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[Gamer123]

In Nemu 8.0 will the input plugin be NRage compatible? If not, is it the input plugin going to be a bit easier to configure, because I know with the current release its hard to configure my joystick because I have to figure out which button number is what, and I have to scroll down the long list of possible controls to get there. Just a suggestion in the future release.

[Ruesselschnurps]

As far as i remember Lemmy said that NEMU 0.8 will be compatible to Zilmar's Specs (Audio, Graphic & Input) to have an alternative to the internal Plugins.

[mesman00]

neh, if i'm correct its not zilmar spec, am i correct?

[Ruesselschnurps]

The Video/Audio and Input Stuff that comes with Nemu is in a Nemu specific format and not compatible with other EMUS.
But you'll still be able to use Plugins compatible with Zilmar's Specs as an alternative.

[Lemmy]

No it won't be zilmar spec. thats clearly stated on nemu.com

[Tesla-Guy]

D'oh, Ruesselschnurps, don't defend things you aren't sure they are correct ;)

[Ruesselschnurps]

Sorry, but thats the way i understood it.....hope Lemmy isn't angry about me for telling such sh*t....:cry:

[Lemmy]

I am. You won't get any more beta from me from now on. j/k

[yogaman]

UFF where the hell is the j/k written in Lemmy's post?? :D ......oh,oh....Rüssel- if lemmy is the bad tempered guy I imagin he is ;) - u can forget the betas :hrm: ....

nice anyway to see lemmy checks on this site :cool:

[Lemmy]

there it is

[Ruesselschnurps]

Damm! What should i leak in the future if i get no betas ? ;)

[Tesla-Guy]

Originally posted by yogaman
UFF where the hell is the j/k written in Lemmy's post?? :D ......oh,oh....Rüssel- if lemmy is the bad tempered guy I imagin he is ;) - u can forget the betas :hrm: ....

nice anyway to see lemmy checks on this site :cool:
Chrm :hrm: Lemmy prolly thought Ruesselscnurps would have enough brain to figure that that was a joke ;)

[Lemmy]

thought so, yes.

i know it wasn't funny, but this internet: every joke gets multiplied by 10x.

what was 0 * 10 again? hrm....

[Tesla-Guy]

No, the joke was funny, i laughed :P

[Slougi]

LMAO! That was funny.
Now do I get a beta? :alien:
:P :nemu:

[Ruesselschnurps]

It was kind of funny since i wasn't aware of the j/k , and so i thought Lemmy has confused me with someone else. Which is very unrealistic because i think there aren't many NEMU beta Testers out there..........

Tesla or Lemmy please close this thread. Everything important has been said...so its just spamming !

[crhylove]

Just curious... I haven't really successfully run nemu on this machine... it's too old... :(

the latest 1964 worx pretty dang good though, particularly games that can run in 32 bit mode.

:devil:

[yogaman]

hey that with the j/k part was just me joking ;) .....well, anybody could figure out that Rüssel- doesn't have any betas :) !!

But I was just wondering : is Lemmy by the way German?? I mean, I never checked that but Emumaniac is and a few Nemufanatics are germans ......so?

hey Lemmy, if u feel insulted or anything.....just uncheck me of the beta list ;)

[Ruesselschnurps]

(This time i am sure what i'm talkin about)
Yes, Lemmy is German (read in an interview about it)

[Lemmy]

da hat der rüssel recht

[Ruesselschnurps]

Wußt ichs doch !

[Epic64]

er. What is 'enough of this beta talk' in German?

[Slougi]

Genug Beta-Gerede ;)

[yogaman]

Na Lemmy, ist LaC auch von Deutschland? Ich wusste gar nicht dass emulation in Deutschland Fuss fassen könnte (okay, ich komm von der Schweiz aber hier hat es so gut wie niemand der weiss was emulation ist!!!!!! Das ist schrecklich....... aber hey, kennt ihr euch persönlich ...ich meine Rüssel oder Emumaniac oder Lemmy oder "Hans" oder "Frank"? ...

tschau,

@epic: "genug in Englisch über die Betas geredet, lasst ein bisschen Kultur in die Sache rein ;)"

[Tesla-Guy]

STOP posting in German
Thread locked
Damn i must add something like "No posts in other languages than English except if referring to someone specifficaly." to the Rules Thread

[Lemmy]

LaC hab ich noch nie gesehen. Also nur auf Fotos. Der wohnt in Kanada.

