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[Rage2Wrath]

I have a P4 3.0 ghz Hyper Threading 800 Mhz FSB
Radeon 9700 pro oc'ed 391.50/337.0
1Gb pc3300 Ram

And when I run Shenmue 2 in chankast, I am getting like around 17 fps. Is that normal for my setup? The only reason I ask is I forced on 8 sample AA and 16x AF, and saw a big video quality differnce but no performance differnce. It still ran at 17fps, shouldn't it have slowed down with those settings? Please let me know if you guys are getting the same problems.

[Pimp]

I have a P4 3.0 ghz Hyper Threading 800 Mhz FSB
Radeon 9700 pro oc'ed 391.50/337.0
1Gb pc3300 Ram

And when I run Shenmue 2 in chankast, I am getting like around 17 fps. Is that normal for my setup? The only reason I ask is I forced on 8 sample AA and 16x AF, and saw a big video quality differnce but no performance differnce. It still ran at 17fps, shouldn't it have slowed down with those settings? Please let me know if you guys are getting the same problems.

those are some weird facts about chankast, its really hard to understand how the emu uses the pc resources.
highend machines perform same as mid ones, you dont gain speed by lowering or increasing graphic quality.

lowend amd cpu's perform better than p4 3.0ghz , i guess chanka was optimised for ATI+AMD pcs. :term:

[Strange]

For AMD - i think yes(ot maybe AMDs FPU is really that powerfull), but not for ATI really... For Chanka there is no any difference between various vid.cards...

[gcnfan]

Like most processors, both Intel and AMD vary. One is good at gaming, while the other is good at performing business-related programs. But I'd rather stick with AMD cause they have the best CPU processors around, and I wouldn't give up my Athlon XP for an Pentium 4, but I really don't hate Intel, I used to own a Pentium III 450 MHZ before. And it's true that AMD Athlon processors peform better/faster than most Intel Pentium processors.

PS: By the way, is AMD's new Athlon 64 processor any good, like the Athlon 64 FX processor, or is it not really any different?

[cooliscool]

Like most processors, both Intel and AMD vary. One is good at gaming, while the other is good at performing business-related programs. But I'd rather stick with AMD cause they have the best CPU processors around, and I wouldn't give up my Athlon XP for an Pentium 4, but I really don't hate Intel, I used to own a Pentium III 450 MHZ before. And it's true that AMD Athlon processors peform better/faster than most Intel Pentium processors.

PS: By the way, is AMD's new Athlon 64 processor any good, like the Athlon 64 FX processor, or is it not really any different?

You're telling me a 3.06GHz P4 isn't good for gaming? Sheeit.

All I see around here... "AMD ROCKS INTEL SUCKS THEY DONT RUN GAMES OMG" Jesus christ.. howabout you people read up on stuff a bit, eh? Better yet, try a higher end Intel based PC YOURSELF. Also, as been stated on many sites, a P3 Tualatin gives the Athlon XP a good run for its money (which is true.. in just about any bench I can either top or com very close to an Athlon XP 2000+ T-Bred's performance). About P4's underperforming in Chankast.. check out DuDe's results. 25-30FPS in SC with a 2800+.

:yawn:

[Strange]

A64 is really good CPUs... Its more faster and cheaper than P4.
And yes - P3 processors was very good ones... But i`m really not interested in P4 too... P4 faster in business-related programs only because they have strong optimisations for it...
About P4's underperforming in Chankast.. check out DuDe's results. 25-30FPS in SC with a 2800+.
lol - what an argument http://forums.gamemag.ru/images/smiles/happy07.gif I think what DuDe man is only one who have that low fps on such powefull CPU - its just a bug, soon i show you Duron pics... ;) And remember - not all people can o/c Tualatin to 1800Mhz - so P3 is more than not a rival even for Durons, and especially not for Athlons.

[Rage2Wrath]

So are those the results i should be getting for Shenmue 2 with my setup?

[Strange]

Hard to say - not many people have p4 3Ghz here, but i think what its normal - one man with P4 3Ghz getting not really good fps even in SoulCalibur...

[cooliscool]

A64 is really good CPUs... Its more faster and cheaper than P4.
And yes - P3 processors was very good ones... But i`m really not interested in P4 too... P4 faster in business-related programs only because they have strong optimisations for it...

lol - what an argument http://forums.gamemag.ru/images/smiles/happy07.gif I think what DuDe man is only one who have that low fps on such powefull CPU - its just a bug, soon i show you Duron pics... ;) And remember - not all people can o/c Tualatin to 1800Mhz - so P3 is more than not a rival even for Durons, and especially not for Athlons.

