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tygra
May 31st, 2004, 10:29
hi,
the emu [chanka] runs fine on w2k.
the problem is that whenever i press the 'play' button, it always says: "Please insert game disc"

the iso it self is mounted with daemon tools (v3.46) on drive g:
i'v selected the drive from the 'options->configureDrives' (restarted emu) and pressed the init, still nothing.

i'v also tries to load the utopia bootcd iso, and i get the same result Please insert game disc"

the bios located in the same dir:
dc_bios.bin - 2mb
dc_flash.bin - 128kb
vms.bin - 128kb

mabye i am missing a file? ip.bin? anything?

XBOX
May 31st, 2004, 10:35
hi,
the emu [chanka] runs fine on w2k.
the problem is that whenever i press the 'play' button, it always says: "Please insert game disc"

the iso it self is mounted with daemon tools (v3.46) on drive g:
i'v selected the drive from the 'options->configureDrives' (restarted emu) and pressed the init, still nothing.

i'v also tries to load the utopia bootcd iso, and i get the same result Please insert game disc"

the bios located in the same dir:
dc_bios.bin - 2mb
dc_flash.bin - 128kb
vms.bin - 128kb

mabye i am missing a file? ip.bin? anything?

yeah you do need that IP.bin, otherwise dunt think it will werk..
:shaun:

tygra
May 31st, 2004, 11:15
yeah you do need that IP.bin, otherwise dunt think it will werk..
:shaun:

hi,

is there a generic ip.bin ? or needed to created for each cd?
and where i should put the ip.bin at? inside my iso?

XBOX
May 31st, 2004, 14:17
hi,

is there a generic ip.bin ? or needed to created for each cd?
and where i should put the ip.bin at? inside my iso?

THE IP.BIN is generic, you only need one for all the games.

search chanka boards you'll find it.

Kunohara
May 31st, 2004, 18:36
I am in the same situation as tygra. I did download the ip.bin file that you pointed to XBOX. I put the file in the same directory as the chanka one, and it didn't seem to do anything. I mounted the image on alcohol 120% (.cdi to be exact). I assume that you have to put it in the cd image itself. How would I go about doing that?

Arakon
May 31st, 2004, 19:26
I got the very same problem.. all games (selfboot) are seen as audio CDs and go to the audio player.. trying to boot them brings the "insert game" screen. I've tried images in alcohol, daemon tools, and actually burnt cds (which work on a real DC, btw), on 3 entirely different PCs, all with the same result.. the ONLY two games that do something are:

MDK2 - boots fine and crashes the emu after the intro
Ikaruga - boots the Sega logo, then keeps popping up IO Error (popup window) all the time till the emu freezes.

cooliscool
May 31st, 2004, 19:54
That's because of the way Chanka handles reading.. it's only fully supported in WinXP.. in other OSs, if it does work most games show up as Audio CDs.

Arakon
May 31st, 2004, 21:35
That's because of the way Chanka handles reading.. it's only fully supported in WinXP.. in other OSs, if it does work most games show up as Audio CDs.

urgh. I hope that gets fixed, cause I sure as heck am not gonna touch XP if my life depended on it.. and I'm quite sure there's no reason why it could only work in XP, but not 2k.

from what I've seen the emu is VERY impressive, it'd be sad if it would remain limited to XP.

tygra
May 31st, 2004, 21:42
indeed,
i won't touch XP as well..urgh :)
so it seems that in <2k all we get is a audio layer when we put our cds rather than booting it.

cooliscool
May 31st, 2004, 21:50
Why not? If your PC is powerful enough and XP is configured right (stripped of useless services, apps) then it's as or more efficient as Win2K.

[vEX]
May 31st, 2004, 22:19
The reason why it doesn't work with the 9x-family is because they don't use ASPI in Chankast. It'll be added eventually.

Ex0skelet0r
May 31st, 2004, 23:10
i have some games also which the emulator loads them like an audio cd..
use my tutorial to solve this problem.it works for me

exodust
May 31st, 2004, 23:36
The problem is the games are in vga mode and the ip.bin contains escencial info (1 parameter in ip.bin say if you can use a vga box), if this flag is off the game not start.

Arakon
June 1st, 2004, 02:57
@cooliscool: cause I've seen more winXP systems suicide than I care to count. cause I hate instabilities and cause I hate wasting resources.

@Ex0skelet0r: I just tried it and the same happens.. still audio cd.

Arakon
June 1st, 2004, 09:53
ok, I found a way to make it boot:

use Exo's selfboot kit, but throw a 698 kb bit audio.wav into the selfboot folder.. that way it will burn TWO audio tracks before the data, for some reason it starts booting then. however, sonic 2 resets to the menu after the echelon intro, and soul calibur gives me lots of IO errors.. so I'm not sure if there's a prob with that method.. trying VT2 now.

hazard
June 1st, 2004, 14:19
indeed,
i won't touch XP as well..urgh :)
so it seems that in <2k all we get is a audio layer when we put our cds rather than booting it.

Reminds me of when I refused steadfast to install Windows 95, when I loved DOS :unsure:

kokoko3k
June 1st, 2004, 15:43
hi,
the emu [chanka] runs fine on w2k.
the problem is that whenever i press the 'play' button, it always says: "Please insert game disc"

the iso it self is mounted with daemon tools (v3.46) on drive g:
i'v selected the drive from the 'options->configureDrives' (restarted emu) and pressed the init, still nothing.

i'v also tries to load the utopia bootcd iso, and i get the same result Please insert game disc"

the bios located in the same dir:
dc_bios.bin - 2mb
dc_flash.bin - 128kb
vms.bin - 128kb

mabye i am missing a file? ip.bin? anything?