EmuManiac hab ich mal besucht, der ist korrekt. Von Rüssel kenn ich nur das Foto das er als Pic jeder neben msg hat :) Cooler Nick übrigens

[Lemmy]

ok back to english. how do i unlock threads? hrm not too familiar with those admin options here....

[Lemmy]

Ah that is how it works. Sorry Tesla but this is about the only interesting thread here

[Smiff]

Just because we have an English-only rule in PJ forum doesnt mean you have to have it here, if Lemmy wants to allow German in his forum he can allow German in his forum.

[Ruesselschnurps]

I dont think anyone needs that,but its LEMMY's decision! But it would make the hole thing too exclusive. If someone from germany doesn't speak english good enough to post here, he can post on the messageboard of EmuManiacs Nemu64 INI Page since there is a special german section there !

P.S: If someone is really interested to know how i look like, you can move to this thread:
http://www.emutalk.net/showthread.php?s=&postid=20477#post20477
it would be nice if you could post a picture of yourself too !!

[Epic64]

That's interesting so you've never personally met LaC because he lives in Canada? Perhaps you could tell us some more interesting things Lemmy in German if you want!

Betas Nemu existierenen nicht!

[mesman00]

farfen-nugen ;)

[yogaman]

hey lemmy....... I more an more get the impression that u have been checking onthis site very often but never posted (because the posts sucked or contained "when do u release" etc.).

It's pretty interesting .... that one of the best emucoders is a german ;) .... but how did u get to know a Canadian?? I mean, maybe u told in a interview (/lazy here) but did u meat on IRC or what? ...... u r not living in München r u? Bayern München gehts ja nicht alzu gut, eh? .... and Stefan Raab is not ur dad, is he ;) (okay that would really explain a lot :) ). And by the way - sorry tesla for exclusive stuff.....but at least I am not writing in german.

[Lemmy]

well i replied to a thread once and then turned on email notification - so i basically got every reply. but yes - many posts were really boring to me.

we met each other on irc - at first he helped and after a while i managed to make him join the team. best decision i ever made for nemu :)

and no i don't live in berlin - other side of germany. host me?

[Ruesselschnurps]

"Other side" vertical or horizontal ?

[Lemmy]

vertical

[Ruesselschnurps]

Would you get angry if i call you "******" ? (not meant serious)
***** was inserted because i got aware that some people would misunderstood it....

[yogaman]

hey Rüssel....would u get angry if I called u "Saukopf"?

[Ruesselschnurps]

Not really, because sometimes i am !

[Tesla-Guy]

Originally posted by Smiff
[quote]Just because we have an English-only rule in PJ forum doesnt mean you have to have it here, if Lemmy wants to allow German in his forum he can allow German in his forum.
Do you? :P

[crhylove]

Ich bin Juden! Kein deutsch! Ich kann es nicht haben!

lol...

Wirklich mein grosseltern sind Deutsch, Mein Grossvater war in der Luftwaffe! Wie leicht das ist wie ich bin so gut mit der n64 spielen, Deutsch hand und eugen co-ordination!

:devil:

[yogaman]

I'm so fucking mad.......that **** of a smiff goes around "hating the nemu-loving germans" ..... well, I'm not a german - but this shouldn't be tolerated!! What the hell does he think he is - Churchill ? ....and referring to the 2nd world war and crap .....man I just hate that guy :pissed: - I didn't like him before but now he's really getting unbearable!

grr.....sorry......for the off-topic post!! (acutally all the posts were off-topic ;))

[Smiff]

ROTFLMAO

:colgate:

Racism is not funny ok, and has no place in an emulation forum.

[Remote]

/me yawns and remebers the old times when the internet did not exist, when kids played with branches instead of knives, leaves instead of grass and flower instead of cocaine...

Although WWII occured 50+ years earlier, the war and what happened should never be forgotten, it is a constant reminder of how smart an induvidial can be and how stupid a crowd can be. I am not saying that all germans were responsible for the terrible events taking place duing WWII, with the circumstanses taken into consideration it becomes clear that they had no choice, but if the English, with a lot of finacial help from the Americans, had not eliminated the german threat we would live in a cruel society where one human life is not worth more then a slice of bread...

And regarding the Nemu / German situation, of course germans should be proud over what they have accomplished but there is no need to shout it all over. And yogaman you should know that Churchill is way out of your league, atleast when it comes to debating, drinking and controlling countries...

[Lemmy]

Originally posted by Remote
...it is a constant reminder of how smart an induvidial can be and how stupid a crowd can be...


who is that smart individual you were talking about?

[hotshitu]

Originally posted by Lemmy



who is that smart individual you were talking about?


