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Allnatural
October 13th, 2004, 00:55
I've decided to expand beyond my PS2 collection (http://www.emutalk.net/showpost.php?p=238702&postcount=9). Yeah, I'm a freak...

Burnpro
October 13th, 2004, 01:18
mario sunshine!! do they finished it ? what a waste of a mini dvd..

ScottJC
October 13th, 2004, 02:08
they finished making mario sunshine years ago.. and what do you mean what a waste of a mini-dvd.. it was a very good game imo, just like Mario 64 with a water gun.

Hexidecimal
October 13th, 2004, 03:07
Both Excellent Choices!

2fast4u
October 13th, 2004, 09:52
mario sunshine!! do they finished it ? what a waste of a mini dvd..

have you been hiding under a rock for the last 2 years? :huh:

ah yeah, both great choices. if you havent played these you missed out imo :)

GogoTheMimic
October 13th, 2004, 23:27
Nice buy! I might just have to get Mario Sunshine one of these days, the squirt gun gameplay kinda turned me away from it when it first came out, definately interesting concept. *nod* And of course, Wind Waker ownz.

Allnatural
October 14th, 2004, 06:24
Damnit I wish I had started earlier. I really want a copy of Ikaruga, preferably new, but I doubt I'll find one locally.

*sigh* There is the eBay route, but the prices are so inflated...

Modem
October 14th, 2004, 07:53
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00008VFBV/qid%3D1097733049/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/104-0863565-9986340
Not too bad of a price. :)
- Modem

revl8er
October 14th, 2004, 08:38
Pretty good buy, I have both of those games and they are great. I bought Zelda for $5.99 at blockbuster though.

MasterPhW
October 14th, 2004, 18:24
OOMG... All my games were so expensive... 40 up to 55bucks... :(
Okay.. but I bought WW and SMS at their release... :P

Allnatural
October 14th, 2004, 18:55
OOMG... All my games were so expensive... 40 up to 55bucks... :(
Okay.. but I bought WW and SMS at their release... :P
Almost all of my games were bought at $20 or less. I'm patient, and there are plenty of games in the queue waiting to be played. Sooooo...for every 2 games my friends buy, I get 5. :P

revl8er
October 14th, 2004, 20:54
I got mario sunshine with my gamecube, and I just happened to go to blockbuster at a good time when they actually had a copy of windwaker for that cheap. Most of my other games were pretty cheap because I almost always buy used games unless I find a game I really wanna play.

Allnatural
October 14th, 2004, 23:07
Did some more shopping...

2fast4u
October 15th, 2004, 10:16
hrm :/

personally i was disappointed with rogue leader. it just seems like the game was released before actually getting finished, only paid 20 bucks though...

MasterPhW
October 15th, 2004, 14:47
How many you paid for these two?
BTW:impressive collection for the PS2!

Allnatural
October 15th, 2004, 15:30
How many you paid for these two?
$20 for each.

cooliscool
October 15th, 2004, 22:34
$20 each? My local EB Games has em each for $10, new.

Great purchases though. I admire you being able to wait for price drops. I wish I could. :P

Allnatural
October 16th, 2004, 16:01
$20 each? My local EB Games has em each for $10, new.

Great purchases though. I admire you being able to wait for price drops. I wish I could. :P
I'll never buy a *new* game from EB. Three times I've bought what were ostensibly new games, only to have them give me the manhandled case from the shelf and a disc pulled from a paper sleeve in a file cabinet. If it's not sealed it's not new as far as I'm concerned. Fuck EB.

DarthDazDC
October 16th, 2004, 21:03
how come u didnt get rouge squadron 3? thats a lot better than the 2nd (even though the second was really gud anyway :P), because its got the second game in multiplayer, and in single player u can control the player in third person!

GogoTheMimic
October 18th, 2004, 05:47
I'll never buy a *new* game from EB. Three times I've bought what were ostensibly new games, only to have them give me the manhandled case from the shelf and a disc pulled from a paper sleeve in a file cabinet. If it's not sealed it's not new as far as I'm concerned. Fuck EB.