I had the same problem, only ikaruga booted, but the day after i changed my aspi layer from the nero ones to the adapetc (they're free now, download them).
Also, i noticed that sometimes the problem lies in my cdrom, so when i insert a cdrom i always press the refresh button in isobuster to force my win2k read all the sessions :)

that's all, should work.

Still i can't boot utopia because the emulator pops a message saying something about a cable... but 90% of the games i tried (echelon or kalisto) works YUPPIIIIII

tygra
June 1st, 2004, 17:59
i'v tested it under winxp and it works well, (some iso stuck on the sega logo, but i will try other games now)

Goras
June 1st, 2004, 22:04
kokoko3k:

Did you use this version of aspi drivers: 4.71.2?
Are you using the games from your CDROM or mounting them? If you are mounting them, what program are you using to mount them?

Davv13
June 2nd, 2004, 01:37
I used alcohol120% to mount image and I'm playing SF3 third strike.

machspeed
June 2nd, 2004, 10:27
this IP.BIN file, is it a file you need to put in the chanka folder? or does chanka read an actual game disk in my cd drive?

Arakon
June 2nd, 2004, 10:55
the IP.bin isn't needed, and original game discs can't be read by normal cd/dvd drives.

Flash
June 2nd, 2004, 15:29
Reminds me of when I refused steadfast to install Windows 95, when I loved DOS :unsure:

Win9x is DOS based, you can always say "bootgui=0" and make boot menu.

And XP...
1) even without any useless services it's still eats too much memory.
2) 1.5Gb of disk space and still the same as 2K.
3) New w0rmz - just connect to internet and you'll get pwned. No such stuff in 9x

Doc_Terence
June 2nd, 2004, 18:24
Is there a working solution for getting Chanka
to run on Win2k ?? There is described a lot of measures
in this thread, but i wanna know what exactly you have to to ..

Greetz
Doc_T

rippon
June 2nd, 2004, 19:43
The Windows 2000 issue was killing me, so I installed Windows 2003 Server and 'hax0red' it to run like a workstation, and hot damn, JGR runs nice. Just so you know, Rez appeared to work just fine in Windows 2000, so if you're desperate to play SOMETHING, thats a good option.

Anyway, now I'm gonna boot back into Windows 2000 and wait for the next version of Chankast that supports Windows 2000 better, because its really not worth THIS much trouble :P

DuDe
June 2nd, 2004, 19:51
3) New w0rmz - just connect to internet and you'll get pwned. No such stuff in 9x
Not if you regularly update it.

Doc_Terence
June 3rd, 2004, 06:39
OK, so itīs better to wait..what kind of tweaking have you done to turn
W2003 server to workstation ? Is it worth it as an alternative to W2k ??

Now i could start Phantasy Star Online with NTSC Bios on W2k,
get into the Menu, then it says that thereīs no memory card..


Greetz
Doc_T

kokoko3k
June 3rd, 2004, 12:36
kokoko3k:

Did you use this version of aspi drivers: 4.71.2?
Are you using the games from your CDROM or mounting them? If you are mounting them, what program are you using to mount them?


The version is correct.
I run games right from my cdrom. Note that is important to use isobuster or something like it to FORCE windows to recognise all the session written in the CD (1 - insert the cd game, 2 - hit REFRESH in isobuster, 3- wait for it to display the cd structure, 4 - hit INIT in chankast).

I tried to use Daemon tools to mount some images, but often chankast pop up an "io error" message.

kokoko3k
June 3rd, 2004, 15:12
OK, so itīs better to wait..what kind of tweaking have you done to turn
W2003 server to workstation ? Is it worth it as an alternative to W2k ??

Now i could start Phantasy Star Online with NTSC Bios on W2k,
get into the Menu, then it says that thereīs no memory card..


Greetz
Doc_T


Win2k3 server turned to Workstation = WINXP with a lot of unuseful services.
I tried it in the past and i got the XP logo waiting for the SO to load.
The utility which does the trick is named NTSWITCH, and YES, you can apply it to turn XP in 2k3 Server, 2k in 2000 server and Vice-versa.
That's the way Microsoft get money :) Same SO system, some services more, a different name and a lot of cash to pay more :)

PS: NTSWITCH is not legal

rippon
June 3rd, 2004, 17:02
Really? I never heard of that NTSWITCH program. I made a day out of it, futzin' with all the various settings. Its really not that hard, you just have to start audio services, enable graphics acceleration, install Firefox because IE is locked down (which you could unlock, but I figured Firefox was easier to install). Anyway, I switched it over by hand, and it was actually quite fun and educational about Windows. Here's a website that can help you:

http://www.msfn.org/win2k3/

The only reason I gave up is because I didn't feel like reinstalling Photoshop, Microsoft Visual Studio, MS Office, Maya, all my cellphone drivers, my GBA devkit, etc, etc, etc. I have actual work to do too, ya know? :P If I wasn't using this computer for legit work, I'd still be tinkering with 2k3. But right now its just a risk, and a risk for the purposes of playing games for a system I already own :P But it was AMAZING to see Chankast in action.

bleeder
June 9th, 2004, 10:36
If the backup has two audio tracks if I put it in a cd player will it have 2?