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[BlackNinja]

Solar read in other post alpha 0.3 release next week ?
http://www.emutalk.net/showthread.php?t=21621&page=3


this is ok or false ?

sorry developers for this noob question :whistling

[Phreaky]

I think it translates to "the 0.3 alpha version will be released in approximately one week"

Im no whizz at spanish though, so dont quote me on it.

~P

[TheFreeman]

"2) The next alpha 0.3 version will be available this next week, possibly.

3) It hasnt been talked about it, but rumors say that they are reprogramming a mayor portion of the code and the final objective is, look out, to be able to emulate the DC on a PC of 600mhz!!!"

That is the translation. So good news everyone.

[BlackNinja]

thx for help friends :D

[Phreaky]

garoffi always said it will use SSE, yet as far as I know there arent many (if any at all) CPU's that run at 700MHz and have SSE (Athlon XPs and higher for AMD, Maybe the new celerons and higher for intel - all of which are higher than 700mhz). I just cant see how this will work. Although going by previous suprises it will most definately work ;)

Unless its a major-major-major rewrite.

Please correct me if im wrong, there probably is a 700mhz with SSE, or maybe I have completely the wrong end of the stick.

~P

[mezkal]

garoffi always said it will use SSE, yet as far as I know there arent many (if any at all) CPU's that run at 700MHz and have SSE (Athlon XPs and higher for AMD, Maybe the new celerons and higher for intel - all of which are higher than 700mhz). I just cant see how this will work. Although going by previous suprises it will most definately work ;)

Unless its a major-major-major rewrite.

Please correct me if im wrong, there probably is a 700mhz with SSE, or maybe I have completely the wrong end of the stick.

~P

Thier target is obviously XBOX :P ALL Pentiums III, Athlon XP and Higher CPU's are equipped with SSE. SSE2/3 are P4/P4EE only. Therefore XBOX's *may* be able to run Chankast.

Here's hoping :)

[Nightmare]

Thier target is obviously XBOX :P

that's exactly what i'd thought...

EDIT * SSE started with firsts P3... 400/450 mghz

[Phreaky]

hmmm Xbox *shudders*

[Nightmare]

but the point is that a xbox can't use gdroms... i'am wrong ?

EDIT* i remember that 3 years ago, i eard it could be possibe on unix/linux system, just rumours of course... it was when lot of people spoke about nightmare (not me, the false emulator)...

[Mokona]

Neither can a PC, so what's the big point here?

[jareg]

Its good to hear that a new version is coming again :bouncy:

[Heinster]

wow O_o

[DarthDazDC]

gr8! but i've got an althlon xp 1900+ processor and I haven't got sse supported. I've tried sum programs to enable it but they don't let me enable it.
But gr8 to see a release in the next week :)

[ultima528]

Are you sure you don't have SSE? Try out CPU-Z (http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php). It tells you your processor, memory, and motherboard chipset information.
If you check out AMD's page on the Athlon XP for desktops (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_3734_3736,00.html), under the section "Tomorrow's Technology Today", it says
3DNow!™ Professional Technology (72 instructions, full SSE compatibility)

[yop]

my 2400+ wasn't known as SSE by chankast with the oldest bios of my motherboard, and I flashed my bios, now it works ( probably SSE not enable for DarthDazDC too )

[cooliscool]

Thier target is obviously XBOX :P ALL Pentiums III, Athlon XP and Higher CPU's are equipped with SSE. SSE2/3 are P4/P4EE only. Therefore XBOX's *may* be able to run Chankast.

Here's hoping :)

SSE2 is in the Athlon64.

[S0LAR]

again, I just highlighted the stuff found on http://www.talfi.net/e107/forum_viewtopic.php?3.5771.20, so if you guys want more info, head on there. if you can't read spanish, try google translation... or something. but those quotes were the stuff that really called my attention.

the first one says "2) The next version alpha 0.3 will be this next week surely."

the other says "I guarantee Chankast will run on 600-700Mhz. They've been giving reasons and motives and they've been very convincing, one can notice they know what they do to perfection."

again, these are quoted from the thread I linked above, I really can't attest their veracity, but since the people posting threre are either involved in the develompent of the emu or watched presentations and discussions about it, I am prone to believe them.

also, I don't know about SSE, but my older PC is a P3-550mhz. so, if all P3s have it, then there can surely be a 600mhz machine with SSE...