Newsflash, most game places do the same thing. If people weren't such clepto-fucktards, companies would let live product on the shelves. Thank the thieving douchebags for why stores gut product before they put it out and don't take it out on EB.

Edit: On topic of the post: I wish I would've picked up Ikaruga when I saw it for 20 bucks. :/ Wait a minute, I think we still have a copy in back stock at work. @_@;;

Allnatural
October 18th, 2004, 14:33
Newsflash, most game places do the same thing. If people weren't such clepto-fucktards, companies would let live product on the shelves. Thank the thieving douchebags for why stores gut product before they put it out and don't take it out on EB.
I'm aware that Gamestop does the same thing (sometimes) which also pisses me off, but every game I've bought from GS has been sealed, and every game from EB has been gutted. I am inclined to blame the stores. Are you saying they couldn't get an emtpy display case from the game companies? Toys R Us does.

Allnatural
October 19th, 2004, 22:54
Two more purchases. I managed to score a new/sealed copy of Ikaruga on eBay. w00t. :)

GogoTheMimic
October 20th, 2004, 18:29
I'm aware that Gamestop does the same thing (sometimes) which also pisses me off, but every game I've bought from GS has been sealed, and every game from EB has been gutted. I am inclined to blame the stores. Are you saying they couldn't get an emtpy display case from the game companies? Toys R Us does.

Gamestop does it just as much as EB, they need display cases too. When we get display cases, we use them in lieu of the actual cases but not everyone sends out display cases for us to use. All the Toys R Us's that I've been to had their games behind glass cases or in those clunky plastic anti-theft things like Circuit City. Regardless, I'm sorry that you've had bad luck getting games from EB.

Allnatural
October 20th, 2004, 19:15
Gamestop does it just as much as EB, they need display cases too. When we get display cases, we use them in lieu of the actual cases but not everyone sends out display cases for us to use. All the Toys R Us's that I've been to had their games behind glass cases or in those clunky plastic anti-theft things like Circuit City. Regardless, I'm sorry that you've had bad luck getting games from EB.
I can only cite my own personal experience with both stores (locally). If Gamestop ever attempts to sell me a gutted game I'll turn it down. Despite their claims, the condition (again, in my experience) is never as pristine as you'd expect from a *new* game.

I suppose I shouldn't be so hard on EB though. I have found some good deals on used games.

AlphaWolf
October 21st, 2004, 06:15
Hmm...I still don't even know anybody who knows somebody who owns a gamecube.

zAlbee
October 21st, 2004, 07:15
gamecube's wicked... i used to not know anyone with an xbox. but then i came to uni and got addicted to Project Gotham Racing for 5 months. :icecream:

it sometimes makes me sad that there are so many games out there, that you can't help but miss out on some of the great ones.

ever since my buddies and i started to play warcraft3 online again, i haven't touched a console or emulated game :(. although we've played tons of multi N64/PS1/PS2 (with multitaps), i still have this huge list of N64 single player games and RPG's that I swear I will one day finish/try :P.

Cheezey
October 26th, 2004, 00:27
I've decided to expand beyond my PS2 collection (http://www.emutalk.net/showpost.php?p=238702&postcount=9). Yeah, I'm a freak...

They must of seen you coming. They WTFPWNZ0RED YOU.

Stalkid64
October 26th, 2004, 00:40
Two more purchases. I managed to score a new/sealed copy of Ikaruga on eBay. w00t. :)
There should be a safety notice. "WARNING: This product contains a quote from IGN. May not be suitable for discerning gamers, or people with an IQ over 6."

You can just see the value of copies of Ikaruga suddenly dropping dramatically when people realise that... ;)

DuDe
October 26th, 2004, 21:22
Wow, Stalkid says that IGN is bad. Maybe I should stop reading it or something.

g00beRz
October 27th, 2004, 01:28
Awww, I never did get to play that game. Always wanted to. (:

Hexidecimal
October 27th, 2004, 03:50
Picked up Vexx tonight for 19.01 and Super Mario World for 6 dollars.

