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[chocobos69]

Is it possible to delete the echelon intro and other team intros in a .cdi or .iso file with a tool ?

[D623932883]

Some people may wish to remove the Echelon intro for one reason or another, a major one being that the intro sometimes screws up the sound/music initialization in their rip of Unreal Tournament (making it emit a nasty screeching sound until a game is started).
(Following example applies to DOA2LE. You can use a similar method for the other games, but the file size will be different.)

1. Extract the 1ST_READ.BIN file from the CDI or your CD.
2. Fire up your hex-editor (I like HEdit or Hex Workshop) and open 1ST_READ.BIN, go to offset 0xF0000 and copy the Hex all the way to 983040 (the end).
3. Make a new file 1929928 bytes large, and paste the contents of the clipboard into it.
4. Save the file, and place it into a directory (ie, C:\SELFBOOTDOA2LE), and extract the data from the CD or the CDI file into that directory as well. Now just follow ECHELON's self-boot tutorial and re-image the CD

This might be what you are looking for.

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[chocobos69]

Thanks a lot :)

[Grant64]

3. Make a new file 1929928 bytes large, and paste the contents of the clipboard into it.

What does this mean - make a new file!

[chocobos69]

i did all that but when i mount the new image with Daemon 3.46 or Alcohol, i have io control error in chankast !
i have tested to install Daemon 3.29 with Win Xp but when i restart my computer, i have a error message : Impossible to find SCSI virtual driver. :(

[Player 1]

those intros wont let me play my game :(

[iancloud2001]

I would also like to know how to just "make" a file any given size. Can anyone explain how briefly, please? As I am sure it's not a hard process, just one that I don't know yet. Thanx in advance :bouncy:.

[trigger]

if ur trying to play skies of arcadia give up on deleting the intros

[rcgamer]

this only works on a few(like 2) games. doa2le and virtua striker i think it was.

[Player 1]

every game that has a echelon intro doesnt work on the emulator for me because it just freezes after that :(

[D623932883]

3. Make a new file 1929928 bytes large, and paste the contents of the clipboard into it.

What does this mean - make a new file!
I would also like to know how to just "make" a file any given size. Can anyone explain how briefly, please? As I am sure it's not a hard process, just one that I don't know yet. Thanx in advance :bouncy:.

In Hex Workshop select "New" under the File tab then, under the Edit tab, select "Insert...". Type in 1929928 with "Dec" selected and click OK. I'm not certain but I think that is how it's done.

I didn't make that guide, nor have I ever used it. I'm sorry, I don't know how to solve any of your problems with absolute certainty. :(

[iancloud2001]

*@ D623932883* Thanks for the info, man! I knew it wuz something simple like that :happy:. I'll try it out right away.

[astroduck]

every game that has a echelon intro doesnt work on the emulator for me because it just freezes after that :(

That's not entirely true, some games with Echelon intro work fine like Rival School Project Justice.

[n00by duddy]

I have an echelon rip of grandia 2, it goes until the title screen and freeze when pressing start. Is it the same on correct dump of the game or is it an echelon intro bug again?

[Heinster]

Sonic2 is from echelon(my version) and it waits to hang untill the first quarter of the first lvl ;)

[astroduck]

All games with Echelon intro are evil. :)

Anyways, just wait for the next version of chankast and hopefully the bug will fix.

[IceFlow2]

I have a echelon release of ecco the dolphin. It seems to crash on the second level yet is states in the compatability lis that it works. I'm thinking it might be the echelon intro.

[chocobos69]

Echelon intros still don't work with chankast 0.25 :huh:

[rcgamer]

i dont think that the chankast team are to concerned about getting them to work. remember "we are not doing this to promote piracy" and "echelon intros wont work if you have one then get a decent rip". ok. i just did those quotes from memory but it is something very similar. I think these may work just through the evolution of the emu(emulating dreamcast more accurately) but not because chankast team is trying to get them to ,of course i could always be wrong.

[Heinster]

Well let's just be honest here and look at the facts.... If you make an emulator that only runs ripped/copied games of the original then you are promoting piracy (I'm not saying intentionally).

BUT!!!! Concidering it is a machine left by Sega 2,5 years ago and oficially concidered dead I don't have any problems with it. Piracy is more when you try to profit from someone elses succes (copy cd's/movies/games) and make money out of it....

So on one hand they shouldn't be talking about we are not promoting Piracy cause on one hand they are. So with looking at that why stop here and not make the Echelons versions work? And on the other hand it's not really piracy cause no one is making any money out of it(perhaps Sega because of renewed interest in Dreamcast) and that's just as good a reason to make the Echelon versions work.....

