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[lukasfr]

I'm wondering how fast runs Soul Calibur with Chankast emu on Your hardware, 'cause in compatibility list it says that it runs full speed and on my P4 2.6GHz with Sapphire Radeon 9200 128MB it runs about 30-35 in the game. So I think it should be a little faster to run full speed.
please give me Your answers, only a few it'll be good too ;o)

[Pimp]

I'm wondering how fast runs Soul Calibur with Chankast emu on Your hardware, 'cause in compatibility list it says that it runs full speed and on my P4 2.6GHz with Sapphire Radeon 9200 128MB it runs about 30-35 in the game. So I think it should be a little faster to run full speed.
please give me Your answers, only a few it'll be good too ;o)



55 fps

p4 3100mhz
800 fsb HT
512ddr 3200
ATI 9800 Pro
128ddr

too fast to handle

i recon that anything above 40fps should be considered full speed.

[S0LAR]

that would depend... 40/30 is overspeed, 40/60 is low speed... :P

[Flak247]

i get 40/45 all the time. :icecream:

[FOXHOUND]

the only way to get over 50 in Soul Calibur is to play with the SH4 CPU ...over or underclock it.
I have it overclocked to 114 in Soul calibur and the game stays at 53-60 FPS :)


2,6 Barton 521 FX5900 XT

see ya

[Strange]

60-65fps with SH4 at 115...
Specs in profile...

[DeadRabbit]

60-65fps with SH4 at 115...
Specs in profile...

Average 25 fps for me.

The odd thing is that even though I have read FAQ's and it states results of overclocking/underclocking SH4 will vary dependant on system. There is absolutely NO change whatsoever in frame rate no matter how overclocked/underclocked I make it.

Anybody have any ideas why ?

BTW, using image created and mounted with Alcohol120%.

Still, that's a full 25 fps faster than I was playing it a couple of months ago so no big deal ;)

[cooliscool]

Average about 34fps ingame, menus around 66.. gets as low as 27 sometimes. Still very very playable. I always keep the SH-4 at 100%.. should try OCing/UCing it sometime.

[posty_2k3]

I get about 32/60 FPS ingame (with SH4 cpu at 115%) I have to OC the cpu, because if i UC it, it goes to 29/30 FPS but it seems like its going half speed. Its still playable, and im happy ^_^

[Heinster]

only 40/60 :S

[elbe]

I've got 35-40 fps wht SH4@114.
Full speed mean 60/60fps and 40 or even 50 isn't full speed (still playable but a bit slow) Look @ clock in game... if 1s in reality is exacly the same like 1s in game, game runs in full speed.

[Phreaky]

My seems to run unusually fast compared to some of yours, but only on some levels. On Chaos and the Water raft one I max out the frame-rate and its too fast to be able to play properly, but on some levels its as slow as 40-45fps :/

My specs arent even that good either (XP 3200+, 512mb PC3200, Audigy and a Ti4600). I dont use any software SH4 overclocking? ;x

It could be because I have a less "spread" image of the game that was released by a different group, "dCiSO", nearly a year after the game came out. Although I doubt it.

I can post a screenie if needed.

~P

EDIT: Attached an example at 70fps, no overclock, with Alphatest + normal ZWrite enabled. Apologies for the size, didnt want to lose the quality, took my long enough to manouver Inferno around so you could actually read the counter at the bottom :P

[Heinster]

well with tests like aquamark 44.000 and 3dmark 5500 the system of mine seems to do just what it's supposed too... But I think the recent Chankast version like AMD better too... But the difference between mine and that P3 running at 1800 is absurdly low (good for him though ;))

[cooliscool]

Here's a shot of mine.. although, since I downgraded to the 45.23 dets, Chankast overall runs about ~3-6fps slower. Ack.

[jareg]

mhm about 50-60 Fps
UnderClock it to 50 :P

[jareg]

Mhm my Fps 50-60
When i underclock it to 50 :P
Anyway runs really good an my Pc

[cooliscool]

Here's a shot at 115 SH-4 clock and 56.72 dets. I got around 26fps in this level with the 45.23/115 SH-4 clock. Sweet. :P

Heinster.. it's common knowledge that the P3 really shines when it comes to SSE performance, and (a Tualatin P3) murders a P4 clock per clock. :P Why do you think Centrino rocks so much? It's essentially a Tualatin (it's based on the P6 architecture, agtl+ bus) with a 400MHz FSB and 1MB L2 Cache. Those long pipelines really hurt the P4..

[Strange]

Heh - that is mine screens =)
64fps normally on complex stage and 67fps in space stage :whistling And like Phreaky have sometimes about 70 without o/c...
2 cooliscool
Heh, BTW wanna hear funny thing? - i tryed SoulCalibur on the Duron1200Mhz - it showing the same fps(30-35) as your PIII1800Mhz - really interesting...

[lukasfr]

Heh - that is mine screens =)
64fps normally on complex stage and 67fps in space stage :whistling And like Phreaky have sometimes about 70 without o/c...
2 cooliscool
Heh, BTW wanna hear funny thing? - i tryed SoulCalibur on the Duron1200Mhz - it showing the same fps(30-35) as your PIII1800Mhz - really interesting...
damn, maybe it's because of Your cyrylic version :)
well, i can read russian, so it's not a problem, but how to make it to russian ?
I'll do everything to make this game perfectly runs.

[Strange]

Nope - its not because of Rus version - its because of my 3400+ Athlon ;)
And you can`t convert it to russian - its ours pirates makes those horrible russian versions - i really hate it...

[Phreaky]

Nope - its not because of Rus version - its because of my 3400+ Athlon ;)

I think that must be why ours run faster, I love those Athlon XP's :)

[fivefeet8]

http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showpost.php?p=742946&postcount=21

That's how it runs on my system with those settings. ;)

[insane_cobra]

i get around 25-30fps, but i guess that's fine considering i have a celeron cpu (2.4GHz, 512Mb ddr 3200, geforce mx440). it's a bit better when i set priority of chankast process to high, though.

[Flak247]

http://pdmcreative.com/uploads/snap000.jpg

[cooliscool]

Heh - that is mine screens =)
64fps normally on complex stage and 67fps in space stage :whistling And like Phreaky have sometimes about 70 without o/c...
2 cooliscool
Heh, BTW wanna hear funny thing? - i tryed SoulCalibur on the Duron1200Mhz - it showing the same fps(30-35) as your PIII1800Mhz - really interesting...

If you're saying a Duron 1200 comes close to or beats my 1800MHz P3,

ROFL. :P Never laughed so hard in my life. :happy: Hell, at 1.33GHz my CPU murdered a Duron 1200 in all benches I ran (sandra, n-bench, 3dm 2k1, winmark99 among others). Post some benches and a shot of Soul Calibur on those levels I posted shots of on that machine and we'll see.

[suronosuke]

weee mines runs at 5 fps

[DuDe]

I get 25 to 30 fps with a 2800+, go figure...

[Strange]

2 cooliscool
Sure, i will make some screens later... But as you can see in Chanka all AMD CPUs beats Intel ones...

[Nightmare]

hey you guys... how can we know what is the best config ??? you put screen with chankast or chankast utilities (with his speed hack), etc... there is no rules... it's impossible to judge it...

you should post your screenshots with this rules :
- chankast 0.2a
- operating systems with 32 bits colors (and not 16 bits)
- no sh4 changes
- no fullscreen

[cooliscool]

2 cooliscool
Sure, i will make some screens later... But as you can see in Chanka all AMD CPUs beats Intel ones...

DuDe has a 2800+ and he gets 25-30?

What were you saying? ALL AMD CPUS DO NOT BEAT ALL INTEL. OBVIOUSLY IT'S SOMETHING OTHER THAN CPU HINDERING PERFORMANCE. How is dude going to get worse FPS than me? Obviously it's not his CPU.

[Strange]

I make my screens with Chanka2.0 with utilities but without any speed hacks... 32bit and no fullscreen, with and without SH4 o\c...

[Nightmare]

I make my screens with Chanka2.0 with utilities but without any speed hacks... 32bit and no fullscreen, with and without SH4 o\c...

all of you have to do the same... whatever it is... and with a fight between ivy and xanguia if possible... for our eyes... ;)

[Strange]

2 cooliscool
Hmm - many strange things with that Chanka... I can`t understand why on 2800+ he is getting those crappy 30fps :-/ Same as on Duron... Maybe problem in his motherboard or drivers or etc...
2 Nightmare
Eh? Sure... Those screens taken with all settings what you said before + as always 8xFSAA... All it for your eyes :P Hmm even without SH4 o\c 65-70fps - i really like it :devil:

[Flak247]

man Strange what are your sys specs

[cooliscool]

Now where are the pics of it running on the Duron? Also to further prove that statement I'd like to see a wcpuid or cpu-z shot.

[Strange]

My specs in profile.... But if you cant see it then:
EpOX8RDA+/AthlonXP1700@2.4Ghz/512Mb DDR400/GeForceFX5600
2 Cooliscool
To get screens from Duron i must go to my friends house... Maybe todai i will go to him...

[Flak247]

you can see mine and my clock speed is 2.07 bus 372 or some shit i cant remember right now lol and god how did you get your 1700 so kick ass

[Strange]

Dont worry - i see your specs from your signature ;)
How did i get my Athlon at 2.4Ghz? - there is no any secret - just good sample and motherboard...

[Flak247]

man i wish i didnt brun my 1700 out god thats fucked. lol over clock a 1700 ownz ass.

[Strange]

man i wish i didnt brun my 1700 out god thats fucked.
More than probably... Not many 1700+ can work on that clock - many of them can work only at 2.0-2.2Ghz... Ah yes, only thorobreads core ones can handle such a clocks - polomino 1700+ is really crappy for o/c...

[Nightmare]

Those screens taken with all settings what you said before + as always 8xFSAA... All it for your eyes

nice strange, very nice... now, is there anybody here with a P4 3+ghz to show us a similar result ?

[Strange]

I don`t think so...
All people with P4 3Ghz what i seen here has only about 45fps...

[Flak247]

i wish someone would do it wit a 64 bit chip

[Strange]

I saw someone with A64(maybe not here) - results similar to mine or little better...

[suronosuke]

strange show us couple of screens with you attacking the other female please.

[kostooch]

I saw someone with A64(maybe not here) - results similar to mine or little better...
Because this is not 64-bit aplication...