At stock speeds no, at 1800MHz, even with PC-133 this CPU can compete with any Athlon around it's clock speed range.. it MURDERS a 1700+ in any bench I've ran and basically matches a 2000+. In Chankast, people with 1800+ CPUs can't even get the FPS I'm getting (Posty_2k3 in particular, we've compared on MSN several times).

[Strange]

Chankast, people with 1800+ CPUs can't even get the FPS I'm getting (Posty_2k3 in particular, we've compared on MSN several times).
Bad PC configuration(Motherboard or something else) i guess - i told you what on Duron1200/MX440 i get 30-35fps in SC with 115 SH4. Or maybe old(polomino) 1800+ core is the problem... As you can see various fps results is really strange with Chanka emulator...
it MURDERS a 1700+
Ok - maybe if you O/c it to 1800mhz but what if o/c 1700+? ;) My CPU is a good example :P And its totally destroys not only P3 but almost all P4 too :gunman: :naughty:

[cooliscool]

Bad PC configuration(Motherboard or something else) i guess - i told you what on Duron1200/MX440 i get 30-35fps in SC with 115 SH4. Or maybe old(polomino) 1800+ core is the problem... As you can see various fps results is really strange with Chanka emulator...

Ok - maybe if you O/c it to 1800mhz but what if o/c 1700+? ;) My CPU is a good example :P And its totally destroys not only P3 but almost all P4 too :gunman: :naughty:

Well let's see.. I'm gonna defrag, and run SC on a clean boot and see how it runs.. My PC is feeling a bit cluttery too.. but even IF the Duron gets around my FPS, it doesn't really say it's better.. it means Chanka's weird (take DuDe and Posty for examples. ;))

Also, are you running from the CD or an ISO? I'm running from a CD.

[cooliscool]

Hmm under further examination, I found that in the battle theater the FPS NEVER goes above 40, even in the least complex areas.. it seems to be capped. Very odd. It also never goes below 38.. Here's four shots of four different battle theaters.

edit: I also noticed with the CPU OCed to 115, in battle it won't go above 30 or below 29, even in the least/most intensive situations. Very odd indeed..

[Strange]

Thats the point - you running from CD, try ISO - its really faster than CD. I`m lunching DC games only from ISO...

[cooliscool]

Alright, going to ISO my SC disc now.. will post back. :) Thanks for that bit of info Strange. :)

[cooliscool]

Well the FPS counter shows about 5-7FPS more but it actually runs SO much faster than before.. more than a shot can do justice.. I swear it feels full speed.

[Strange]

Good for you... CD reading is really slowing gameplay... I tryed play from CD - FPS decrease is about 20-25 for me... So cd image is the best variant.

[SD_DRACULA]

yeah its true when it comes to gaming in general, pentiums are not quite up to it. i tried shenmue 2 on my 1.5 Pentium M and i got like 25 fps unlike in my desktop with a 2800+ athlon in which i got over 40 fps, laptop processors will always be slower but still AMD is the way to go for games and emus.

[cooliscool]

yeah its true when it comes to gaming in general, pentiums are not quite up to it. i tried shenmue 2 on my 1.5 Pentium M and i got like 25 fps unlike in my desktop with a 2800+ athlon in which i got over 40 fps, laptop processors will always be slower but still AMD is the way to go for games and emus.

... :yawn:

[achiles]

what hell I run sc at full speed on my 2.8 oc to 3.2 with pc4000 memory,and shenmue 2 full speed as well. my 2400xp oc to 2700 gets 3/4 of the performance of my oced p4, you just gotta play with the fsb on a p4 to get it going remember p4 dont get quite as hot as athlons so you have a lot more headroom to oc.

p.s. Shenmue 2 looks wrong compared to playing it on a real dc.?(no fog effects) so the game isnt even optimized yet.

[achiles]

yeah its true when it comes to gaming in general, pentiums are not quite up to it. i tried shenmue 2 on my 1.5 Pentium M and i got like 25 fps unlike in my desktop with a 2800+ athlon in which i got over 40 fps, laptop processors will always be slower but still AMD is the way to go for games and emus.

And who on their right mind will compare a 2800 with a 1.5 pentium m (aka p3) compare your 2800 with my 2.8 p4 big difference.

[astroduck]

Athlon XP 2800+ is actually 2.083 Ghz and you can't really compare that to a P4 1.5Ghz since there will be a big differences(different FSB and stuff). You should compare to 2400+ to 2800+ or P4 2.8 to P4 3.0 or something like that.

Also achiles, 1.5 pentium is actually not P3, it is P4 unless I am missing something...