Modem
October 27th, 2004, 10:04
Picked up Vexx tonight for 19.01 and Super Mario World for 6 dollars.

No idea what vexx is, but considering that Super Mario world is something like 12 years (?) old, you should get that one that cheap. :)
- Modem

Stalkid64
October 27th, 2004, 11:34
Wow, Stalkid says that IGN is bad. Maybe I should stop reading it or something.
Uh... I'm really not alone on that one. Quite like a few things of late. :happy:

2fast4u
October 27th, 2004, 12:50
No idea what vexx is, but considering that Super Mario world is something like 12 years (?) old, you should get that one that cheap. :)
- Modem

actually the top selling snes games still go for remarkably high prices.

DuDe
October 27th, 2004, 14:05
Uh... I'm really not alone on that one. Quite like a few things of late. :happy:
I don't care if you're alone or not. I'm just sick of your annoying elitist attitude. I happen to like IGN because they share my taste in games, and I really don't need random Internet know-it-alls like yourself to put down my intelligence because IGN shits on the games that you like.

Allnatural
October 27th, 2004, 17:06
I don't care if you're alone or not. I'm just sick of your annoying elitist attitude. I happen to like IGN because they share my taste in games, and I really don't need random Internet know-it-alls like yourself to put down my intelligence because IGN shits on the games that you like.
I'm not one to jump on the "IGN sux" bandwagon either. Seriously, what makes them so much worse than other review sites? What egregious act did they commit that makes some people loath to even mention their name?

Hexidecimal
October 27th, 2004, 22:00
Vexx is kind of like Mario sunshine if you gave mario awesomely large claws and combo moves instead of a water gun, it's not bad, worth the 19 bucks.

Stalkid64
October 27th, 2004, 23:39
I don't care if you're alone or not. I'm just sick of your annoying elitist attitude. I happen to like IGN because they share my taste in games, and I really don't need random Internet know-it-alls like yourself to put down my intelligence because IGN shits on the games that you like.
Again... it's not just me, and why shouldn't I say something defending another joke that has been chosen to get out of context, I never once mentioned and fail to see what this had to do with your intelligence, and exactly what games are you referring to by games that I like?

IGN reviews are often inaccurate. That's the issue not just myself, but many people have with them. (To quote a penny-arcade cartoon) "*IGN score based on incomplete and largely imaginary code."
The fact IGN discussed, for a random example, a new Hoth scene in Empire Strikes Back in their boxset review that it turned out doesn't even exist at all, means I stand by this idea. They often criticise a game, regardless of playability, simply because it doesn't sit at an unnecessary 60fps, which is absurd. IIRC Rogue Leader (Oh crap... another SW related example...) was turned on for that reason, or for a one-in-a-million bug on the training level when many games get away with far worse. I don't like that style, and why that has pasted me as elitist I'm not sure.

I don't have a problem with people who like IGN. Each to their own. I personally dislike IGN for these kind of reasons, and so do others. That was all I said.


I happen to like IGN because they share my taste in games
Of course, people always like it when they're agreed with all the time. :whistling

Modem
October 28th, 2004, 02:58
Kinda a weird coincidence, but I just (today) was doing some cleaning, and I found mint-condition booklets that came with my snes. The SNES booklets, Mario World, Mario Allstars. We're talking about unopened, sitting in a droor for about 11-12 years, and a couple things I collected over the years. Most I got rid of, but I managed to keep this stuff. I still have my snes, but the only games I have for it are FF3(6) and Chrono Trigger. And the Super Metroid book? It looks crappy because I got it used a looooong time ago, and found that not too long ago either.
- Modem

Hexidecimal
October 28th, 2004, 03:03
Whoa, cool find on the SOM Poster

DuDe
October 28th, 2004, 22:44
I never once mentioned and fail to see what this had to do with your intelligence, and exactly what games are you referring to by games that I like?
...
I don't have a problem with people who like IGN. Each to their own. I personally dislike IGN for these kind of reasons, and so do others. That was all I said.

