to manage to rule AND the console world?I was just stating my opinion with arguments,why can't you state your opinion too with some arguments,nice n' easily?And for your information that company that her name starts with N and ends with intendo,well her name is Nintendo and happens to be the company with the greatest history in that area which is called videogames.

and he just stated his opinion too "nice n' easily"...
and just because he likes Xbox, that doesn't mean he loves Microsoft...

[DuDe]

Originally posted by 64ultramaniac


And for your information that company that her name starts with N and ends with intendo,well her name is Nintendo

duh?! Whatever dude, you missed the whole point.

"Nervous", lol, why would I be nervous? After all, I HAVE an X-box, while you are protecting a system you have seen only through screenshots and demo movies. Anyway, if you had read any of my posts on the subject, you`ll see that I never said stuff like "GC sucks", or "SSB melee is the same SSB from the N64, except from the graphics", or "Rogue leader is just another plain space shootout", like the stuff you`ll see here about the X-box. You know why? Because I`m being friggin objective, that`s why. I chose an X-box for the GC because I prefer its games, and not because I hate Miyamoto (I don`t, I`m just giving an example). What I DO hate, is fanboys that spill trash on other systems, just cause the hate Gates, or Miyamoto, or whatever. And I belive I have stated my opinion well now.


"and he just stated his opinion too "nice n' easily"... "
Heh, Harteex, I believe you`re the only onee that understood what i said in that post there :)

[blizz]

I've played both and I know what I'll be buying in the coming months, and that's a GC, I'll probably get an X-Box too but only when it's a £100, same for the PS2 :D

It's all about preference

[pj64er]

thats not preference thats thinking with ur wallet!

[blizz]

Originally posted by pj64er
thats not preference thats thinking with ur wallet!

yeah :D

[pj64er]

:hrm:

i guess nintendo did play their cards right. Their plain (ie no hard driver, dvd, modem, internal combustion engine...) system made the other ones seem expensive in contrast.

[Raging Fuel]

I agree. I think that both the Xbox and Gamecube are good systems, but the main reason I won't be getting an Xbox (at least for awhile) is thats its too expensive (that, and I hate MS ;))

[Jaz]

Originally posted by blizz
a wise person would be buying a DC right now though, cheap as chips and great games, And as usual, I agree with you.. Dreamcast still takes pride of place under my TV, with my PS2 (vertically) standing beside it. ;)

[Jaz]

Oh, and yes, I'm buying a NGC. And no, I'm not buying an XBox. ;)

[blizz]

Originally posted by Jaz
Oh, and yes, I'm buying a NGC. And no, I'm not buying an XBox. ;)

*cough cough cough* said he'd never buy a PS2 *cough cough cough* ;)

if it's cheap you will ;)

[Jaz]

Originally posted by blizz
*cough cough cough* said he'd never buy a PS2 *cough cough cough* ;)*rotflmao* I never said that, did I?! ;) Come on.. £100 ain't bad.. for a DVD player. ;)
But seriously, GTA3 kicks ass.. :alien:
And they were right, PS2 makes a great DC stand.. :cool: