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SquareSoft0
January 13th, 2002, 03:42
This game is unplayable, I'm using PJ 64 1.4. I get an error saying
"Unhandled R4300i Op Code at: 150AD770 system call
Stoping Emulation!"
My CPU stats are:
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1.0 GHz
Video: 800x600 in 32-Bit Color, NVIDIA GeForce2 MX (Gateway - English) Ver. 4.0
System: Windows ME

All of the other games I have work perfectly...

ComanderBlair
January 13th, 2002, 04:26
Actually this can't be, coz i got the (U) and (E) Roms of conker, and they work quite good.


Check your rom with GoodN64, maybe the conker Rom is corrupt.

signed,

ComanderBlair

P.S. After checking with GoodN64 watch out for the (!). This one indicates that's a good rom.

TheLostMarioBro
January 13th, 2002, 07:20
Yea, its most likely a bad rom

SquareSoft0
January 14th, 2002, 01:38
Checked it; it's OK...
Got a new one from a different site; still not working...
Kupo...

Kief Sutherland
January 14th, 2002, 15:41
It's best not to download any roms. If you can manufacture your own you can be sure to get a working rom. Downloading them is illegal, and maybe if this is what you have done, you deserve the consequences. I have a Dr. V 64 and have only used it to back up games that I own, which I thought was the purpose of emulation. Maybe all that has changed though. kief

SquareSoft0
January 14th, 2002, 16:45
ahhhhhhhh ignorance is so entertaining...... roms aren't illegal IF: You own the actual game, you delete within 24 hours, or if you are a debugger using them for education, I own it so I could download it! The whole point of downloading roms is to have a backup copy of your game if you don't have an actual emulator machine. Plus I used a friends machine for it yet the rom still doesn't work with PJ 64.

Where are you Jfletcher? 'cmon quire boy!

Glurak
January 14th, 2002, 17:34
the 24hour rule isn't existant (it's not legal to have a rom if u don't own the original game)

hmmm
January 14th, 2002, 18:36
the R4300i refers to the core. Basically, if youre sure you DEFINITELY got a good rom (Conker's Bad Fur Day (U) [!].z64), u aint been fiddling wit the settings have you? try redownloading pj64, and out it in a new folder.

My CFD (its a bad fur DAY), works PERFECTLY, so where does the error come?

Also, do other people experience popup in the game? In RGB software mode it goes away but its too slowwwww. (i have lataest drivers etctera, gerforce ddr)

sk8bloke22
January 14th, 2002, 18:49
in the settings option, select 'disable register caching' . if that doesnt help, use the interpreter.

ComanderBlair
January 14th, 2002, 23:32
could be that your Advanced settings under viedeo-settings aren't set properly.

No Checkbox have to be checked (just for insurance, as it doesn't matter alot if they are *GG*)

and make sure, Frame Buffer Emulation is "none".

That'll do, i think.

I tried it once to set it to "Emulate Clear" for conker, and it freezed.

so check this :)

signed,

ComanderBlair

SquareSoft0
January 15th, 2002, 02:17
Nope, still not working...... wonder what's up?

Doomulation
January 15th, 2002, 13:27
Originally posted by Kief Sutherland
It's best not to download any roms. If you can manufacture your own you can be sure to get a working rom. Downloading them is illegal, and maybe if this is what you have done, you deserve the consequences. I have a Dr. V 64 and have only used it to back up games that I own, which I thought was the purpose of emulation. Maybe all that has changed though. kief
LOL.
It's best not to download any illegal roms? All the roms are ILLEGAL to download! But, ffs, what else is he using Project64 for? Just having it installed 'cuz it's fun?

Bah! For what I know, it's even illegal to download roms, even if u own them. And there is no 24-hours rule.

Deserving the consequences... LOL! :D

rtb
January 15th, 2002, 14:36
Originally posted by Kief Sutherland
It's best not to download any roms. If you can manufacture your own you can be sure to get a working rom. Downloading them is illegal, and maybe if this is what you have done, you deserve the consequences. I have a Dr. V 64 and have only used it to back up games that I own, which I thought was the purpose of emulation. Maybe all that has changed though. kief

there are rules(laws in this case) that are meant to be broken, this is one ;)

and if the 24h rule existed, it wouldn't matter.

and squaresoft0, i think it could be win me.

thank god i have the good rom with a [!], it works perfectly without ever having to change an option :)

EdgeBlade
January 15th, 2002, 15:50
No 24 hour rule??? How do you know? (Just curious, not disbeleving) The 24 hour thing hold true for mp3s right?