[Phreaky]

I can vouch for Strange 100%, my Athlon XP system does exactly the same as his fps wise. Mines a 2500+ @ 2.23Ghz, compared to his 1700+ @ 2.3GHz (I think), the difference is negliable and my hardware setup apart from the CPU & mobo is near identical ;)

If you go into some heavy fighting it can drop by 10 fps to about ~60, sometimes a little lower @ 55. There are a few levels that cause it to go at about 45fps in heavy fighting, although I cant remember the name off hand. (Possibly the Astaroth/Lizardman levels)

Best levels to speed test are Chaos, Proving Grounds and the Water Raft one you fight Yoshimitsu in. Playing in Practice, Versus or Arcade dont appear to make any difference, not that I can tell anyway.

~P

[Flak247]

kostooch it would not matter if it is not a 64 bit app it would run faster because of the chips capabilitys

[Skullmonkey]

I average around 55 to 64 fps. The system I use is posted in my sig.... I would post some images, but the manage attachment button never works for me, (I press the button and nothing happens at all) so I guess I won't be putting any up.....

Allways run in window with 32bit colour, 4 x FSAA with Temporal AA enabled, and 16 x AF

[Strange]

strange show us couple of screens with you attacking the other female please.
Ok... I just like Xianghua ^_^

[cooliscool]

Playing at 8xFSAA/8xANISO is freakishly enjoyable.. :happy:

[Heinster]

...? So playing with the ATI/geforce settings makes extra fps?

[cooliscool]

Nah.. but it looks awesome. :p Must you always be so sarcastic?

I've got a 3.06GHz P4 Northwood sitting in my closet waiting to be used (need to buy a mobo.. prolly next week or week after). Once I get a mobo I can test Chanka on it. :D I swear, if it runs like it does on my P3, something's up.

Ahh.. she's a bute, and all I can do is touch her.. :( I've got her IHS all nice and lapped.. waiting for a heatsink and some AS5.. :D

[Strange]

Athlon64 3000+ was better variant than that P4...

[Burnpro]

I don`t think so...
All people with P4 3Ghz what i seen here has only about 45fps...

i got a p4 3.0C and i get 35-40 fps average with 139 sh4 overclock,
maybe my geforce2 64mb is holding me back??

[Clements]

Playable framerates between 50-70 fps 10x7, 4xAA + 8xAF, NO overclock/underclock.

[Ridefreak]

I have also tried to run SC again. But i have had many slowdowns ( fps on 30 ):( . So i have activated on my ati card: 6x AA 16xAF and the option performence instead of qualtiy. And now SC runs nearly perfect :). I play with constant 50 - 60 fps, but in other stages can it be that the fps getting down.

Greetz

Ridefreak :D

[Talas]

I have also tried to run SC again. But i have had many slowdowns ( fps on 30 ):( . So i have activated on my ati card: 6x AA 16xAF and the option performence instead of qualtiy. And now SC runs nearly perfect :). I play with constant 50 - 60 fps, but in other stages can it be that the fps getting down.

Greetz

Ridefreak :D

Yea, I also noticed that. Seems that you get an fps drop in stages with water/lava in it. Funny enough, the best stage for my 1.6 Ghz Athlon seems to be the final one (Inferno). In it I get stable 30 fps. Not bad with that little power.
:devil:

[Burnpro]

here is my average fps with a p4 3.0C

[Heinster]

hmmm no effect on my game playing with the ati settings :S

[Windmaster]

Oddly, mine runs with 20-24 fps as if it was full speed, the game speed seems pretty much normal to me.

[emcsquared]

arrgg, i played with my ati settings, still no fps change. I guess its ok, im used to the 11-14 fps now anyway...

[morpheusx]

I'm not sure if my fps for soul calibur is really low or medium,can somone tell me if it's dangeroudly low,just to get some insight is all,so i can tweak it as much as i can,i over clocked the heck out of the cpu,chankast finally crashed at 918 lmao!!

I mean i think i have a decent system,nothing to woo hoo about,just a humble p4 2ghz with 256mb of ram, 64mb GeForce4 mx 440 graphics card w/the lastest drivers installed "56.72" am i missing anything guys? if so,i'd love to hear what yall have to say :0)

80gig C: and a 20gig D: samsung cd-r/dvd combo drive E: pioneer ao5 dvd-r

[fivefeet8]

16/60 fps? That's pretty low. If you've got a P4 2ghz with a 400 mhz FSB, then that might be why. Also, what kind of ram you got? DDR? I'm thinking SDR. That could be another reason as well.

[fivefeet8]

Here are some of my Soul Calibur screenshots. Done at Full Screen 1024x768, 16xS FSAA!!!, 16xAF. Runs pretty much full speed and more. ;) Me needs a FPS limiter.

http://img41.exs.cx/img41/6827/Chankast_alpha_252004-07-1022-00-19-98.th.jpg (http://img41.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img41&image=Chankast_alpha_252004-07-1022-00-19-98.jpg)http://img41.exs.cx/img41/6199/Chankast_alpha_252004-07-1022-00-23-54.th.jpg (http://img41.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img41&image=Chankast_alpha_252004-07-1022-00-23-54.jpg)http://img41.exs.cx/img41/204/Chankast_alpha_252004-07-1022-01-05-96.th.jpg (http://img41.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img41&image=Chankast_alpha_252004-07-1022-01-05-96.jpg)http://img41.exs.cx/img41/2440/Chankast_alpha_252004-07-1022-01-30-25.th.jpg (http://img41.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img41&image=Chankast_alpha_252004-07-1022-01-30-25.jpg)
http://img41.exs.cx/img41/4153/Chankast_alpha_252004-07-1022-02-59-15.th.jpg (http://img41.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img41&image=Chankast_alpha_252004-07-1022-02-59-15.jpg)http://img41.exs.cx/img41/6404/Chankast_alpha_252004-07-1022-03-05-65.th.jpg (http://img41.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img41&image=Chankast_alpha_252004-07-1022-03-05-65.jpg)

[posty_2k3]

Omg... Nice speeds you got there fivefeet8. I get half that speed with 4xAA on >_> Has to be my stupid 1800+ Athlon XP, along with all the apps i had in the background, lol.

[fivefeet8]

Omg... Nice speeds you got there fivefeet8. I get half that speed with 4xAA on >_> Has to be my stupid 1800+ Athlon XP, along with all the apps i had in the background, lol.

Hehe. Thanks. Those were actually with Myie2, Shareeza, Daemon, and fraps running in the background.

[Strange]

fivefeet8
Hmm - amazing fps with such a high FSAA ratio... Heh, looks like your 6800U is really kick ass accelerator ;)

[cooliscool]

I'm not sure if my fps for soul calibur is really low or medium,can somone tell me if it's dangeroudly low,just to get some insight is all,so i can tweak it as much as i can,i over clocked the heck out of the cpu,chankast finally crashed at 918 lmao!!

I mean i think i have a decent system,nothing to woo hoo about,just a humble p4 2ghz with 256mb of ram, 64mb GeForce4 mx 440 graphics card w/the lastest drivers installed "56.72" am i missing anything guys? if so,i'd love to hear what yall have to say :0)

80gig C: and a 20gig D: samsung cd-r/dvd combo drive E: pioneer ao5 dvd-r

16FPS? I get 35-40 ingame and about 66 in the menus. :P

If you have a willy p4 that'd prolly be it. Even if you do you should prolly close out some of that stuff running in your taskbar.

[desertboy]

16FPS? I get 35-40 ingame and about 66 in the menus. :P

If you have a willy p4 that'd prolly be it. Even if you do you should prolly close out some of that stuff running in your taskbar.


I've got a P4 2.4ghz with paired ddr ram (1/2 gig) and I get around 30-40 FPS in game and 60+ on menus.

My GFX card is a substandard fx5200

[desertboy]

I've got a P4 2.4ghz with paired ddr ram (1/2 gig) and I get around 30-40 FPS in game and 60+ on menus.

My GFX card is a substandard fx5200


With Hyperthreading active I can actually encode a dvd 2 divx at the same time with almost no performance degradation (After playing with the affinity in task manager and as long as the dvd is on a different HD to Chankast and iso's.)

My HD's are serial ATA's.

::Sorry for the 2 posts I must have clicked quote rather than edit.

Sorry for the size of the pic

Chankast is running on CPU1 Nandub on CPU2 (Virtual CPU's obviously.)

[emcsquared]

can anyone tell me if this is ok, im getting 14 fps at most on all games. I got windows xp, 1.4ghz celeron, 640mb ram, and got a radeon 9000 with 128mb. Now im well aware that its still early in the stages but even a simple Samba De Amigo game and Ikaruga is stuck and 14 and less. I tried to put my ati settings at all preformance, but nothing happend. I closed as many applications as i can, and even resized that Chanka window like about 1inch by 1inch on the screen, and Soul Caliur is still 14. Can anyone tell me if this is normal with my comp specs?

[Strange]

Man, your CPU is really crap - thats the point, even Duron1200 much faster than your Celeron... But maybe 15fps is still low for it... or maybe not...

[-indecisive-]

wow, that's pretty amazing that you can encode a dvd and run chankast without a performance decrease with ht.
anyway, i get super crappy fps with my 1.2 ghz celeron and gf2 mx. i can see now that this probably won't be ported to the xbox after all, right desertboy haha
i really need to upgrade my computer, and let's hope xbox 2 will have the same emulator potential so it'll be able to run a port of chankast

[Warlock]

I am using a XP2600+ (2.133 GHz), have 512 mb DDR SDRAM, and an S3 ProSavageDDR video card. My fps in the menus is about 26-31. ingame, i dunno, cause the emulator crashes immediately after i press anything but art gallery and options. :yucky:

[Strange]

Just change your videocard and all.
Hmm - just tryed 61.36 Forceware - big fps increase in 1024x768 with FSAA8x(66-70fps the same as with 640x480)! But 8x looking like 4x now... Anyway really great result...
wow, that's pretty amazing that you can encode a dvd and run chankast without a performance decrease with ht.
lol - on the screen he is just in game menu - any machine will show high fps in it... And about HT - its not that good as all think about it - its just makes 2 logical CPU cores and nothing more - performance increase with it about 5-7% only... Any powerfull CPU even without HT can handle such a load.

[mezkal]

Warlock, the S3 doesn't support a fully functioning Transform and Lighting (TnL) engine in hardware. Chankast requires it. You will need to upgrade to at least Geforce 4MX to run it.

Cheers,

Mezkal

[cooliscool]

Man, your CPU is really crap - thats the point, even Duron1200 much faster than your Celeron... But maybe 15fps is still low for it... or maybe not...

Well, he has a Tualatin.. for sure he could hit at least 1.7GHz. :D And indecisive.. yes, Chankast runs like ass on my PC whilst at 1.2GHz, but thank the lord the Tualatin is a very good OCer, at 1.8GHz Chankast runs amazingly well.. you should really consider OCing that 1.2. :) Also, simply due to the fact that the P6 Core executes SSE instructions very fast, it should be running better than that, infact, better than a 1.2 Duron. I haven't really tested SC at 1.2GHz.. maybe I will.

I've got a 700MHz Cumine Celeron in my PC right now, testing it out for a friend.. will run Chankast on it and see how it runs. :P

[cooliscool]

Warlock, the S3 doesn't support a fully functioning Transform and Lighting (TnL) engine in hardware. Chankast requires it. You will need to upgrade to at least Geforce 4MX to run it.

Cheers,

Mezkal

GeForce 4 MX? Er, no, the GeForce256 has a fully functional TnL unit. Infact, TnL was introduced with the GeForce256.

[fivefeet8]

Just change your videocard and all.
Hmm - just tryed 61.36 Forceware - big fps increase in 1024x768 with FSAA8x(66-70fps the same as with 640x480)! But 8x looking like 4x now... Anyway really great result...


You've got an Nv3x video right Strange. In that case, 8xAA doesn't work properly with the newer 61.xx forcewares and Nv3x hardware. The reason why it looks like 4x only is because it's only doing 2xSS. The 4x Multisampling part is broken for Nv3x hardware with the 61.xx drivers. Essentially, your only getting 2xSS and not the 4xMS part in 8xAA(actually 8xS).

The 61.xx drivers and 8xAA works fine on Nv40's though. THe drivers were designed to use the Nv40's new RGMS AA. So on 6800 cards, 8xAA(8xS) actually does 2xSS*4xMS. Nv3x hardware doesn't have a RGMS mode. It only does OGMS AA.

[Strange]

Well, he has a Tualatin.. for sure he could hit at least 1.7GHz. :D And indecisive.. yes, Chankast runs like ass on my PC whilst at 1.2GHz, but thank the lord the Tualatin is a very good OCer, at 1.8GHz Chankast runs amazingly well.. you should really consider OCing that 1.2. :) Also, simply due to the fact that the P6 Core executes SSE instructions very fast, it should be running better than that, infact, better than a 1.2 Duron. I haven't really tested SC at 1.2GHz.. maybe I will.

I've got a 700MHz Cumine Celeron in my PC right now, testing it out for a friend.. will run Chankast on it and see how it runs. :P
Hmm. he didn`t say what he has Tualatin... Maybe P4?
And yeah Tualatin is good CPU... Bot too old for nowadays. For example you can`t propely play in DoA2 on your PIII...
BTW even if PIII is really quick with SSE, Duron have a powerfull Athlons FPUs :p

[Strange]

You've got an Nv3x video right Strange. In that case, 8xAA doesn't work properly with the newer 61.xx forcewares and Nv3x hardware. The reason why it looks like 4x only is because it's only doing 2xSS. The 4x Multisampling part is broken for Nv3x hardware with the 61.xx drivers. Essentially, your only getting 2xSS and not the 4xMS part in 8xAA(actually 8xS).

The 61.xx drivers and 8xAA works fine on Nv40's though. THe drivers were designed to use the Nv40's new RGMS AA. So on 6800 cards, 8xAA(8xS) actually does 2xSS*4xMS. Nv3x hardware doesn't have a RGMS mode. It only does OGMS AA.
Thx for explaining... But i satisfied with 1024x768 with FSAAx4 - and its much faster than the same on 56.72...

[cooliscool]

Hmm. he didn`t say what he has Tualatin... Maybe P4?
And yeah Tualatin is good CPU... Bot too old for nowadays. For example you can`t propely play in DoA2 on your PIII...
BTW even if PIII is really quick with SSE, Duron have a powerfull Athlons FPUs :p

UH.. I play Doa2 fine on my Tualatin.. faster than posty does on an Athlon XP 1800+.. Jesus christ.

"too old for nowadays" psssh. My ass.

[Strange]

And you mean 14fps in DoA2 is fine? - man, don`t joke around ;) 30-35fps - this is fine. And i think what posty have problems with PC configuration or something else...

[cooliscool]

14fps my ass.. I get 20-26 ingame, and in the menus about 56.

No, Posty and I have talked about this on MSN alot.. his PC is configured just fine (he has a 9600 pro too). I'll take on ANY stock clocked XP 1800+ in a Chanka FPS battle.

:\

[Strange]

Hmm - so funny, i seen your screens of DoA2 - only 20fps on training arena, but i`m sure what u have about 17 on story mode on complex fight arenas... Maybe a screen with 26fps will prove it ;)
And i have interesting idea - i will slow down my CPU to 1700+ and check fps in Chanka - will see what faster - your PIII or my Athlon....
p.s. 20-25fps in DoA2 is damn slo-mo :yucky:

[Clements]

The 1800+ is a much better overclocker though, and can reach speeds of over 2.0GHz+ on air, so I'd take it over any PIII any day. Strange's 2.4GHz 1700+ is as fast if not faster than my 3200+ and they cost, what, $42 on Pricewatch? ;)

[cooliscool]

Sure.. I'll take some shots. Take your CPU down to 1700+ and we'll compare. Take a CPU-Z shot too. :)

I've got a 3.06GHz Northwood P4 sitting in my drawer right now, so it's not as if this is the only CPU I have forcing me to defend it, I'm just stating what I've experienced.

edit: Clements, maybe a good stepping T-Bred, but not the more common Palomino cores. Also Strange, howcome I haven't seen the shots of Chankast running on a 1.2 Duron? I find it VERY hard to believe that if not underclocked the SH-4 that it runs better than on my 1.8 P3.

[Strange]

cooliscool
I will make those screens on Duron1200 - be sure... Also i`m tryed Chanka on P4 2.8Ghz - horrible results... 40fps in SoulCalibur and total slo-mo 20-25fps in DoA2... Friend O/C it to 3.4Ghz - better, but anyway not great fps in Chanka... BTW Polomino ones production was stopped more than year ago and almost all T-breds o/c to 2-2.2Ghz
*going to slow down CPU...

[posty_2k3]

I just oc'd my cpu to 1610mhz (from 1540mhz) and it runs Soul Calibur 5fps faster :D

No, Posty and I have talked about this on MSN alot.. his PC is configured just fine (he has a 9600 pro too). I'll take on ANY stock clocked XP 1800+ in a Chanka FPS battle.

Why do you always have to bring me up :P

EDIT: Wish me luck. Im gonna OC my CPU just an itty bit more :P Damn you cooliscool, you got me hooked on overclocking, lol.

[cooliscool]

Heh yes. Keep going Posty! Feels good doesn't it. Reminds me of when I hit 1.6GHz with this P3. WOW. :D Although don't be pissed if your Palomino doesn't get any much higher than that.

Strange: Here's some shots.. I didn't hit 26 in game.. it depends on the stage.. on the elevator stage even in a fight it hits 26 and sometimes higher.

Anyway. I seriously doubt a 1.2 Duron can get better FPS than I do. :\

[Strange]

Ta-da! And here is results - not bad for 1700+ not bad... Same as 1800 Tualatin speed.
1024x768 with FSAAx4... Hmm forgot to try o/c SH4 to 130 in DoA2, damn...
DoA2 - 20Fps
SoulCalibur - 40fps
Will try DoA2 with SH4 130 later...
So cooliscool - now is your turn :party: /edit oops - you did it faster =)

[cooliscool]

Haha. You got on my for running in the training stage, and now you're doing it? LOL. For the sake of accurate comparison, try running it in the same stage I did.

[Strange]

Heh - as i sad you cant reach 25 stable fps in battle - only 18-19(with 150 SH4 0_o) ;) - I think its really unplayable - just tryed it on 1700+ - horrible...
/edit
Nope - its stable 19-20fps, same as stable 40 in SoulCalibur - whats the point for me lie to you? - i have 30-35fps in DoA2 and 66-70 in SC with my 3400+ :plain:

[cooliscool]

It runs pretty good actually. Quite playable compared to playing it on my Dreamcast. :) Err... play it with the 1700+ on the stages I played it on.. :\

Now all I want is to see a Duron 1.2 outperforming me. Hah.

edit: I never said you were lying.. but on the other end of things, what makes you think I am? Have you ever ACTUALLY seen a Tualatin at 1.8GHz running Chankast, IN ACTION? I think my story is a bit more believable than a Duron 1.2 outperforming my CPU. Also I never once said my CPU outperforms yours.. possibly at 1700+, but again the higher FSB and DDR ram benefit Chankast (not much as we can see ;)).. All I'm saying is that you make all Intel CPUs out to be shit for Chankast which is clearly not true.

[posty_2k3]

Heh - as i sad you cant reach 25 stable fps in battle - only 18-19(with 150 SH4 0_o) ;) - I think its really unplayable - just tryed it on 1700+ - horrible...
/edit
Nope - its stable 19-20fps, same as stable 40 in SoulCalibur - whats the point for me lie to you? - i have 30-35fps in DoA2 and 66-70 in SC with my 3400+ :plain:


Actually, as you can see, you have the game running x/30, cooliscool has it x/60. So you cant match that up ;)

[Strange]

*edited last post

Hmm - for D1200 screens i must go to the friend... Maybe on this week go to him...
And can try on others arenas with SH4 130... But don`t want to do it now(i just o/c it to 3400+) - later.
2 posty
And so what? - there is the difference? and some screens have x/30 too... And its working on 130 SH4.

All I'm saying is that you make all Intel CPUs out to be shit for Chankast which is clearly not true.
But its true what P4 even above 3Ghz have not good fps in many games if compare them to Athlons... And also PIII is not enough for full speed Chanka work in complex games like DoA2 - thats all what i think...

[cooliscool]

...

Nevermind. :yawn:

[-indecisive-]

yo, cooliscool. you mentioned something about i should overclock my celeron. i thought about doing that once since i encode a lot of video and stuff, anyway, how would i go about doing that? i read up on it a while back, but i didn't have much patience and lost interest quick. how much higher do you think i can push up my 1.2 ghz celeron to? will my mainboard or the processor be the limit?
oh yeah, my mainboard model is Asus model TUSL-LV if it matters.
later

[cooliscool]

I've no doubt you could hit at least 1.6GHz (simply change your FSB to 133.. most of the time no voltage upping required). Try in your bios changing the FSB to 133, if it doesn't boot, give it a bit more voltage until it does.. from there, try in increments of 3mhz or so, run chankast or something else intensive until you've reached your limit. I think if your Tualatin is a TB1 stepping you could probably hit 1.75-1.8GHz fairly easily (with some more voltage of course.. 1.75ghz = 1.75v, 1.8ghz = 1.8v. Strange coincedence, eh? :P

If your mobo's bios doesn't have VCore options for Tualatin, look for an update for it on Asus's site. Also, if you don't have good cooling, just run it at the highest stable you can without upping the vcore.

edit: can you post a cpu-z shot so I can see what stepping core you have?

[posty_2k3]

Soul Calibur now reaches about ~36/60 FPS in chanka now thanks to cooliscool helpin me overclock it :D (yes, i got it to 144 :D)

[Mant0r]

Hi guys, my first post here.

Running Soul Calibur perfectly at the moment, fullscreen 1280 * 1024 res with no noticable hit on FPS.

I just have one small problem, it appears as if all the character protraits are corrupted. You can make out what they are but the colours are all mashed up.

I have tried changing the two ZWrite settings to both on, each on or none at all with no noticable effect.

Also tried varying resolutions, wondowed/fullscreen and different desktop bit depths but nothing seems to fix it.

Is this a common problem?

[edit] I see the compatability list says vs screen is glitchy, is this what I'm experiencing?

My specs in case you need them for trouble shooting:

AMD Athlon XP 3200+ (Barton Core 400mhz FSB)
Abit NF7-s (Revision 2) Mobo
1 Gig Corsair Twin-X PC3200
GeForce FX 5950 Ultra (256meg)

All using a fully updated Windows XP pro with every driver bang up to date (no beta drivers, just latest official).

Thanks in advance :)

[Strange]

Dont worry - its emulator bug...

[Mant0r]

Great, thats all I need to know.

Many thanks :)

[cooliscool]

Hm Strange I wonder how it's possible that you're running Soul Calibur faster than Posty at 1700+ when his is overclocked to 2000+.

Hmm? I suppose you chose the simplest levels of the two games on purpose.. higher fps. :\

[Strange]

*Sigh...
Don`t make me laugh - I have the T-Bred one and he - Palomino one... And what about posty`s motherboard?
BTW if you want i can especially for you d/c my CPU again and make screens on other(any what you want) level.
And again whats the reason for me to lie?! I have damn 70fps in SC with my cpu.

[cooliscool]

There's no difference between a T-Bred and Palomino except for being on an 0.13u micron process, which doesn't equal out to more speed.

Post some shots in Nightmare's level.. in a window with CPUz showing with it.. not to be an ass about things though, lets not let something like this piss eachother off, lets just have fun, ok? :)

[Strange]

Whatever...
And how i can make shots with CPU-Z - i`m playing in fullscreen mode, in window games sometimes runs slower.

[cooliscool]

See.. you're letting it get to you.. cmon man, it's no big deal. It's all about having fun. :D :)

Anyway, if you feel like comparing it doesn't matter to me, take it in fullscreen if you'd like.. :)

[Strange]

Ok, ok, maybe make in window too...
* going to d/c...
BTW which one is Nightmare`s level? - i have damn russian version...

[cooliscool]

Hm lemme get a shot, brb.

[cooliscool]

City of Water.. you can tell from the shot. ;) Just go to practice and choose it.

Actually it's Siegfried's level.. oh well. :P

[Strange]

lol =) Ok.

[Strange]

Allright - here is the 2(big) shots - same 40fps... Maybe Posty should try o/c SH4 to 115 too?
Hmm - any other wishes or should i o/c my CPU?

[SHTwo]

here is a shot from mine, full screen 1024x768

the game runs nice and smooth for me

still only getting 35fps

[cooliscool]

Overclock your SH-4 to 115 to make it run at xx/60. Currently you're running at xx/30, which is why it won't go any faster. ;) With your system you will hit way over that with the SH-4 OCed.

[mezkal]

Ohh so OC'ng the SH4 changes the ceiling limit of Chankast? Wow I never knew that. COOOL!

[Strange]

Only 35fps on A64?!?!?!? WTF? People with A64 have 65-70fps as me... Try to update motherboard drivers os something else... Also try o/c SH4 to 115 with "+" button...
BTW try to enable FSAA - you will get big quality improvement...

[Mant0r]

Just ran Chankast on my laptop for the fist time:

Graphics Card is a Mobile ATI Radeon 9600 Pro.

Nothing really to brag about, but I'll post it for comparison's sake.

http://www.clanvenom.co.uk/cpu-z-laptop.jpg

http://www.clanvenom.co.uk/soulcalibur-laptop.jpg

Will post results from my main machine when I'm home from work :)

[Strange]

What is the version of this SC??? Naomi? *looking at the "insert coin" *
Mreh - such a low fps on P4...

[cooliscool]

Can we quit the AMD>Intel bashing, please? :/

There is no naomi soul calibur, the arcade version was based on PSX hardware.

[posty_2k3]

Then whats up with the Insert Coin? LOL. I haven't seen that yet in the dreamcast version.

[Mant0r]

It's in Arcade mode, im pretty sure they all say 'insert coin' when like that.

As for the FPS, like I say its my laptop and its configured for work - not games.

16x anistropic filtering also slows it a bit, nice image quality though :)

Now I want to get home from work and post results from my games machine :bouncy:

[posty_2k3]

I'm still wondering how "Strange" has better FPS than me on a 1700+, it just aint right, lol.

[Mant0r]

I'm still wondering how "Strange" has better FPS than me on a 1700+, it just aint right, lol.

Yeah Strange... that is pretty strange :whistling

[mezkal]

Hmmm.....I was thinking the same thing - The textures look double the res when compared to the other shots - look at the winballs the timer - far. Notceably higher res. EXCEPT that I don't think it was ever released as an Arcade game based on DC hardware. I checked www.system16.com for information and its certainly not listed in either the SEGA Noami list here - http://www.system16.com/sega/hrdw_naomi_page4.html. It is however listed in the NAMCO page under System 12 (which bore no relationship to Noami aside from its Hitachi H8 co processor). Check it out here - http://www.system16.com/namco/hrdw_system12_page2.html#t3.

I've been looking a little and still haven't found a Naomi version of Soul Calibur. If some one knows different, please inform us all :)

Cheers,

mezkal

[cooliscool]

Hmmm.....I was thinking the same thing - The textures look double the res when compared to the other shots - look at the winballs the timer - far. Notceably higher res. EXCEPT that I don't think it was ever released as an Arcade game based on DC hardware. I checked www.system16.com for information and its certainly not listed in either the SEGA Noami list here - http://www.system16.com/sega/hrdw_naomi_page4.html. It is however listed in the NAMCO page under System 12 (which bore no relationship to Noami aside from its Hitachi H8 co processor). Check it out here - http://www.system16.com/namco/hrdw_system12_page2.html#t3.

I've been looking a little and still haven't found a Naomi version of Soul Calibur. If some one knows different, please inform us all :)

Cheers,

mezkal

Heh. Didn't I already post it? :p

[Mant0r]

Textures looking higher res on my shot is most probably due the fact I didnt compress the jpeg. Note its like 600k whereas everyone else's is a lot smaller, leading to bad quality.

Add to that the 16x Anistropic filtering and we might be some way to explaining why it looks so different.

As far as I know I have a standard copy of Soul Calibur (US version I think).

[fivefeet8]

There is no naomi soul calibur, the arcade version was based on PSX hardware.

Actually, there was a Naomi based arcade Soul Calibur machine. But they were only released in japan and in very few quantities.

[Strange]

Can we quit the AMD>Intel bashing, please? :/
Ok,ok :P

I'm still wondering how "Strange" has better FPS than me on a 1700+, it just aint right, lol.
Maybe T-Bred core have more differens from Palomino than just 13Nm process... :P As you can see my 1700+ working with 40fps in SC... What about your FPS?
BTW - what kind of motherboard do you have?
It's in Arcade mode, im pretty sure they all say 'insert coin' when like that.
As for the FPS, like I say its my laptop and its configured for work - not games.
16x anistropic filtering also slows it a bit, nice image quality though
Now I want to get home from work and post results from my games machine
Hmm - but your laptop P4 based and its really powerfull for laptop...
And your home results will be something like that:

[posty_2k3]

That definately is NOT right. My cpu is overclocked to a 2000+, while yours is a 1700+. Unless you oc'd that 1700+ to like, 2.4ghz (which i HIGHLY doubt), there is no way it could happen.

[cooliscool]

Here's a shot of normal SC, Arcade mode with 8xAniso 8xFSAA. Notice the Insert Coin. :P

95% JPG compression, 513KB, looks basically perfect.

Strange: nope, no difference whatsoever, just 13u micron process and a lower vcore (like the Tualatin. :D).

[SHTwo]

thank guys for the suggestions

all of my drivers,and bios`s are completly up to date,

i have my radeon, on balanced setting, i just needed to press the "+" key as mentioned

i read enough about doing that, but never did it myself doh!

anyway it is working much better now thanks


here is a new shot, this one is not compressed as much as the other jpg i posted

[Strange]

Ok - THAT is the how fps should be on A64 ;)
2 posty_2k3
That definately is NOT right. My cpu is overclocked to a 2000+, while yours is a 1700+. Unless you oc'd that 1700+ to like, 2.4ghz (which i HIGHLY doubt), there is no way it could happen.
Are you envy me? - see you are ;) But look at the facts(screens) - i make them in window with CPU-Z running, and you still can`t believe in it? - lol... And i see what you can`t believe what i o/c my CPU to 2.4Ghz - so what about this http://emutalk.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=14825&stc=1 he-he, don`t worry - you are not the 1st who can`t believe in such a thing ;)
BTW - maybe you playing from CD? - if so, try to play from cd image - fps will be better. And what moterboard you have at all???

[Kiko]

Well, mine runs in slowmotion. Its almost always around 17/30 during fights. What're some tips to make it go faster (besides buying a new videocard) ? And how can I show/get my stats that you all might need to see? ^^;

I have it running at 800x600, fullscreen, with just about no programs running.

[Mant0r]

Well just got home to test on the pc here.

64, nothing to be ashamed of :)

http://www.clanvenom.co.uk/soulcalibur-athlon.jpg

[mezkal]

Actually, there was a Naomi based arcade Soul Calibur machine. But they were only released in japan and in very few quantities.