[Stezo2k]

the other says "I guarantee Chankast will run on 600-700Mhz. They've been giving reasons and motives and they've been very convincing, one can notice they know what they do to perfection."

again, these are quoted from the thread I linked above, I really can't attest their veracity, but since the people posting threre are either involved in the develompent of the emu or watched presentations and discussions about it, I am prone to believe them.

also, I don't know about SSE, but my older PC is a P3-550mhz. so, if all P3s have it, then there can surely be a 600mhz machine with SSE...

well i'll believe it when i see it, too good to be true to be honest, would be great though for people with lower specs

[Strange]

Hmm - the same specs as for PSX emulator =) Time will show...

[Nightmare]

Neither can a PC, so what's the big point here?

if gdroms can be read, the authors could proceed like the authors of bleemcast...
and because on our pc, it's do-it-yourself... people with xbox don't have necessarily a pc...

[Xstriker]

hope it will have win 2000 compatibility

[ultima528]

Why do you insist on saying that in every thread you go to? It's already been said that the WIP has Win2k support already, so cut with it already! I've seen you say this in almost every thread about the future of Chankast.
For example, this thread: Chankast WIP (http://www.emutalk.net/showthread.php?t=21347). You posted in that thread, so there's no mistake you read it.
See the second item on the list?
- Windows 2000 compatibility

[knowitman]

Why does everyone insist on porting everything to the XBox?

[ultima528]

Because a lot of people like playing games on TV whenever possible, and they like the feel of holding a controller, and they have an XBOX =)
(I'm not one of those people though, so I'm just taking a wild guess :icecream: )

[TheFreeman]

the first one says "2) The next version alpha 0.3 will be this next week surely."

the other says "I guarantee Chankast will run on 600-700Mhz. They've been giving reasons and motives and they've been very convincing, one can notice they know what they do to perfection."


Im sorry, but they DONT guarantee anything, they are just saying that THEIR OBJECTIVE is to make chanka run on a 600mhz comp, nothing more, they are not guaranteeing it.

[TheFreeman]

"2) The next alpha 0.3 version will be available this next week, possibly.

3) It hasnt been talked about it, but rumors say that they are reprogramming a mayor portion of the code and the final objective is, look out, to be able to emulate the DC on a PC of 600mhz!!!"

That is the translation. So good news everyone.

Look on my post there, that is the exact translation, and I should know, since spanish is my native language. And Im an english teacher, and simultaneous translator, among other things.

[mezkal]

SSE2 is in the Athlon64.

You're right but do u know many 700Mhz or lower Ath64s? :P

LOL

Cheers,

Mezkal

[Strange]

lol :-) There is nobody here who saying what 700Mhz CPU have SSE2 support =) - it was just answer to this SSE2/3 are P4/P4EE only.

[S0LAR]

The Freeman: maybe you read the whole page and decided to translate it like that. however, the translation is what I posted was relating to THESE two quotes:


2) La proxima versión alpha 0.3 estará esta semana que viene seguramente.

the first quote said "seguramente". as far as I know, that means "surely", not "possibly"


Garantizo que Chankast correra en 600-700 Mhz. Estuvieron dando razones y motivos y fueron muy convincentes, se nota que saben lo que hacen a la perfeccion.

the second one (notice it was not immediatelly following that one, it wasn't even posted by the same person in the original page, and it does not have a number 3 in front of it) says "garantizo". and that, as far as I know, means GUARANTEE. now, it wasn't said by a chanka team member, but rather by someone who watched presentations by the chanka team and is pretty convinced that this will happen.

again, I'm not saying either is true, but those are the words these people used.