The point of emulation chages for each person I think. The main purpose is to make a program that can do eveything the real thing can do. The reason for having an emulator is diffrent depending who your talking to.

My purpose of having emulators is so I can play games I don't own and don't want to buy on my computer. Those "true to the scene" ppl probly wouldn't like me very much. :colgate:

The way I've heard it, you can make backup copies of something as long as the lisensce dosn't specificly say you can't. Or it could be that it has to specificaly say you can.

Kief Sutherland - Not eveyone can afford a Dr. V 64, and many ppl here aren't 18 and above so thay can't buy things off the internet. If you only wan't to play games you own that fine. I don't think many ppl see the purpose of emulation to have backups. That would be the purpose of the Dr. V 64

Anyways, I'm off to school. My 3rd term start today and I must get there a litty early to pick up my heavy $~50 books...

rtb
January 15th, 2002, 16:31
Originally posted by EdgeBlade
No 24 hour rule??? How do you know? (Just curious, not disbeleving) The 24 hour thing hold true for mp3s right?

The point of emulation chages for each person I think. The main purpose is to make a program that can do eveything the real thing can do. The reason for having an emulator is diffrent depending who your talking to.

My purpose of having emulators is so I can play games I don't own and don't want to buy on my computer. Those "true to the scene" ppl probly wouldn't like me very much. :colgate:

The way I've heard it, you can make backup copies of something as long as the lisensce dosn't specificly say you can't. Or it could be that it has to specificaly say you can.

Kief Sutherland - Not eveyone can afford a Dr. V 64, and many ppl here aren't 18 and above so thay can't buy things off the internet. If you only wan't to play games you own that fine. I don't think many ppl see the purpose of emulation to have backups. That would be the purpose of the Dr. V 64

Anyways, I'm off to school. My 3rd term start today and I must get there a litty early to pick up my heavy $~50 books...

i'm definatly not sure about the 24h rule, it could exist for both or not.

i play with emulators cuz i can't afford them and i wouldn't buy them anyway.

SquareSoft0
January 15th, 2002, 16:46
You misunderstood me... You only have to have one of the three terms to download a rom. 1)Own it 2)Delete it within 24 hours 3)Use it for education.
If you own the game, you own the rom. If you don't own it you must go with either 2 or 3. Plus there is no way for people to actully check if you own the game so who gives a crap if you don't own it ;)

Another thing I don't understand is the speed problem people have with games, all of my roms for N64 run full speed and faster if I turn off the limiter. And I only have 64MB RAM and 1GHZ. My friend has 256MB RAM and 1.7GHZ and his game's speed sucks.

zorbid
January 15th, 2002, 17:16
In some counties(can't remember which, but I think it's in the US), even backing up cartdriges is illegal!!!! The laws about private backups doesn't apply to this format!!! I can't tell you the source, but I think it comes from a link in the Zilmar'emu book.

Glurak
January 15th, 2002, 17:42
Umm forgot which company that was but that company that sells hotrod joysticks, they sell roms together with the joystick (on a cd)
So roms are legal. Now if you download them, create them yourself or buy them from the company that made the games doesn't matter.


But if you don't own the game you may never ever download a rom without prior written permision from the company (<--- crap ;))
Of course everyone does that but... ;)

zorbid
January 15th, 2002, 19:41
Read this:

http://www.emuhq.com/emufaq/mod2_pt2.shtml

(It was just as I told it, to be found in the links of Zil's emubook)

It's long so here are the big ideas.

In the US, rom dumping is illegal since 1998, when the original format of the rom was a cartdrige. Bios dumping, rom patching are illegal as well.

pj64er
January 15th, 2002, 21:26
Originally posted by SquareSoft0
You misunderstood me... You only have to have one of the three terms to download a rom. 1)Own it 2)Delete it within 24 hours 3)Use it for education.
If you own the game, you own the rom. If you don't own it you must go with either 2 or 3. Plus there is no way for people to actully check if you own the game so who gives a crap if you don't own it ;)

24hr thing is completely made up. There is no question. Why do u even believe it, its not even logical. What would anyone gain if someone owned a copy of software, and deleted it in 24hrs? the only logical terms are ur #1 and 3.

and dont be so sure ppl cant find out. my friend had roms of the games that i owned. To make a long story short, he ended up coughing up dough for quite a few companies...

SquareSoft0
January 15th, 2002, 22:41
That link was a bunch of crap. Roms aren't illegal. I forgot which site, but it was the official internet security site that deletes illegal internet content. The say that what I said was true, except the 24Hr rule. I heard #2 from the rom sites I download from. They also say that some forms of Warez are legal, but VERY VERY VERY few. Like abonware and home made games and apps, but even alot of the home made stuff is illegal.
So......
ROMS AREN'T ILLEGAL!!!.......X__X.......Kupo!

zorbid
January 16th, 2002, 22:01
Here's the intresting part.