Thanks for that. I'll go a searching. My guess is the textures will be higher res....lets find out :)

[Strange]

2 Mant0r
Heh - as i said before ;)

[-indecisive-]

I've no doubt you could hit at least 1.6GHz (simply change your FSB to 133.. most of the time no voltage upping required). Try in your bios changing the FSB to 133, if it doesn't boot, give it a bit more voltage until it does.. from there, try in increments of 3mhz or so, run chankast or something else intensive until you've reached your limit. I think if your Tualatin is a TB1 stepping you could probably hit 1.75-1.8GHz fairly easily (with some more voltage of course.. 1.75ghz = 1.75v, 1.8ghz = 1.8v. Strange coincedence, eh? :P

If your mobo's bios doesn't have VCore options for Tualatin, look for an update for it on Asus's site. Also, if you don't have good cooling, just run it at the highest stable you can without upping the vcore.

edit: can you post a cpu-z shot so I can see what stepping core you have?



here's a shot from cpu-z. alright, i'm gonna go see if i can mess around with the bios settings now. i'm sure i have pretty crappy cooling so i'll just up the fsb to 133...if i can.

edit: looks like my stepping revision is a ta1. that's not as good as tb1, right?

edit#2: looks like i can't change anything in my bios setting. i can only choose to ignore or monitor the vcore voltage, and i didn't see anything about fsb. this is my bios version by the way "ACPI BIOS Revision 1003LV". i don't know anything about this, but can i flash my bios to a new one?

edit#3: after searching around a bit looks like my crappy vaio model is protected from overclocking. do you know of any way to get around this?
thansk

[WhiteX]

Amd Xp 2000+
512DDR GeF FX 5200
Chankast overclocked to 120% i got from 38 to 47 fps but the game feeling is all right!
no lagging combos, no delayed sound! run pretty OK!

[Talas]

Isnt the SH4 a chip from the DC? How can I overclock it? Need to change something in the DCs Bios?

[Nightmare]

Isnt the SH4 a chip from the DC? How can I overclock it? Need to change something in the DCs Bios?

just hit + or - during play...

[cooliscool]

Indecisive.. hm, I'll look for a hacked bios for you.

Yes, the TA1's arent\'t as good overclockers as the TB1's, but no doubt you could hit 1.6GHz (133 FSB). No doubt whatsoever. :P

Couldn't find a bios anywhere.. so your bios has absolutely no options for raising the fsb? Well that sucks.. have you tried looking at the board and see if it has any jumpers for it? I remember my old sony P200 had em..

[Strange]

but no doubt you could hit 1.6GHz
Heh - you never can be 100% sure :p

[Nightmare]

Heh - you never can be 100% sure :p

i'm sure he can... but the question is : how many time ?... :happy:

[Strange]

And what the hell do you mean by that? :-/
Couldn't find a bios anywhere.. so your bios has absolutely no options for raising the fsb? Well that sucks.. have you tried looking at the board and see if it has any jumpers for it? I remember my old sony P200 had em..
Heh - i also have jumpers on my old 440ZX...

[Nightmare]

2 indecisive

first, be sure you have booted to xp as an adminitrator

secondly, if your bios is locked you should have a tool (on the cd with the mother board) to overclock your cpu... it's the case for me with my msi 845 ultra, i must use fuzzy logic...

[emcsquared]

ive been following this thread and ive been wondering, how do i see my cpu-z thingy?

[Clements]

ive been following this thread and ive been wondering, how do i see my cpu-z thingy?

Download CPU-Z

http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

[knowitman]

I am confused by Strange's stats.

CPU*AMD Athlon XP 1700+ @ 2.4Ghz [12x200]*

The 1700 means it runs as fast as a P4 at 1.7 Ghz. Doesn't that mean it should be a little slower. My Athlon 3000+ runs at 2.1 Ghz. I get around 55 in game with the overcloking on 115.

[fivefeet8]

I posted some more Soul Calibur Screenshots here.
http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showpost.php?p=755848&postcount=118

They were done at 1280x1024, 16xS FSAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, 16xAF. Enjoy. ;)

[Mant0r]

I am confused by Strange's stats.

CPU*AMD Athlon XP 1700+ @ 2.4Ghz [12x200]*

The 1700 means it runs as fast as a P4 at 1.7 Ghz. Doesn't that mean it should be a little slower. My Athlon 3000+ runs at 2.1 Ghz. I get around 55 in game with the overcloking on 115.


No.

Athlons are generally faster than Intel's when comparing exact clock speeds.

[cooliscool]

Depending on the app, of course..

[misfits138]

http://misfits1381.homestead.com/files/chank.jpg

http://misfits1381.homestead.com/files/pc1.jpg

http://misfits1381.homestead.com/files/pc2.jpg

http://misfits1381.homestead.com/files/pc3.jpg

Radeon 9800 Non-Pro http://misfits1381.homestead.com/files/ati.jpg

Pretty much stays in the high 30's and low 40's most of the time :down: ... replays seem to be normal speeds though.

Anything i can do with my settings to get a better framerate?

[cooliscool]

That's very odd.. you're not getting any more FPS than my p3 tualatin @ 1800 is.. :/ It doesn't make a bit of sense.

[Mant0r]

Try disabling V Sync if its currently on.

Helped my laptop with ATI quite a bit.

[misfits138]

Was on application preference before so i turned it off but didn't make a difference. :(

[Mant0r]

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/doh.jpg

[Strange]

Originally Posted by knowitman
I am confused by Strange's stats.

CPU*AMD Athlon XP 1700+ @ 2.4Ghz [12x200]*

The 1700 means it runs as fast as a P4 at 1.7 Ghz. Doesn't that mean it should be a little slower. My Athlon 3000+ runs at 2.1 Ghz. I get around 55 in game with the overcloking on 115.
Heh - you wrong... If i wann tell what my Athlon working as fast as p4 2.4Ghz, then i can write 2400+(2000Mhz real) but my CPU working at 2400Mhz(i o/c it from 1470Mhz ofcourse) - its much faster than your XP3000+ - its about 3450+ in other words its 1 of the powerfull CPUs for now...
That's very odd.. you're not getting any more FPS than my p3 tualatin @ 1800 is.. :/ It doesn't make a bit of sense.
Hmm you see strange thing? - P4 and Chanka is really a bad couple. lol - my 1700+ at 1470mhz was faster :P
But that is really interesting thing
well I recently went on a discussion with a fellow chankast user and I came to the conclusion that another strong part in your system is what sound card or integrated sound card you are using. For the longest while playing soul calibur I was getting 40-45 fps on my 2.8p4 with 1gb of ram, I even tried to run it at 3.2 with only a 5fps increase. Baffled by this decided to check my sound, well Iam using a realtek 658 integrated sound on my system but I had and old soundblaster live card lying around and decided to try it. And then it happened full 60fps while playing the game and 115fps while watching the intro (in fact it ends way earlier than the music). I tried other games with the same result, try a pci sound card (prefferely a sb live or turtle beach) if your using integrated sound(for desktop of course). hope it helps

[misfits138]

Integrated sound could be causing my problem... Realtek AC97. I don't think I have an old sound card around.

[Strange]

Hmm - just try to disable your codec in BIOS at all - and without sound you will see how Chanka working in that case... If it can work without sound...

[misfits138]

Disabled it and Soul Calibur run a little faster but no 60FPS.

[Strange]

Hmmm.... Its just a REALLY interesting situation with P4 in Chanka... Don`t know what to say... Maybe its motherboard problem or BIOS or drivers or all of it in one... :-/ Thank god what its working just perfect with Athlons...

[misfits138]

Oh well, maybe this will all be worked out in future versions.

[Strange]

Offtip
Oh, my! Cooliscool, you finally uograde your system? And how is it now?

[TalynOne]

I get around 40-45 fps on a 2.53 ghz P4. Using SB-Live sound card. ATI 9700 pro. 1 GB PC2700 memory.

[Guus]

I got like 18/28 fps with my P4 2Ghz 1024ram radeon9500@9700

[cooliscool]

Offtip
Oh, my! Cooliscool, you finally uograde your system? And how is it now?

Hehe, I got my processor and everything right here, still waiting for my motherboard from newegg. Should be here monday or tuesday of next week, then I'll test. :P

[Strange]

Cool... Interesting how well Chanka will work on your P4... But why you get only PC2700 memory? - not good for your new system and for o/c too...

[cooliscool]

Because it's all I've got as far as DDR goes just laying around. I plan on buying a 2x256 PC3200 kit in August so I can take advantage of my mobo's dual channel capability. (birthday money rocks.. hehe ;)).

My mobo allows for independent ocing so I can OC the FSB without touching the RAM speed. :)

[-indecisive-]

yo any other advice you can give me about overclcoking my 1.2 celly? i'll look at the jumpers thing later when i get the chance, but could i flash my bios to another asus mainboard model bios? or will that cause a bunch of other problems? like the tusl2 bios at the asus site(they don't have my tusl-lv board listed).
i can't upgrade at the moment so instead i wanna run this thing faster now since i've been doing a lotta cpu intensive stuff lately. anyway, i was looking around for info on my board and i saw at this overclockers site info about the board and the 1.2 celeron and how it was upped to 1.55ghz. anyway, i'll chekc on the jumpers thing later
later

[Strange]

My mobo allows for independent ocing so I can OC the FSB without touching the RAM speed.
Heh, mine too =) But with memory clocking you can o/c with greater accuracy... BTW 1200FSB is better than 800 ;)

[NAruto2015]

I have Dl DC - Soul Calibur(self)(MDS).zip but the game dont start in Chankast 0.25 what iam doing wrong?

DOE 2 LE works by me. but why Soul Calibur not?

I have triede Exoboot and Fastboot and selfboot but nothing works.

[Mant0r]

NAruto, I have the same Soul Calibur and it works fine.

Maybe try some different BIOS files?

[cooliscool]

yo any other advice you can give me about overclcoking my 1.2 celly? i'll look at the jumpers thing later when i get the chance, but could i flash my bios to another asus mainboard model bios? or will that cause a bunch of other problems? like the tusl2 bios at the asus site(they don't have my tusl-lv board listed).
i can't upgrade at the moment so instead i wanna run this thing faster now since i've been doing a lotta cpu intensive stuff lately. anyway, i was looking around for info on my board and i saw at this overclockers site info about the board and the 1.2 celeron and how it was upped to 1.55ghz. anyway, i'll chekc on the jumpers thing later
later

I'm not entirely sure if a TUSL2-C bios will work or not.. I wouldn't risk it until you can find a definitive answer. It is possible it would work though. As for more advice.. nope, can't say anymore till I know your board can OC at all. ;) I'm fairly sure it should have a jumper setting for 100>133 FSB, which that Celeron should be able to handle without a problem at all (1.6GHz, 12.0x133). :) The improvement over 1.2GHz is incredible, you won't believe it. :party:

Another option is CPUFSB (www.podien.de) which is a program to OC you can use if you know your PLL IC (go HERE (http://www.cpufsb.de/FSB.HTM) to find out how to see what PLL IC you have). The program has a preset for ASUS TUSL2-C PLL IC, which may work with your board. Try it out.

[NAruto2015]

@Mant0r i have the normal Bios file dc.bios.bin

what bios are you using?