Me, of course :D.

[sytaylor]

Originally posted by Lemmy



who is that smart individual you were talking about?

think 50 years ago, short dark haired facist? to be honest i think everyone knows WWII was a fuck up beyond all beleif, many innocent people lost their lives for both sides... but we're talkin emulation here... Lemmy AND LaC have given the whole world something brilliant in NEMU... and rejoice, theyre workin on another! :nemu:

[Smiff]

no, I think he was making a general point about human behaviour... like no one German could come up with a pretty complete plan to exterminate the Jews, but a group could, and did.

Well anyway, this is not very relevant to Nemu in any way I can see.

[Remote]

Originally posted by Lemmy



who is that smart individual you were talking about?

Well, I can see where you are going but I was not refering to one specific person, i.e Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin, Augusto Pinochet, Benito Musolini, but to all of them. They led their countires into war with selfish purposes, greed?, concincing their people it was for a greater cause, their cause, greed?, After the Wall Street crash in the 30's millions of people lost all their assests, so greed is not the right word, but they followed the man who they believed could restore thier missory.

And eventhough Adolf Hitler was a evil man, who slaughtred millions of innocent people, he did accomplish good things. Germany has a great infrastructure, autobahn, due to his expansion plans. It shows what the right man at the right place can accomplish at the right time, eventhough this example is badly chosen since almost everything Adolf Hitler did was miles away from the line that separetes insane from sick.

[Remote]

Originally posted by Smiff
no, I think he was making a general point about human behaviour... like no one German could come up with a pretty complete plan to exterminate the Jews, but a group could, and did.

Well anyway, this is not very relevant to Nemu in any way I can see.

Exactly, no man with his mind intact could possibly come up with the idea to exterminate millions of people but if you take millions of individuals and team them up in a group, their induvidial beliefs are lost, and what earlier seemed unpossible, the extinction, becomes possible.

And this is not Nemu nor emulation releated, but it is still important not to forget.

[Lemmy]

I wonder why everytime I mention I am German people start talking about WW2 and/or Hitler.

Like if I said something about american's bad history. Like how they expelled the red indians...


Anyway - i don't think Hitler was a smart guy. When he knew he lost he still told his army to fight until the last man dies. Not very clever imo. And his tactics were also bad. He completely underestimated the size of russia, its winter and many other things.

He probably had some intelligent heads around him but he was stupid and sick.

And now please do us all a favour and stop talking about things that ended 50 years ago

[Tesla-Guy]

He mightn't be smart, but he had the gift of convincing people and seeming to be wise... remember he was a painter before ;)

[Allnatural]

Originally posted by Gamer123
In Nemu 8.0 will the input plugin be NRage compatible? If not, is it the input plugin going to be a bit easier to configure, because I know with the current release its hard to configure my joystick because I have to figure out which button number is what, and I have to scroll down the long list of possible controls to get there. Just a suggestion in the future release.
Back to the original question...:lookaway: :colgate:

Ok Lemmy, you said that the next Nemu will not be zilmar spec (as stated on your site), but will the included input plugin be easier to configure? I must admit, selecting buttons from a drop-down list is cumbersome.:look:

No offense of course.:thumbsup:

[crhylove]

i didn't mean to start all kinds of ruckuss... and my grandfather WAS in the luftwaffe, but i think people should quit whining about WW2 already... it was fifty years ago!! who cares?!? and besides, whining for the jews and all, i mean, yeah, the third reich was an abomination, but the whole nation of isreal operates in a similar fashion TODAY. did u c the attack helicopter launching missiles into a school about a month ago? so GET OVER IT. already.

people don't kill people...
governments kill people.

jewish or german, nationalism is the real crime here.

rhy

[hotshitu]

Originally posted by Lemmy
I wonder why everytime I mention I am German people start talking about WW2 and/or Hitler.


Cause they're brainwashed? Try watching Fox News for half an hour in a row without getting sick and then tell me Americans (those who watch it anyway) aren't. No offense to all non-FoxNews-watching Americans, love your country => I am an Amerikaner. Hmm, pastry :)

[hotshitu]

Originally posted by crhylove
i and my grandfather WAS in the luftwaffe,
yadda yadda
GET OVER IT. already.

rhy

So was mine.
Getting over it is not the point. What worries me is that people might actually forget what happened like the genocide of a million Armenians, or British concentration camps in Africa
-cue RHSP "when history books are full of shit, i become the anarchist
I'm pissed at this
what this country claims to be
it's a lie
no place for me..."