[AndreaSpooky]

has F355 challenge an echelon intro?

[spaffdog]

i don't know why everyone hates the intro's so much.

i've got loads of games with echelon intros. the newer intro's.. like... unreal tournament, spideman and sonic2 etc all work fine with chankast. (the one with the bouncing ball made of dots on the top half of the screen)

the only game i have with an into that doesn't work is doa2 le TOTALLY different echelon intro from all the others i have. but it doesn't bother me much. i'll just play the original doa2 (pal) on my dreamcast

yay!

[ArcaneLore]

It's obvious why people hate the intros. They downloaded the game to get a pirated copy of a full game, not some crappy ass altered game with things cut out.

[mezkal]

Intros are part of the scene. It's how the hackers and crackers let it be known that they were the first to release. What's silly here is that people are actually making statements like ArcaneLore's. Cmon man. If you want the FULL GAME. Buy It!

[abba]

this hwo to skip echolen
to skip cholon intro you have to erase it memory as our friend has posted it
you need to be faimaliar with a hex editor if not try downloading it at
download.com or google then you need to copy the data of specific location which is nessacry for loading the game and delete extra bytes or data
you would understand once you get a hex editor
i prefer hex workshop you can even edit you save games files with it once you are good with memory and byte ordering plus game shark and its codes
but here we need to skip echleon nag image so do as he said you can ask me if you dont understand plus dont ask me for an already modified image sorry in advance for that
Before do it own your own risk if you dont like so be it any damage to you pc
by this in anyway ia m not responisble

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[Harlay]

it's not work on Virtua Tennis 2002.

[nailclippers]

I would look for help myself more, but my internet is being shitty the last few days (pages not loading without trying a hundred times, etc... and all around pissing me off... I called comcast they said they won't be out for a couple days) so how do you extract stuff from the cd in order to do this trick? I didn't quite get it.. what program do you use? I tried winiso...

[nailclippers]

Okay, I've been looking around on my own for a long time now... I have tried a few things... like well every tutorial I have found on here for the doa fix... but none will work... Is there another release of the game out somewhere? Don't tell me where it is, of course, but does anyone know if there is another release? I don't have the cables and all that to just rip my own copy of it.. plus it looks hard to do from what I read of doing it

[bleeder]

right on, playin doa le now :happy:

[MOCAS]

echelon, apart from the intros used some compressions techniques on some of it's rips, instead of ripping the game to death as some other groups did, maybe the problem comes from this?

if it goes pass the intro i find it hard to believe the incoming problems derive from it, and removing a piece of code like an intro at the beggining shoudn't impact the playability of the game (if you don't mess with the trainers ofcourse)

if/when chankast emulates 100% the dreamcast we will be seeing echelon rips playing, and even better than the dreamcast because you can overclock it and overcome the decompression overhead

just my two cents

[IceFlow2]

1. Extract the 1ST_READ.BIN file from the CDI or your CD.

What do you mean by extract first read.bin?
I thought the file had to be compressed for it to be extracted?

What's the best program to use?
Ive tried WinISO and IsoBuster but they don't let me access the files on the CD.

I just copied and pasted the 1st_READ.bin file from the mounted image and opened it with hex workshop. I clicked ctrl+G and entered 0xF0000 and it took me here. Is this the right place to be?

[IceFlow2]

Ok so Ive figured out how to edit the 1ST_READ.bin copy down to the words "The End" not the actual end of the 1ST_READ file itself.

I replaced the original IST_READ.bin file with the new one in a directory I created and then copied the rest of the files from the original VON.cdi image to that dir.

Now Ive read ECHELON's "Dreamcast Self-Boot Tutorial" and I still cant figure out how to turn the contents of the newly created folder into an .iso.

When I add all the files to a new WinISO image the total filesize is only 130MB for some reason, any Idea's?

OMG, Ive just realized that the filesize of the image is 765MB but when I select all the files when browsing the CD it totals 152MB, does this mean that its corrupt?

[mashakos]

Anyways, just wait for the next version of chankast and hopefully the bug will fix.

Astroduck, why do you keep saying that?? Is it because you want to shut the n00bs up? :P

[cuda7171]

Noobs are not bad! they dont bother me at all. they seem frustrated with there problems.they probably dont even know which questions to ask,or what the answer means. that mixed with exitement, the DC is a awesome platform.

Noobs Welcome! ?

[GD666]

WELL in facts not exactly....
DC games ripping is still considered piracy cause licences are still valid
those games could in fact become abondonware only 5 years after the DC death
which means my dear heinster that you will have to wait a little bit more if you want to get (barely) legal game rips

Said barely cause abandonware is not really considered legal but it's tolerated:whistling