Any unauthorized copy of a computer program, regardless of the original or resultant media, can be considered a counterfeit copy under federal law. (US 15 CFR 1127, US 18 CFR 1030). The practice of dumping the videogame cartridges of a home videogame system by the average user is not justified under the backup proviso of copyright law (Atari v. JS&A Group, 1983), and this restriction also covers arcade videogames and any other ROM-derived formats as well (Tandy v. Personal Micro Computer, 1981). The one exception for ROM dumping is granted solely to bonafide developers and their associates (Sega v. Accolade and Nintendo v. Atari, 1992), with any resultant "intermediate copies" having exactly the same protections and restrictions as if they were the originals themselves. You, as the average user, do not have the right to dump a piece of computer code stored in ROM format for use with an emulator, as this is not considered to be justifiable as an operational adaptation due to the necessary change in media - all other forms of adaptation, including adaptation for use with an emulator, must be authorized by the copyright owner (US 17 CFR 106). You cannot use "fair use" to justify ROM dumping, as the courts have denied this venue to the average user due to the illegal nature of the resultant copies (Sega v. MAPHIA, 1994). You may not obtain intermediate copies from a developer for your personal use, as this voids the developer's protections under case law (Sega v. Accolade, 1992). As an additional note, current EULA language by practically all computer program developers utilizing some form of permanent storage media specifically forbids the practice of dumping their code from its original media, and they are justified in doing so under federal contract law (ProCD v. Ziedenberg, 1996). Any unauthorized "ROM" in the possession of the average user is considered to be at best an infringing copy of the program in question (MAI v. Peak, 1993) and at worst a counterfeit copy (US 15 CFR 1127, US 18 CFR 1030). In short, the average user may not own, obtain, use, or distribute any kind of "ROM" without the authorization of its copyright owner.

Abandonware is not legal, it's tolerated. The owning copyright companies own it for a long time. (reference to Sierra Online, or the Bitmap Brothers)
And freeware is not warez. (e.g.: your favorite emus).

cooliscool
January 17th, 2002, 09:16
the answer to your cbfd bug : turn of register caching :)

cooliscool
January 17th, 2002, 09:19
shut the F*** up "keif" or "kweef"

EdgeBlade
January 17th, 2002, 19:52
cooliscoo: Just because Kief wants to follow the law is no reason to tell him to shut up. Nor are your bleeped out words needed on these boards.

SquareSoft0
January 17th, 2002, 23:36
I knew EdgeBlade was on a pink sword!

EdgeBlade
January 18th, 2002, 02:38
I assure you, if I was on a sword there would be no pink at all.

SquareSoft0
January 18th, 2002, 02:57
I said that because you're backing up a little whiner

Pikkon
January 18th, 2002, 05:05
Ok, First of all there is NO 24 hour rule.
Roms are illeagle if you do not own the actual cartidge...BUT WHO CARES!!!!
Nintendo of America says that it is illeagle to let your friends borrow your actuall game cartidges over night. But i can say for most people who use a n64 emulator really dont care about that kind of thing.:D

And so what is the whole point of emulation?? if not to play games you cant afford or you do not want to buy yourself, just to have a d@nm back up of your game... That is just plain nonsense!:D

:D Pikkon:D

Gugaman
January 18th, 2002, 08:00
why u guys keep discussing about 24h rule? it doesnt f***** matter...
ppl will download roms anyway.... if everyone had money there would be no piracy.... but these damn things cost too f****** much.
i have NO registered/original program at all... and i wont have one until i have nowhere else to spend my money.

Pikkon
January 18th, 2002, 08:12
Well it looks like i am not the only 1 who thinks that:D

gokuss4
January 18th, 2002, 09:12
hey could it be windows me? THAT OS SUCKS ASS!!!

EdgeBlade
January 18th, 2002, 20:32
I pir8 lots, but I try to purchace the things I find that I feel are worth my money. And I try to support my favorit companys. But with the 64? No way. If I still owned the system then it'd be diffrent, but no way am I gonna go buy a 64 _again_ so I'll just be playing them on my computer. :colgate:

rtb
January 18th, 2002, 22:49
Originally posted by gokuss4
hey could it be windows me? THAT OS SUCKS ASS!!!
i already said that. except that it sux.

Martin
January 19th, 2002, 00:32
Do you mind using some mature language?