[hotshitu]

Originally posted by Allnatural

Back to the original question...:lookaway: :colgate:

Ok Lemmy, you said that the next Nemu will not be zilmar spec (as stated on your site), but will the included input plugin be easier to configure? I must admit, selecting buttons from a drop-down list is cumbersome.:look:


Something tells me it won't be _harder_ to configure, erm.


Originally posted by Allnatural
No offense of course.:thumbsup:

What's that supposed to mean?

[Smiff]

I reckon every time someone asks, Lemmy makes it slightly harder to configure and adds a week to the release date. But I could be wrong about that.

[hotshitu]

Last I heard Lemmy was busy thinking up a cool proprietary extension for their ini file. Should take a while.

[Smiff]

Originally posted by hotshitu
Last I heard Lemmy was busy thinking up a cool proprietary extension for their ini file. Should take a while.

Maybe, depends how fast Lemmy works. I know I could think of a dozen extensions in a minute. I also heard that no one could give a shit what he called it, if it was available and it worked. Hypothetically speaking, of course.

[CpU MasteR]

Originally posted by Lemmy
No it won't be zilmar spec. thats clearly stated on nemu.com

OK, zilmar's spec. is out, But will your spec be released for other coders to use or not?

[flow``]

hehe
wonder what it could be :)
/pokes lemmy

[Lemmy]

Probably not. Right now I have five kinds of plugins:

1.) Video
2.) Audio
3.) Input
4.) Kaillera
5.) ToolPlugins

Only the ToolPlugins spec will be open. It allows people to add optional features, for example (but not limited to):

- cheating
- debuggers
- configuration tools.

Basically you add the .dll to the nemu folder and it will add new menu entries.

My own debugger is "just" a .dll, so I know those specs are powerful enough to all kind of neat stuff, probably things I didn't even think about.


About the input plugin I don't know yet. Right now it looks pretty similar to the last version, except for autoconfigure and modifiers. Will maybe change, maybe not. We'll see.

I have a personal deadline for the release date of the project so I'll see how much I can get done.

Better don't ask when the deadline will be :)

[Allnatural]

Originally posted by Lemmy
Better don't ask when the deadline will be :)
I wouldn't dream of it.;)

[Tesla-Guy]

I can guess... 1/1/2005 :P

[Ruesselschnurps]

Is it forbidden to ask how the Graphic PlugIn is progressing?

[Remote]

I would rather, it may be prohibitated, get a fast rundown of what we can expect from the audio plugin...

[flow``]

I would rather, it may be prohibitated, get a fast rundown of what we can expect from the audio plugin...

my best guess would have to be sound.. :)

[Remote]

Originally posted by flow``


my best guess would have to be sound.. :)

Well, I kind of expected that someone would say that, I guess I had it coming, and my male intuition is telling me that graphics quality is not an issue. Lemmy said in his newspost that LaC had got some unemulated effects working, perhaps they do not want to spoil the surprise.

[Ruesselschnurps]

...LaC got some cool stuff working in his audio dll - stuff, that was unemulated before ....
=unemulated Audio Stuff ,not Graphic ! (but maybe im wrong (again :D ))

[yogaman]

hmmm ....just to get this straight: Lemmy's doing the general coding stuff, right? And the gfx too - isn't he? LaC is responsible for the Audio ....

is that correct?

[Remote]

Originally posted by Ruesselschnurps

=unemulated Audio Stuff ,not Graphic ! (but maybe im wrong (again :D ))

I was, still am, refering to the audio plugin so of course it is audio stuff I am talking about. Eventhough this thread started with input it has moved in a much more interesting direction, i.e audio and graphics.

[Ruesselschnurps]

Damm...i should read posts more carefully before i answer..anyway im really excited about the "stuff that was unemulated before" in LaC's audio Plug.....the 20b Plugin was already awesome...in my opinion it offers the best audio quality you can get on any n64 emu...

[flow``]

from what i understand..

LaC = core/audio
Lemmy = gfx/gfx debugger

i'm sure they share and help each other with stuff though

[Allnatural]

This is what' s listed on Nemu's site:

Lemmy- Main coder (to which we can now add VideoHLE)

hwnd- VideoHLE (no longer on the team)

LaC- AudioHLE, Pif emulation, mempack/eeprom support

EmuManiac- Alpha tester

[Eddy]

Lemmy, i want to say that, wow the toolplugins system is killer! sounds cool! i love the idea! will we be able to manipulate some aspects of nemu along with it ?