ICQ:174463114

alucard2086@yahoo.de

[Burnpro]

i ll try to disable ac97 sound card when i get at home, right now i can barely hit 42 fps at times in SC even with everything closed on this p4 3.0c,
hope chankast team read this thread and work a bit on p4 s
btw cooliscol ur cpu is 533 mhz bus, you can barely hit 600 mhz ocing it,
and using better than pc2700 ddr memory wont improve much ur perfomance as you need to to use 5:4 ratio

[mezkal]

I have Dl DC - Soul Calibur(self)(MDS).zip but the game dont start in Chankast 0.25 what iam doing wrong?

DOE 2 LE works by me. but why Soul Calibur not?

I have triede Exoboot and Fastboot and selfboot but nothing works.

Downloaded DC Images tend to be corrupt more often than not. This is due to the fact that those who post and/or host them don't really know what they are doing as a result of the Dreamcast no longer being a current console. Make sure your image is not corrupt by comparing it with another.

Cheers,

mezkal

[Mant0r]

NAruto, I've mailed you with some suggestions.

Let me know how it goes :)

[NAruto2015]

nothing has changed.

i used chankast 0.2a and 0.25 and the Chunkast Utilities but it wont work.


But why is DOA2 LE working and Soulcalibur not?

I have changed DOA2 LE with Fastboot and after that DOA2 LE runs :happy:

But Soulcalibur wont work

[cooliscool]

i ll try to disable ac97 sound card when i get at home, right now i can barely hit 42 fps at times in SC even with everything closed on this p4 3.0c,
hope chankast team read this thread and work a bit on p4 s
btw cooliscol ur cpu is 533 mhz bus, you can barely hit 600 mhz ocing it,
and using better than pc2700 ddr memory wont improve much ur perfomance as you need to to use 5:4 ratio

How so? I've seen people with good sample Northwood A's hitting 640ish on air..:P

[weedfreak]

My specs:

Athlon XP 2100+ overclocked to "real" 2.000 mhz being Atlon 2400+ eqivalent
512 MB infinion DDR 333 (CPU FSB is overclocked from 266 to 333)
Asus A7N8x (Nforce 2, but first generation ;) )
Geforce 4 ti 4200
onboard 6.1 Sound ( no, not the Nvidia SoundChip ...ac97 ;))
Gamecube pad / Psx Pad via adaptors



Soul calibur is running on 55 - 70 of 60 Frames per second on my system when SH4 is overclocked to 120% - 130% (depending on stage 70/60 fps only in "Chaos" - stage)

I already played Story mode for a while now ;)

[lukasfr]

yeah, it's kinda weird.
me with my P4 2.6 HT 800FSB got only 30-35fps :down: in 800x600 fullscreen with chankast 0.25 of coz
gpu radeon 9200 128mb - all antialiasing and that filtering are OFF (newest drivers)
maybe cause of little ram memory (only 256mb DDR400) or mobo (abit is7-e) with intel chipset and of course integrated sound (maybe i should turn the hadrware acceleration off ?). i dunno mates, i wish it runs about 40-50fps
of course at 30fps it's still playable

sorry for my english :P

[NAruto2015]

hey man why can you all play and iam only DOA 2 LE?

[gandalf]

I'm not entirely sure if a TUSL2-C bios will work or not.. I wouldn't risk it until you can find a definitive answer. It is possible it would work though. As for more advice.. nope, can't say anymore till I know your board can OC at all. ;) I'm fairly sure it should have a jumper setting for 100>133 FSB, which that Celeron should be able to handle without a problem at all (1.6GHz, 12.0x133). :) The improvement over 1.2GHz is incredible, you won't believe it. :party:

Another option is CPUFSB (www.podien.de) which is a program to OC you can use if you know your PLL IC (go HERE (http://www.cpufsb.de/FSB.HTM) to find out how to see what PLL IC you have). The program has a preset for ASUS TUSL2-C PLL IC, which may work with your board. Try it out.

Oh man, CPUFSB works!
I overclock my Duron 700 mhz (really 697 mhz) to 721 mhz!

Thank you Cooliscool!

Sorry for the off-topic

[mezkal]

Oh man, CPUFSB works!
I overclock my Duron 700 mhz (really 697 mhz) to 721 mhz!

Thank you Cooliscool!

Sorry for the off-topic

About time someone here thanked him. Sheesh :)

[Strange]

I overclock my Duron 700 mhz (really 697 mhz) to 721 mhz!
21Mhz lol =)
2 lukasfr
Don`t worry - almost all P4 users have not many fps... Try to disable your audio in BIOS and check the speed after that...

[-indecisive-]

thank you, cooliscool!
i couldn't find any jumpers(really, i don't even know what they look like), but i found my pll info and used the cpufsb prgram. at first i just jumped to the 133 mhz setting which froze my computer. after the reboot i set it to 100, then 110 i think, then 120..etc..finally to 133. it worked, but only for a minute. i heard my crappy fan get into high gear soon after setting it, then everything just shut down. right now i have the fbs set to 120 and that's where i'm going to leave it. there's not enough room in my crappy case for better cooling, but i'm happy with the 200mhz increase anyway(even though the fan won't go out of high gear)

edit: holy shiiit! the dc bios runs so much faster for chankast and only with a 200mhz increase! man, if i were somehow to hit like 2ghz i don't think much would be running slow on chankast. by the way, my current cpu temp's going between 56 and 58 C.
edit#2: sound doesn't work when you up the fsb. i have integrated sound so that could be the problem. it's still good for when encoding video, dvd etc, but not emulation(not like i was gonna get chankast full speed anyway)

anyway, thatnks for all the help again, really appreciated.
cpu-z shot:

[lukasfr]

21Mhz lol =)
2 lukasfr
Don`t worry - almost all P4 users have not many fps... Try to disable your audio in BIOS and check the speed after that...

yeah, but playing without sound it's not the same :down:
i'll check that morning (it's 01:00 here now)
:down: stupid pentium processors

[gandalf]

yeah,24mhz it´s not a BIG overclocking, but i get more FPS in 1964 (zelda oot no slowdowns!),and PC games (like counter-strike) stable FPS.

Edit: my proccesor is overclocked to 730 mhz,and i can´t overclock more.

[misfits138]

thank you, cooliscool!
i couldn't find any jumpers(really, i don't even know what they look like), but i found my pll info and used the cpufsb prgram. at first i just jumped to the 133 mhz setting which froze my computer. after the reboot i set it to 100, then 110 i think, then 120..etc..finally to 133. it worked, but only for a minute. i heard my crappy fan get into high gear soon after setting it, then everything just shut down. right now i have the fbs set to 120 and that's where i'm going to leave it. there's not enough room in my crappy case for better cooling, but i'm happy with the 200mhz increase anyway(even though the fan won't go out of high gear)

edit: holy shiiit! the dc bios runs so much faster for chankast and only with a 200mhz increase! man, if i were somehow to hit like 2ghz i don't think much would be running slow on chankast. by the way, my current cpu temp's going between 56 and 58 C.
edit#2: sound doesn't work when you up the fsb. i have integrated sound so that could be the problem. it's still good for when encoding video, dvd etc, but not emulation(not like i was gonna get chankast full speed anyway)

anyway, thatnks for all the help again, really appreciated.
cpu-z shot:

I read 50 C is the danger zone for Intel chips... better watch it.

I think it said Intel chips should not go over 50C and AMD should not go over 60.

[Burnpro]

bah only 2 fps increase for disabling ac97 sound chip...
i wanna sell this crap p4 lolz

[cooliscool]

I read 50 C is the danger zone for Intel chips... better watch it.

I think it said Intel chips should not go over 50C and AMD should not go over 60.

The Tualatin is rated for n 69C. He's ok. :)

Anyway, to the both of you, you're very welcome. :happy:

[WhiteX]

Howdy, Cooliscool, how about Athlon XP, what is our Danger zone?

[cooliscool]

I'll go ahead and list all AMD Athlons right here. :) Keep in mind that these are MAX temps, and not particularly suitable, always shoot for much lower.


Athlon (socket A) upto 1Ghz - 90°C

Athlon (slot 1) all speeds - 70°C

Athlon Thunderbird 1.1Ghz+ - 95°C

Athlon MP 1.33Ghz+ - 95°C

Athlon XP 1.33Ghz+ - 90°C

Athlon XP T-Bred upto 2100+ - 90°C

Athlon XP T-Bred over 2100+ - 85°C

Athlon XP Barton - 85°C

Athlon 64 - 70°C

[Strange]

Athlon XP T-Bred upto 2100+ - 90°C

Athlon XP T-Bred over 2100+ - 85°C

Athlon XP Barton - 85°C

Athlon 64 - 70°C
ARE YOU CRAZY? There you get those really funny results?

Athlon XP T-Bred upto 2100+ - 40-47°C
Athlon XP T-Bred over 2100+ - 45-55°C
Athlon XP Barton 45-55°C
Athlon 64 - don`t know but 100% NOT 70°C...

BTW I with my 2.4Ghz have only 56°C with fully load in Chanka for example.

Danger zone for Athlon is about 70°C - its will burn if it get 90°C... 60°C - with this temp CPU can work unstable.
i wanna sell this crap p4 lolz
Heh - then why you bought this CPU? - there was really good alternative - Athlon64 3000+ - its cheaper than P4 and much faster...

[Nightmare]

ARE YOU CRAZY? There you get those really funny results?
...

it seems cooliscool hate amd users now.... :happy: , it should been °F instead of °C

[Guus]

ARE YOU CRAZY? There you get those really funny results?

Athlon XP T-Bred upto 2100+ - 40-47°C
Athlon XP T-Bred over 2100+ - 45-55°C
Athlon XP Barton 45-55°C
Athlon 64 - don`t know but 100% NOT 70°C...

BTW I with my 2.4Ghz have only 56°C with fully load in Chanka for example.

Danger zone for Athlon is about 70°C - its will burn if it get 90°C... 60°C - with this temp CPU can work unstable.

Heh - then why you bought this CPU? - there was really good alternative - Athlon64 3000+ - its cheaper than P4 and much faster...

Maybe he bought his P4 2 years ago (like me).
P4 was the fastest at that time.
I also want to sell my P4 for an Athlon64 but that's only for chankast :P

[Strange]

Maybe he bought his P4 2 years ago (like me).
Pentium4 3.06GhzHT 2 years ago? Are you really serious? Meh....
P4 was the fastest at that time.
Since Athlons was released Pentiums never was the fastest :P
I also want to sell my P4 for an Athlon64 but that's only for chankast
Why is only fo Chanka? - A64 faster than P4 almost in any application...

[Burnpro]

Pentium4 3.06GhzHT 2 years ago? Are you really serious? Meh....