[TheFreeman]

I didnt post "surely", cause "surely" has a stronger connotation than its spanish counterpart, in terms of meaning. Yes, the exact translation would be "surely", but in spanish, "seguramente" is not as strong as "surely", its more of a "possibly". Its just a matter of language tradition more than actual graphic translation.

You are right about that second statement, I didnt read that. But mind you, its NOT an actual statement from a CHANKA dev. If this will be true, its MORE than awesome.

[DarthDazDC]

my 2400+ wasn't known as SSE by chankast with the oldest bios of my motherboard, and I flashed my bios, now it works ( probably SSE not enable for DarthDazDC too )

Well i tried cpuz and it doesnt show sse supported, and I can't seem to find any updates to my NECCI motherboard.

[S0LAR]

TheFreeman: well, it's all cleared up now, then :)

[life_247]

i think that SSE is only on some Athlon Xp chips. Could be a ,motherboard problem.

Also on the GD-rom front the icarus team are still looking into it i believe. Icarus is also been slated for a summer realease. Crazy Taxi now runs at full speed on Ectors 2Ghz machine!!!

[refraction]

all athlon xp chips support SSE, if your motherboard is old then it wount allow the pc to use the SSE support. i firmly suggest a bios update if you can get one, if not, a new motherboard is in order ;)

[DarthDazDC]

all athlon xp chips support SSE, if your motherboard is old then it wount allow the pc to use the SSE support. i firmly suggest a bios update if you can get one, if not, a new motherboard is in order ;)

Well i finally found an update, but when its updating, the laptop switches off halfway through completing it. I just hope someone buys the laptop off ebay otherwise I'll be struck with an athlon 1900+ for a while!

[jdsony]

Well i finally found an update, but when its updating, the laptop switches off halfway through completing it. I just hope someone buys the laptop off ebay otherwise I'll be struck with an athlon 1900+ for a while!

I had a computer that was locking up a lot and I knew it was something to do with the bios. The motherboard bios and the video bios were on the same chip. I was flashing the bios and it froze so my motherboard was trash.

[desertboy]

if gdroms can be read, the authors could proceed like the authors of bleemcast...
and because on our pc, it's do-it-yourself... people with xbox don't have necessarily a pc...


I have a chipped xbox and you cannot get an emulator to boot on the xbox without 1 of 3 things

1. M$ sign the software with their key and press it to an original dvd for you

2. You've chipped you're xbox and are running an illegal bios. You'll find 99% of xbox fanatics who play emulators on their xbox have done this. They do have PC's and FTP from their pc to xbox on regular basis (Through the xbox standard ethernet card).

3. They're running some horrible software mod that might go wrong, needs a pc to look after and is a pain in the arse. Most people who do this are suckers for punishment and play copied games aren't into the emu side. (Certainly not all though, there was a special release of surreal64 to work with softmod's)

If this is really going to work on my xbox I'm going to cry this would be amazing. I can't see it happening though 64 meg of ram isn't going to be enough and 733 P3 well we'll see. Any increase in performance would be great as Shenmue runs ever so slightly slow on my PC 27 FPS out of 30 which screws the sound. A little bit more and I'm there I can complete it all over again.

[Nightmare]

You've chipped you're xbox and are running and illegal bios. You'll find 99% of xbox fanatics who play emulators on their xbox have done this. They do have PC's and FTP from their pc to xbox on regular basis (Through the xbox standard ethernet card).

you should read the posts carefully...
1. i've just said that IF xbox drive could read gdroms...
2. i don't have a xbox, i never said that (so i've just talk about the possibilities it open, nothing else)
3. i also said that, in that case, the authors could proceed like bleemcast, it's an official emulator sold at low price... (it change lot of things, no need of mod chips,etc...)

[desertboy]

you should read the posts carefully...
1. i've just said that IF xbox drive could read gdroms...
2. i don't have a xbox, i never said that (so i've just talk about the possibilities it open, nothing else)
3. i also said that, in that case, the authors could proceed like bleemcast, it's an official emulator sold at low price... (it change lot of things, no need of mod chips,etc...)

I did read it carefully I wasn't having a go at your point I was really only picking up on the xbox-pc thing which was to enlighten people here to the state of the xbox emulation at the moment.