[tomic20]

is this a time to ask about the progress on nemu?:devil: keep the doing good job

[CpU MasteR]

As far as GFX Goes, Will You be able to dump textures? Will you be able to be compatble with Video Cards Like Jabo's? Direct 3D, RGB or Refence rasterizer or all? All Microcodes are will be Supported? CPU: All Opcodes will be supported? Will You have fast CPU Emulation? Wll Flash RAM Be supported? ;) Audio: MP3 Emulation? HLE as well? Buffer will be improved for Lower class CPUs?
Sorry for the questions... just Like nemu alittle too much... :blush:

[Eddy]

take it easy cpu

[gokuss4]

cant wait for nemu 0.8 take yur time guys for it to be the greatest emu heres is the german version

schräg Wartezeit für nemu 0,8 Nehmen yur Zeit Halteseil für es zu sein d groß emu heres sein d deutsch Version

;) ;) :) :alien:

[Ruesselschnurps]

Let me guess, german isnt your mother language ?

[gokuss4]

umm... no :D i translated that message from... world altavista translations babel fish or somethin like that :blush: infact i only speak english anyway but i wanna learn japanese as my second language :) :D :colgate:

[Ruesselschnurps]

The thing you've posted in "german" is really hard to understand, but it sounds quite funny :D !

[gokuss4]

what did it mean anyway? the german thing i posted lol

[Ruesselschnurps]

schräg Wartezeit für nemu 0,8 Nehmen yur Zeit Halteseil für es zu sein d groß emu heres sein d deutsch Version



sloped waiting time for nemu 0.8 taking your time holding rope for it beeing d too big emu here be d german version

As you can see it doesn't make sense.

[i4get]

wow ... activity

[crhylove]

tchu:ss bis morgen mein schatz!

vielen dank!

:devil:

[Doomulation]

Originally posted by gokuss4
umm... no :D i translated that message from... world altavista translations babel fish or somethin like that :blush: infact i only speak english anyway but i wanna learn japanese as my second language :) :D :colgate:
Error with server. Ignore this post.

[crhylove]

i like the new avatar doom... much better. you're old one annoyed me and i don't know why.

anyway, congrats... :devil:

[Doomulation]

Originally posted by crhylove
i like the new avatar doom... much better. you're old one annoyed me and i don't know why.

anyway, congrats... :devil:
LOL! I just dunno why I chose my previous one...
Then when I tried to change I realized there was no other avatars....
Hmm, so I leeched somone's! :D

[mesman00]

Originally Posted by Yogaman
hmmm ....just to get this straight: Lemmy's doing the general coding stuff, right? And the gfx too - isn't he? LaC is responsible for the Audio ....

i'm almost 100% sure that Lemmy is focusing on the core, while lac is doing audio and graphics.

[Ruesselschnurps]

Lemmy is doing the Core,Input AND the Graphics, LaC Audio, Savegame emulation and other STuff...

[pj64er]

If u look at Nemu's homepage, LaC is also credited with pif emulation (tooie decryption).

[Lemmy]

Me:
- CPU Core
- Graphics
- Input (high level pif - lac calls my function)
- Savestates

LaC:
- Audio, including mp3
- Pif (low level emulation)
- Cracking / Debuging games (like Tooie)
- Code optimizations
- RSP


Hope that covered all. But we often have to work together on specific problems, for example it will be very difficult for me to emulate one specifc (yet unemulated) graphics ucode without his help.

[Ruesselschnurps]

It would be lame to ask which uCode you are talking about cough...........ähh..ohh..hrmpf..ähemRes ident....ohhEvil**?????? ;)

[Lemmy]

Actually Resident Evil is pretty low on my to - do list. I was refering to heightfield ucodes (Rogue Squadron and Naboo). I worked on them a few months ago but didn't finish my work there. I can see all the 3d models in Rogue Squadron but the ground is not visible, because it is - well - heightfield :-) Similar to an old PC game called Comanche.

Would take a lot of time to finish, so I decided its better to achieve good general compatibility. Especially with better games.

But these days (hrm...weeks or months) I hardly ever find the time to work on nemu, so progress is slow.

[Tri-Force]

you hear that people. progress is slow so dont ask when because if he's spending all his time reading your stupid mail or posts asking him when the it will be a VERY long time. not talking to the people with good questions like in this thread but to others.

[Doomulation]

Originally posted by Tri-Force
you hear that people. progress is slow so dont ask when because if he's spending all his time reading your stupid mail or posts asking him when the it will be a VERY long time. not talking to the people with good questions like in this thread but to others.
Don't discourage people even more about the release is going slow. It's enough that Lemmy said so.