Since Athlons was released Pentiums never was the fastest :P

Why is only fo Chanka? - A64 faster than P4 almost in any application...

p4 3.06 was out late 2002 so practically its 2 years old,
and btw a64's are faster in gaming but not on everything,
the a64 3200+ is not faster than the p4 3.2C,

[Guus]

Pentium4 3.06GhzHT 2 years ago? Are you really serious? Meh....

Since Athlons was released Pentiums never was the fastest :P

Why is only fo Chanka? - A64 faster than P4 almost in any application...

I got a 2.0ghz northwood P4 and it is a lot faster at then a Athlonxp 2000+ (wich was almost the same price at the time i bought my p4).

A mate of mine got a athlonxp 2000+ wich is slower as my p4 in a lot of games he even got a 9800xt in it :) (i got an 9700)

[Strange]

the a64 3200+ is not faster than the p4 3.2C,
True... It have the same speed... But what about the price? - Again A64 is more cheaper than P4. And don`t forget about 64bit applications support, which P4 doesn`t have at all...

[mezkal]

Strange man...I though we were done with the Intel bashing no? I mean think its great that you get off on it. But seriously, this isn't the forumn for it. Comparing one application, in one instance when said app is KNOWINGLY beta and has is known to developed on AMD hardware is really kind of silly no? The next thing you'll tell us is that Radeon's will display Chankast both more relaibly and smoothly. Well no chit shylock! If Chankast had been developed on Intel / Nvidia hardware the reverse might also be true.

That said, your comments on the Ath 64 are true. But then so what? It's also true that your country is a failed example of a sadly limited political system that now now has MAFIA in place of a true democracy (my family background is Russian/Polish and my best friend IS russian so I know my facts). Would the same be true if Kruschev had accepted aid from the west all those long years ago. Maybe, Maybe not. The truth is we don't know. I for one am not rubbing your nose in it every time I come here.

I site the above example for good reason. Facts being what they are, your love of all things AMD (seeing as you don't own an Ath64 I assume you respect it and like it all the same) is just another BELIEF SYSTEM. There is no way that you can prove in ALL CASES that the Athlon 64, nor any AMD hardware is ALWAYS going to be faster than Intel. You just chose this very situation right now as it conveniently supports your BELIEF SYSTEM. All well and good but like you I enjoy my very own Belief System wherein I have tried AMD for many years and have yet to enjoy the stability (as far as MY RESEARCH and as I far I choose to believe) that I prefer when compared with an Intel based system.

My reason for this post is plain and clear. Let's all do our best to leave our belief systems at the door so we can all progress in LEARNING and EXPANDING our conciousness.

Cheers,

mezkal

[cooliscool]

Strange man...I though we were done with the Intel bashing no? I mean think its great that you get off on it. But seriously, this isn't the forumn for it. Comparing one application, in one instance when said app is KNOWINGLY beta and has is known to developed on AMD hardware is really kind of silly no? The next thing you'll tell us is that Radeon's will display Chankast both more relaibly and smoothly. Well no chit shylock! If Chankast had been developed on Intel / Nvidia hardware the reverse might also be true.

That said, your comments on the Ath 64 are true. But then so what? It's also true that your country is a failed example of a sadly limited political system that now now has MAFIA in place of a true democracy (my family background is Russian/Polish and my best friend IS russian so I know my facts). Would the same be true if Kruschev had accepted aid from the west all those long years ago. Maybe, Maybe not. The truth is we don't know. I for one am not rubbing your nose in it every time I come here.

I site the above example for good reason. Facts being what they are, your love of all things AMD (seeing as you don't own an Ath64 I assume you respect it and like it all the same) is just another BELIEF SYSTEM. There is no way that you can prove in ALL CASES that the Athlon 64, nor any AMD hardware is ALWAYS going to be faster than Intel. You just chose this very situation right now as it conveniently supports your BELIEF SYSTEM. All well and good but like you I enjoy my very own Belief System wherein I have tried AMD for many years and have yet to enjoy the stability (as far as MY RESEARCH and as I far I choose to believe) that I prefer when compared with an Intel based system.

My reason for this post is plain and clear. Let's all do our best to leave our belief systems at the door so we can all progress in LEARNING and EXPANDING our conciousness.

Cheers,

mezkal

So true. Preach on brother. :cheers:

[Mant0r]

Mez lays the smack down once more :term: :bouncy:

[Strange]

Strange man...I though we were done with the Intel bashing no? I mean think its great that you get off on it. But seriously, this isn't the forumn for it. Comparing one application, in one instance when said app is KNOWINGLY beta and has is known to developed on AMD hardware is really kind of silly no? The next thing you'll tell us is that Radeon's will display Chankast both more relaibly and smoothly. Well no chit shylock! If Chankast had been developed on Intel / Nvidia hardware the reverse might also be true.

That said, your comments on the Ath 64 are true. But then so what? It's also true that your country is a failed example of a sadly limited political system that now now has MAFIA in place of a true democracy (my family background is Russian/Polish and my best friend IS russian so I know my facts). Would the same be true if Kruschev had accepted aid from the west all those long years ago. Maybe, Maybe not. The truth is we don't know. I for one am not rubbing your nose in it every time I come here.

I site the above example for good reason. Facts being what they are, your love of all things AMD (seeing as you don't own an Ath64 I assume you respect it and like it all the same) is just another BELIEF SYSTEM. There is no way that you can prove in ALL CASES that the Athlon 64, nor any AMD hardware is ALWAYS going to be faster than Intel. You just chose this very situation right now as it conveniently supports your BELIEF SYSTEM. All well and good but like you I enjoy my very own Belief System wherein I have tried AMD for many years and have yet to enjoy the stability (as far as MY RESEARCH and as I far I choose to believe) that I prefer when compared with an Intel based system.

My reason for this post is plain and clear. Let's all do our best to leave our belief systems at the door so we can all progress in LEARNING and EXPANDING our conciousness.

Cheers,

mezkal
Sigh...
You getting me wrong - i just love things with good parity of performance-quality-price thats all... it doesn`t matter for me who made them - Intel or AMD or VIA or... And example with my country was really dumb, sorry man.
And hey - this is partly a hardware thread is it? So just relax...

[Nightmare]

And example with my country was really dumb, sorry man.


i agree, this time mezkal you're wrong...

firstly it's not the place for politic opinion...
secondly russia is quite a young democraty, in term of time, it take time to make all these things working well...
and to finish, i don't see how you can say that is a mafia instead of a gouvernment, maybe there is corruption, but in this case we are ALL gouverned by mafias...

[mezkal]

Sigh...
You getting me wrong - i just love things with good parity of performance-quality-price thats all... it doesn`t matter for me who made them - Intel or AMD or VIA or... And example with my country was really dumb, sorry man.
And hey - this is partly a hardware thread is it? So just relax...

Actually this is software forum. "Chankast, how fast on your hardware" was hijacked in recent days by yourself in a various attempts to bate cooliscool into arguement. You even made jibes at him as too how fast his 3ghz processor would run BEFORE he got his motherboard. Please explain your logic?

I'm sorry but there is none. Don't hide behind the "balance of things" "Intel or AMD as long as its fast". I've been around (we all have here). It's flaimbaiting, plain and simple. To no effect and it serves noone but yourself. I've sat here and watched it and become more and more dissapointed (no, not angry I'm not into that, it's your silly arguement not mine).

Cooliscool has already been more than polite and asked you too stop. You did for a bit (say 1 day?) and then as soon as he shares his news of his upgrade to an another Intel CPU, you started again.

This forum is Chankast. Not AMD/Intel wars. Please stop playing games with me and with others here. It's getting old and quickly.

Nightmare, please look at my posts. Do I come across as undereducated, limited in my views or non-worldly? I grew up in an immigrant family. From poor beginnings. My famly escaped the Holocaust and started a new life here. Life was hard, complicated and generally stressful. The ghosts of nazi demons still haunt our family to this day.

My comments on Russia stand. I realise that it may seem offensive but it was too make a point. That sometimes even the truth is better avoided to save ppl's feelings. ie my rubbing your nose in it comment. It is not enough to call Russia a young democracy. It isn't one. It won't be one for some years too come. It's on its way yes, but it does have some SEVERE problems with MAFIA. This I KNOW to be fact. If I didn't I wouldn't say it.

The point was to make it clear that some things just don't need to be said. Nor do they need to be repeated ad nauseum. We should be able to accept whatever differences we have here and bloody well just move along.

Yes, there have certainly been times when I have raised the ire of Trotterwatch with some of my posts. But my points have never been invalid. I have just been heavy handed at those times and have been treated accordingly.

I only ask that Strange does the same. Even handed behaviour AKA Tolerance is the only way this "globalised" world will ever get along. Like it or not (and I really *really* do) this is one of the most international emulation or technology forums for that matter I have ever had the pleasure to be a part of.

Tolerance does not mean that you should accept what I have to say or what I believe, but it does mean that you should give me and others the room to say what we feel. It certainly doesn't mean flaimbating. No sirree.

That's the complete opposite of tolerance. That, dear freinds, is where things like Nazism take root. What starts as a tease can very easily end up in divisionism. All I ask is that Strange find more than just one thread to post in here for the moment so that others may feel more comfortable when posting here too. I have been watching this thread disintegrate into stupid discussions of bus speed overclocking possibilities - none of which his spit to do with Chankast.

Maybe if Strange didn't feel the need to bait here I wouldn't feel the need to respond with this "essay".

Cheers,

mezkal

[-indecisive-]

let's quit the drama now....please..=]
nice "essay" by the way, but i didn't really think much of the amd/intel wars. i understand your arguments, but i don't think this whole thing would've grown into anything comparable to nazism haha

[Strange]

2 Nightmare
Thx for support... I really appreciate it...
2 mezkal
My god... Maybe i REALLY shouldn`t reply to your post... Just cut out that nonsense about my country in future, or maybe you really want to start flame war about politic and countries here? *Sigh... Just RELAX.
Wooh, ok stopping offtopic here.

[holymoz]

returning in topic I just now tried soul calibur, very nice game and fast too!!

runs at 30/30 full speed underclocking a bit the cpu about 70 instead of default 100

my specs are

P4 2,8 ghz 800 fsb HT
mobo asus p4p800
512 ddr ram 400mhz
ati radeon 9200se 128mb ddr

I wish to know on what depends the very difference of speed in chankast emulation, for example dead or alive 2 reach about max 17/30, slow, but SC go easy at full speed, both games are about the same genre and graphic ecc.