Oh really? What's that then :


There should be a safety notice. "WARNING: This product contains a quote from IGN. May not be suitable for discerning gamers, or people with an IQ over 6.


As for games that you like that IGN shits on, just re-read your own post :


IGN reviews are often inaccurate. That's the issue not just myself, but many people have with them. (To quote a penny-arcade cartoon) "*IGN score based on incomplete and largely imaginary code."
The fact IGN discussed, for a random example, a new Hoth scene in Empire Strikes Back in their boxset review that it turned out doesn't even exist at all, means I stand by this idea. They often criticise a game, regardless of playability, simply because it doesn't sit at an unnecessary 60fps, which is absurd. IIRC Rogue Leader (Oh crap... another SW related example...) was turned on for that reason, or for a one-in-a-million bug on the training level when many games get away with far worse.




Of course, people always like it when they're agreed with all the time. :whistling
What in the freaking hell are you talking about? It's a god damn gaming site, not a debate, there's no agreement or disagreement here. I read IGN because I look for recommendations that I might get, why the fuck should I be looking for recommendations from people that don't share my taste in games?

Stalkid64
October 29th, 2004, 00:55
That first part is called a `joke`. It contains this new ingredient called "Sarcasm" and is a form of commentary on something many people do agree on. I may well have to start including special warnings in future, and rest assured I'll look into doing so to prevent people taking offense at things that aren't offensive. :yawn:

Also while I could point out that I reviewed Rogue Leader for here, and scored it only slightly above average but didn't like it overall... well that just seems redundant. That kind of blows that theory re: games I like away, which is why I pre-picked that example. I pointed out *why* I dislike their review style, which you haven't argued about at all. That I find interesting as usual.

While I'm on that, well, I took recommendations regarding Pro Evolution despite my extreme dislike of football or football games generally from other people who didn't share my views, and found something cool that I never would've otherwise. I listen to all opinions, but I don't necessarily agree with them. If I like something I like it. If I don't like it, I don't like it. I have no real interest in what any site has to say on my personal playing choices.

Allnatural
October 29th, 2004, 01:26
That first part is called a `joke`. It contains this new ingredient called "Sarcasm" and is a form of commentary on something many people do agree on.
I don't, so the sarcasm was lost on me. Not that I took offense mind you, as I'm well aware of the attitude many have towards IGN. You've failed to convince me that their style or content is inferior to any other site, so you come off as a reverse-fanboy (best term I could come up with) that feels it's "cool" to dis "insert name of site everyone currently seems to hate" at every opportunity. Please continue to express your opinions as you see fit; I'll write them off as necessary. :)

Stalkid64
October 29th, 2004, 02:32
Well at least you `got` the actual intention behind it, which was the main thing.
I do find it a little downheartening that you don't consider the (c'mon, admittedly large sometimes you must surely notice..?) inaccuracies and such as marking it as inferior content. My thoughts are that these things do mark it down somewhat.
After all, spending X amount on a game isn't something done lightly except by the super-rich, so I find it important that any reporting or reviewing should be kept as accurate as possible; to paint the most honest picture of the game in question, you really do need to get the details right. I hope you'll at least see that as a valid statement on the topic and understand why I think that should be the case.

I've also stated that I consider this my own opinion, as I have no interest in following popular trends in site bashing etc.That particular opinion isn't one I'm alone on, and the joke was directed at the people who share it. I hate it when people take offense at something simply because they don't agree on it, rather than trying to see the other person's point of view. I also believe people's opinions should be respected no matter who is sharing them, and should be treated as such. As I said, you don't have to automatically agree with someone to respect their point of view.

Allnatural
October 29th, 2004, 03:04
Well at least you `got` the actual intention behind it, which was the main thing.
I do find it a little downheartening that you don't consider the (c'mon, admittedly large sometimes you must surely notice..?) inaccuracies and such as marking it as inferior content.
I've had my disagreements with IGN's reviews in the past, but chronic, gross inaccuracies? I can't recall such things. Maybe you're right, but in the end it doesn't matter to me. It's just one site, and I never claimed to accept it (or any such site) as gospel.