If the xbox could read gdroms you'd still need a pc to get the emulator onto the xbox in the first place. Maybe you could buy it on cd somewhere (Read car boot sale) but M$ did such a good job of locking down the xbox that no one has come up with a way to get the console to boot non M$ approved code without some mod to the box itself. (So no legitimate channel;s for it to be released through)

The DC had the advantage we didn't need a modchip to boot unofficial code. Sega weren't going to sue Bleemcast as Sega Vs. Codemasters has already proven out of court that no one company can bar you from developing for there platform. They can use copy protection to stop you though.

I have this bad habit of quoting a post and then talking about something else entirely.

If this is ever ported to the xbox it will be an illegal download (built with M$ own dev kit) and it won't be in the shops (Except maybe some Asian ones).


When it comes to emulators & xbox's I'm your man (Well oDD and Lantus are but never mind that).

[Nightmare]

If this is ever ported to the xbox it will be an illegal download (built with M$ own dev kit) and it won't be in the shops (Except maybe some Asian ones.

you know, things evolve... sega have financial difficulties... the xbox hadn't been sold as it should be... you know, some guys in difficult situations could find an agreement sometimes... (It's just a supposition... nothing else...) :saint:

[cooliscool]

I didnt post "surely", cause "surely" has a stronger connotation than its spanish counterpart, in terms of meaning. Yes, the exact translation would be "surely", but in spanish, "seguramente" is not as strong as "surely", its more of a "possibly". Its just a matter of language tradition more than actual graphic translation.

You are right about that second statement, I didnt read that. But mind you, its NOT an actual statement from a CHANKA dev. If this will be true, its MORE than awesome.

Err. Yes it is, in the video (which you should have looked at), that's Unai demonstrating Chankast and explaining how they're doing it.

[wonderxwlw]

does this means that this weekend we can run chankast V0.3 on a PC of 600mhz???

[Heinster]

what video??

[cooliscool]

http://www.talfi.net/e107/forum_viewtopic.php?3.5771.20 <-- videos and pics there of Unai demonstrationg Chankast, speaking about how they're doing it, and playing a bit of DOA2 in Chankast. :)

[Heinster]

thanks :)

Hmmmm Kewl to see how you can use different resolutions and all... But still the DOA2 he showed was painfully slow running.... Still awsome what they've done and keep doing :party: :happy:

[desertboy]

you know, things evolve... sega have financial difficulties... the xbox hadn't been sold as it should be... you know, some guys in difficult situations could find an agreement sometimes... (It's just a supposition... nothing else...) :saint:


While the xbox hasn't dominated the market like the PS2, it's sold ok in the states and europe it's just the Japanese territory where they've sold <1000000 units. I think while M$ wanted more they are probably happy with this as a start.

M$ where idiots they should have bought Rockstar instead of (Or maybe as well as) Rare, from a purely financial POV. How many people would have bought an xbox if Vice City had been Xbox exclusive or even San Andreas.

They treated the Japanese market wrong from the start and tried in Korea but made all the wrong moves.

On a plus point for them they did Xbox live very well and not making the xbox unchippable (which wouldn't have been that hard) so they could soak up the Asian Market (better to lose now to try and create a loyal customer base for the next one) was essential to it's success.

M$ would not be interested in releasing an emulator, hell it took them 2 years to release a flawed media player for it. (Luckily for people who chipped their box's we have XBMC a homebrew media player that kicks ass.) That should have been built into the dash!

[S0LAR]

the DOA2 he showed was painfully slow running....

they say DOA2 is the only game that's still running slowly.

[madprofessor]

they say DOA2 is the only game that's still running slowly.

i am sure that this is not at all bad news... :bouncy:
that means that all the other games have a speedup!

yeah doa2 rules but the dudes have all the time they need to speed that up too :P

[BlackNinja]

games running slown before grafics glitched
grafics perfect game gain more speed :D

[Heinster]

they say DOA2 is the only game that's still running slowly.

KEWL:) Sorry my spanish sux so I did not understand ;)