[Nightmare]

I wish to know on what depends the very difference of speed in chankast emulation, for example dead or alive 2 reach about max 17/30, slow, but SC go easy at full speed, both games are about the same genre and graphic ecc.

it's because these 2 games were not developped by the same team coder, it's 2 different game, even if they look similar...

and nice it's not the good word :happy: soulcalibur is one of the best fighting game, you need to play with someone else to understand what i mean...

here my hall of fame :
1. soulcalibur (dreamcast)
2. killer instinct (arcade)
3. soulcalibur 2 (xbox or game cube)
4. tekken 4 (ps2)
5. knucklehead (arcade)

[Strange]

same genre and graphic ecc.
Hmm - DoA2 have more complex graphics than SC i think and different graph engine too... In DoA2 i have only 32fps when in SC 65fps...

[Heinster]

Yes DOA is visually more stunning then SC.... But lacks in every other department when comparing to SC..... Still a nice game though :) SC just set an enourmess standard for 3D fighting...

[mezkal]

it's because these 2 games were not developped by the same team coder, it's 2 different game, even if they look similar...

and nice it's not the good word :happy: soulcalibur is one of the best fighting game, you need to play with someone else to understand what i mean...

here my hall of fame :
1. soulcalibur (dreamcast)
2. killer instinct (arcade)
3. soulcalibur 2 (xbox or game cube)
4. tekken 4 (ps2)
5. knucklehead (arcade)

Cool top 5! :)

Actually guys Soul Blade/Edge, Soul Calibur, DOA1/2/3/Ultimate, Tekken 1/2/3 and Ninja Gaiden on XBOX are all by one awesome team : TEAM NINJA. Though they aren't credited for the Soul series they are for Tekken and you'll notice a certain WOODEN NINJA from Tekken 2 happens to be in SC. 10 "FIGHTER GOD" points to the first person to post his name.

Pretty cool eh?

:)

[Nightmare]

Cool top 5! :)

Actually guys Soul Blade/Edge, Soul Calibur, DOA1/2/3/Ultimate, Tekken 1/2/3 and Ninja Gaiden on XBOX are all by one awesome team : TEAM NINJA. Though they aren't credited for the Soul series they are for Tekken and you'll notice a certain WOODEN NINJA from Tekken 2 happens to be in SC. 10 "FIGHTER GOD" points to the first person to post his name.

Pretty cool eh?

:)

a wooden ninja who have the ability to refresh is health ? it's quite difficult, can you give us another indication ? :happy:

same dev team for sc and doa ? hum... in that case it's strange that there is so many differencies...

ha... soulblade... another good one...

[mezkal]

Ok....for the slow ppl or those who've never played Tekken 2/3 or Soul Calibur

The answer is.......

Yoshimitsu!!

Now think a bit Nightmare.....Team.....Ninja! Yoshimitsu is a wooden (or robotic) Ninja.

There you go.

[Nightmare]

The answer is.......

Yoshimitsu!!

damn... i was so close... :whistling

[mezkal]

Lol

[abba]

ok ok this is simple some speed slowing on xp occur to the windows updating utiltiy
just simple search for (wauclt.exe)in your windows directory and delete it
another naggy program is (cmss.exe) they will stuck even your windows
so you want full throtle delete these nagy apps but remeber to back them up so
incase you delete wrong app
tell me if it work for you

[achiles]

This is how it runs on my system.

specs:2.8 p4 oced to 3.2 (mild I know but I dont need anything faster my max is 3.5 with my pc4000 ram) 160 wd harddrive sata 1gb ram and other bla bla stuff. :)

and this is with action going, not standing like morons looking at each doing nothing. :party:

[Clements]

Please don't post uncompressed bitmaps! Those pictures are over 900KB in size so take me a whole minute to download.

[achiles]

Please don't post uncompressed bitmaps! Those pictures are over 900KB in size so take me a whole minute to download.

sry fixed. :)

[Clements]

sry fixed. :)

Much better, thanks. :)

[abba]

sure that looks good as far as i think[B]

[AbracadabrA]

Soul Calibur works slow for me 15-30 FPS.

System spec:
Pentium 4 @ 1.70GHz
nVidia Geforce 4 Ti 4200 128MG
Creative Sound Blaster LIVE!
512mg PC133 ram
Maxtor+ 60GB HDD

[achiles]

Soul Calibur works slow for me 15-30 FPS.

System spec:
Pentium 4 @ 1.70GHz
nVidia Geforce 4 Ti 4200 128MG
Creative Sound Blaster LIVE!
512mg PC133 ram
Maxtor+ 60GB HDD

usually for p4 you have to to push the sh4 to 106 to force the chankast to go at x/60 instead of x/30 fps. try bumping the sh4 see if you get a better result.

[emcsquared]

weird, i changed my resolution from 640x480 to 1280x1034 and gained 4-5 fps, and my game became smoother. Havent tried it with other games yet, but i will.

1.4 celeron
640mb ram
ati radeon 9000 128mb

[Dan_Lao]

I found that running the game from an image is faster than using CD(has many of u may know) SC easily runs at 56-60 frames on my machine

Specs
AMD 2000+ @1.85 GHZ
512 M DDR RAM
NVIDIA 5900

[Burnpro]

hey guys
i now switched to a 2700+ athlon xp and now i run the game full 10-12 fps faster tha my previous p4 3.0 800bus,
now i run 48-50 fps all the time, its playable, but i noticed when i was playin the arcade version, that 50 fps is still "slow". Dont get me wrong, i love the emu and its a great effort for that team to make a playable DC emu, but to play SC you need the "full" 60 fps to play the game like everybody do,
when i was at the arcade i was thinking WTF ??? too fast??? and every player was wtf wrong with you, the game look normal, like every day..

[Strange]

Jmm, for me on even 50fps game is hell fast...
But Its really more than fast on 65-70fps...

[cooliscool]

Yeah, even at 50fps the game is very fast.

I don't know how an AthlonXP 2700+ is beating your P4 3.0C, my 3.06@3.4B is getting insane FPS.

[Burnpro]

i was at my friend house and he has the gamecube version and indeed the game look faster than it look here running 48-51 fps, i had serious problems trying to repel some of his attack due to the speed of the game.

[Strange]

Really interesting... Try to disable Vsync.

[Nightmare]

i was at my friend house and he has the gamecube version and indeed the game look faster than it look here running 48-51 fps, i had serious problems trying to repel some of his attack due to the speed of the game.
lol, the good speed for soulcaliur is 60 fps (with 50fps it's too slow), it's a fast game, and that's why it's so good.

if you want the moves, just go to practice, select the character you want the moves, select the oponent, press start and go to the command list...

hmm... i'm just curious, in the time attack -arcade- mode i've made 48,60 s (with rock and without cheating), it's around 6s by fight, so is there someone here with better result ?

[Burnpro]

time attack mean nothing.. you should come here to dominican republic and face some hard guys.. they play pretry good. i was a good player also but got no time to practice lately,
if you dont know what i mean by "slow" try the game on a real console and you will notice it.

[Nightmare]

you should come here to dominican republic and face some hard guys.. they play pretry good...

that's exactly why i'm so interested by chankast :happy: (because maybe..., one day..., a netplay will be added...)

[mezkal]

Yes and that day I will beat you alll! MUHAHHAHHAHA :P

[cooliscool]

I accept that challenge! Mezkal, prepare for your death~ :P

[desertboy]

Just change your videocard and all.
Hmm - just tryed 61.36 Forceware - big fps increase in 1024x768 with FSAA8x(66-70fps the same as with 640x480)! But 8x looking like 4x now... Anyway really great result...

lol - on the screen he is just in game menu - any machine will show high fps in it... And about HT - its not that good as all think about it - its just makes 2 logical CPU cores and nothing more - performance increase with it about 5-7% only... Any powerfull CPU even without HT can handle such a load.


Well both cores share the cache ram, do they have a full set of registers each, I find 30% is a more accurate picture of speed increase through hyperthreading as long as your running code written to take advantage of SMP or running multiple tasks. Chankast only ever uses 1 of your cpu's (Even virtual), I tried running Chankast and Virtualdub with hyperthreading disabled and it caused huge performance issues (would drop to 15 FPS maybe if there is 2 sets of registers (1 for each CPU) this would explain the difference I'm seeing). Even in game I notice little performance issues when encoding although encoding time drops from 2-3 hours to 8-9 hours.

Hyperthreading has it's moments just not enough of them to be truly interesting especially to an emulation geek.


I didn't realise I'd posted a pic of Daytona USA running on Chankast not Soul Calibur I'll try to post some in game shots in the next couple of days (With Virtualdub running and task manager etc.).

[Strange]

Ok,maybe i`ll try to do the same for interest...

[-indecisive-]

compared to my old system, chankast screeaams on my new one! w/cpu at 120, 8xaa/16xaf(1280x1024) and vsync on, the game is at a rock solid 60fps w/ no fluctuation. i have to have vsync on for my monitor so i'm guessing that's what's causing the fps to be capped at 60.

my system's a a64 3500+ slight oc to 2.4ghz(220x11), 1gb ram, and a 6600gt.

i love this emulator!

[raiden_quake]

PIII 500 GF2 64MB

3D:3---7fps - -lll

2D:25---30fps

[haz]

got a A64 3000+ and i'm running SC at 50-60fps, btw i'm still amazed by the stability/speed of the emu. :D

but if i change any AA or aniso setting i got instable framerate : 20-50 fps either using a radlink or the omega drivers.. i have a radeon 9800pro so i dunno if it's normal :huh: mabe it's coz of the drivers maybe not :P

[Borisz]

Athlon XP running at 1,6ghz, 1gb ram on 333mhz, Geforce 4 MX 440, average 25-35 fps (sometimes hits 40 or 45 on the water tunnel or chaos levels).

Strangely, it runs faster in 1280x1024 then it does in 640x480. I wonder how would it look in 1280x960, that way the textures would be exactly zoomed to 2x, so they wouldn't look vomit like they sometimes do in anything other then 640x480.

[-indecisive-]

that's why you use anti aliasing

[Borisz]

AA won't do jack if, say, the lifebar gfx won't "touch" each other correctly. It will only blend the polygon edges.

[loopsider]

how weird we have all these differences. (specs in sig) I get full speed, except a bit of slowdown at 1280x1024. I play 1024x768, overclock 110 and I will get no slowdown whatsoever.

What overclocking does is gets rid of the slowdown, but if you already have constant slowdown, I dont think it will always speed you up 100%. Or else another person's AMD k6 will be able to get their SH4 overclocked to 300% and play at 60 FPS...

[UniverseStar]

Well, well.

I just wanted to tell you that my Chankast, when confronted with Soul Calibur, runs (of course overclocked SH4-Proc) with about 80fps in menu (sometimes falls down to 40fps) - and the game itself about 55fps.

My specs:
P4@2,4GHz(B), 384Mb DDR, Maxtor 200GB HD, DVD-ROM & DVD-Burner, GeForce FX 5800 (128 DDR-II), Logitech MX-700.