DuDe
October 29th, 2004, 09:35
That first part is called a `joke`. It contains this new ingredient called "Sarcasm" and is a form of commentary on something many people do agree on. I may well have to start including special warnings in future, and rest assured I'll look into doing so to prevent people taking offense at things that aren't offensive. :yawn:

Sarcasm my ass, you were every bit as serious as I am. I've been reading your "holier than thou" attitude flavoured threads from three years now, and when you piss people off you always get defensive and dim it all as "jokes" and "sarcasm". I'm tired of that crap.

Jaz
October 29th, 2004, 11:19
I fucking hate IGN.

The only source I ever use on how good a game is, is myself after I've played it.

Stalkid64
October 29th, 2004, 11:44
Whoa, careful there. Someone might take that the wrong way and be offended. Er... or the right way in that case. Still lets see just how much flak you get over a remark like that, huh? ;)

Quite how that remark could be taken as anything but a joke I wasn't sure at first... Now rereading it I guess the full on ;) and generally jokey` wording didn't do a good enough job of indicating tongue-in-cheek humour. Perhaps you thought I was being serious by suggesting the game have a written warning like that and that it really should carry one..? :happy:
Honestly how you read things is down to yourself. If you go looking to be offended, you're sure to find something. (That doesn't just apply to you.)

If I cared enough to want to seriously stand up to be `defensive` and say something about IGN, I'd do it. The remark was posted in good humour as I always try to do, and as I always end up having to repeat. Allnatural admitted to seeing that was the intention, and if your own dislike of me has you interpreting a joke as something it sounds like you've taken very personally, that still doesn't make me feel the need to defend myself.

I've stated repeatedly now that it was a joke and nothing more, explained the reasons why I said it, explained that I respect the other point of view even though I don't go along with it, explained why I have that personal view of IGN that I *am* entitled to express on a discussion board, repeatedly explained not to take everything I say seriously... what more can I do?

I wouldn't bother posting out of this `holier than thou` attitude you keep seeing somewhere. I post here for debate and fun, same as I have done since the very early days when such joking was more common. Like you said, you've been reading posts here for at least the past three years or so of that from me. If you haven't seen all that by now, you really have been reading too much beyond the surface. I'm incapable of being anything but completely honest.

Jaz
October 29th, 2004, 11:51
Personly I wish the old ET community spirit were restored where debate and fun were the buzz words.

DuDe
October 29th, 2004, 15:01
Oh, I feel you're seriously wounded, should I call the WAH-mbulance?

Allnatural
October 29th, 2004, 15:37
The remark was posted in good humour as I always try to do...Allnatural admitted to seeing that was the intention
I understood your remark, insomuch as I know the attitude *some* have towards IGN, an attitude I don't share. In the end, it was more like "oh great, here's another witty IGN-hater, la-dee-da." :rolleyes:

I thought I properly conveyed that. :)

Stalkid64
October 29th, 2004, 19:31
You did. At least while you were at it, you also managed to avoid taking it as if it were intended as a serious attack on yourself or something like that. ;)


Personly I wish the old ET community spirit were restored where debate and fun were the buzz words.
But emutalk isn't a democracy any more... so I've been told. :bye3:
I think that spirit was brutally murdered a year or two ago... Still, time to work on that. ;)

Ahem. Subtle what now? :saint:

PsyMan
October 29th, 2004, 19:52
If by saying "democracy" you mean that everyone can start insulting people, flaming, triple-posting, spamming, asking for/linking to illegal matterial without being at least warned then no, ET is not a democracy. I hope that you get what I mean.

Stalkid64
October 30th, 2004, 12:36
Against all of the above for one thing, and why that'd be the result I'm not sure.

vampireuk
October 30th, 2004, 12:57
ET has never been a democracy so don't even try to claim it has been.

blizz
October 30th, 2004, 14:10
It's a democracy in the same way Belarus is a democracy!

DuDe
October 30th, 2004, 14:32
Except we don't even run fake referrendums ;)