[FOXHOUND]

yeah its true when it comes to gaming in general, pentiums are not quite up to it. i tried shenmue 2 on my 1.5 Pentium M and i got like 25 fps unlike in my desktop with a 2800+ athlon in which i got over 40 fps, laptop processors will always be slower but still AMD is the way to go for games and emus.


i find it hard to believe that you've got 40 Fps in Shenmue 2 with Chankast with a 2,8 Athlon ( of course..it can reach 40 Fps sometimes , but it doesn't mean it runs at 40 constantly ) .
i run Shenmue 2 on a 2,6 Athlon and the Fps stays between 13 - 35 Fps ( CPU to 82 helps a bit )...so it generally runs below 30 Fps , .......my system is clean so this is the best performance a 2,6 Athlon can do ( at least in this version of Chankast )
...so please post the results in the most accurate way possible , you're not helping anyone by doing otherwise.. :canadian:

[cooliscool]

Athlon XP 2800+ is actually 2.083 Ghz and you can't really compare that to a P4 1.5Ghz since there will be a big differences(different FSB and stuff). You should compare to 2400+ to 2800+ or P4 2.8 to P4 3.0 or something like that.

Also achiles, 1.5 pentium is actually not P3, it is P4 unless I am missing something...

No, it's based off of the P3 Tualatin's 1.2V AGTL+ bus, with a 400MHz FSB and 1MB L2 thrown on. Basically it's a really fast PIII Tualatin, but does Intel want you to know that? Nope.

The Pentium M is probably the fastest CPU in terms of architecture that Intel has ever made.

[Strange]

Hmm, he just can`t get stable 40fps on 2800+ - maybe only sometimes... Because i have only 30-35(sometimes 40) and then in town too many people only 20-30...

[SD_DRACULA]

Hmm, he just can`t get stable 40fps on 2800+ - maybe only sometimes... Because i have only 30-35(sometimes 40) and then in town too many people only 20-30...
true, i didnt say i get 40fps all the time, but it reaches 40 fps a lot of the time, but when theres lotsa people drops a few fps down.
and the athlons are named after their pentium equivalent, athlon 2800+ and a p4 2800,doesnt matter that the athlon 2800+ runs at 2087mhz, but dont forget that the pentiums use quantispeed (or quad watever) tech, and so the memory runs at like 100mhz or 200mhz x 4
anyway athlons64 rule and i ll get one of them soon i wish i could aford an athlon 64 fx 53 tho. :P

[achiles]

true, i didnt say i get 40fps all the time, but it reaches 40 fps a lot of the time, but when theres lotsa people drops a few fps down.
and the athlons are named after their pentium equivalent, athlon 2800+ and a p4 2800,doesnt matter that the athlon 2800+ runs at 2087mhz, but dont forget that the pentiums use quantispeed (or quad watever) tech, and so the memory runs at like 100mhz or 200mhz x 4
anyway athlons64 rule and i ll get one of them soon i wish i could aford an athlon 64 fx 53 tho. :P


If I look at the sky I get 60fps lol. now that is speed. :party:

[Rage2Wrath]

So does anybody know why its running so slow on my pc?

[BIGFOOT_PI]

No, it's based off of the P3 Tualatin's 1.2V AGTL+ bus, with a 400MHz FSB and 1MB L2 thrown on. Basically it's a really fast PIII Tualatin, but does Intel want you to know that? Nope.

The Pentium M is probably the fastest CPU in terms of architecture that Intel has ever made.

now if they would just make 2.5hghz or faster @800bus versions of the chips (albeit higher heat and wattage) for desktop PCs than they could drop their p4 Pressed$hit CPU :)

[BIGFOOT_PI]

I have a P4 3.0 ghz Hyper Threading 800 Mhz FSB
Radeon 9700 pro oc'ed 391.50/337.0
1Gb pc3300 Ram

And when I run Shenmue 2 in chankast, I am getting like around 17 fps. Is that normal for my setup? The only reason I ask is I forced on 8 sample AA and 16x AF, and saw a big video quality differnce but no performance differnce. It still ran at 17fps, shouldn't it have slowed down with those settings? Please let me know if you guys are getting the same problems.

Its possible it doesnt like yer setup in hyperthreading mode- I have heard some games run WORSE with hyperthreading enabled... but I couldnt say for sure if chancast is one of those... I dont think the video card or the ram is an issue- looks like either a motherboard and cpu performance problem, or you have some background apps eating up your cpu cycles in windows.
ps- I dont know why these guys are hijacking your thread with soul calibur stuff... lets get back on topic here guys- heres a refresher- SLOW SHENMUE2 ... DISCUSS! :)