Doomulation
January 19th, 2002, 02:27
Originally posted by Martin
Do you mind using some mature language?
Lol.
And I think it's going a little off-topic, too.
It was the problem with CFB, remember?

SquareSoft0
January 19th, 2002, 05:02
Thank you Doomulation! Back to the bug, and Windows ME is the same thing as 95 and 98. (I can't tell much of a difference)
That typo "BFG" is annoying, I can't change it either...

Doomulation
January 19th, 2002, 05:30
Originally posted by SquareSoft0
Thank you Doomulation! Back to the bug, and Windows ME is the same thing as 95 and 98. (I can't tell much of a difference)
That typo "BFG" is annoying, I can't change it either...
Bah! It was going off-topic from the problem.
And Windows ME is buggier and 95/98.
And thirdly, it's the video card, that's all I can tell. I know no solution.

64ultramaniac
January 19th, 2002, 06:16
WOW! An attack from a bunch of lamers,and unfortunately nobody
does something about it.Certainly this forum has changed a lot.Oh
my god where are you Smiff?

SquareSoft0
January 19th, 2002, 07:36
HOW is Windows ME buggier? I haven't had ANY glitches from Windows. You probably haven't even used it.

NOW, back to the glitch please?

64ultramaniac
January 19th, 2002, 07:53
You probably fu**** up the default settings as usually people do and then whining for troubles in PJ64.Well if you want to play it so much stop being a lamer and buy it.Simple eh?

SquareSoft0
January 19th, 2002, 07:55
Wow, you ARE a dumbass, thank you for proving it. I didn't change ANYTHING Mr. DumbAss.

RadeonUser
January 19th, 2002, 08:06
Stop the flaming guys. I don't care who started what, just keep it civil.

64ultramaniac
January 19th, 2002, 08:28
Well have you read the whole topic?Kief just said his opinion(which happens to be right,no matter if someone likes it or not)and these lamers started a "word" attack on him with no reason.Don't you think that someone must do something about it,like shut'em up by closing the topic?Just a question.Especially for the guy above(all his posts so far are offending)I think it should go as far as banning,but that's not my job to do ofcource.

Pikkon
January 19th, 2002, 08:33
[64ultramaniac] Well have you read the whole topic?Kief just said his opinion(which happens to be right,no matter if someone likes it or not)and these lamers started a "word" attack on him with no reason.Don't you think that someone must do something about it,like shut'em up by closing the topic?Just a question.Especially for the guy above(all his posts so far are offending)I think it should go as far as banning,but that's not my job to do ofcource.[64ultramaniac]

Hey i didnt mean any thing offensive by what i stated earlier but i do think that something should be done to that guy. :D

:D Pikkon :D

EdgeBlade
January 19th, 2002, 10:00
There were onlt 2 lamers here, and they know who they are :D

And I never had any problems with WinME either. But _MANY_ ppl have, that's why is buggier.

So, what was the topic again? ;)

ILR
January 19th, 2002, 10:10
That rom converted thing that was mentioned earlier.. how much is it? If it costs more than $10 then no body will bother to buy one. They'd rather search for hours on the internet than get one themselves.

SquareSoft0
January 20th, 2002, 00:00
"Search for hours?"
I just go to *removed by mod* . They have every rom for about 24 systems (Except 3 roms, they are only missing THREE roms) That wasn't an add either mods. PLEASE just go back to the topic?

yogaman
January 20th, 2002, 02:34
Originally posted by SquareSoft0
"Search for hours?"
I just go to *removed by mod* . They have every rom for about 24 systems (Except 3 roms, they are only missing THREE roms) That wasn't an add either mods. PLEASE just go back to the topic?

That's bad,bad,bad,bad ...... NO ROM REQUESTS ALLOWED! STICK TO IT!

Smiff
January 20th, 2002, 02:37
am i have to go and ban somebody on my first day back :/

SquareSoft0
January 20th, 2002, 06:40
Nobody requested a rom, I simply said where I go. PLEASE, I'm begging, PLEASE go back to the topic?

pj64er
January 20th, 2002, 19:37
Originally posted by SquareSoft0
That link was a bunch of crap. Roms aren't illegal. I forgot which site, but it was the official internet security site that deletes illegal internet content. The say that what I said was true, except the 24Hr rule. I heard #2 from the rom sites I download from. They also say that some forms of Warez are legal, but VERY VERY VERY few. Like abonware and home made games and apps, but even alot of the home made stuff is illegal.
So......
ROMS AREN'T ILLEGAL!!!.......X__X.......Kupo!

i didnt follow this thread for a while, but this post gave me quite a laff. this guy has no idea what hes talking about:

1. who told u there was an 'official security site which deletes illegal internet content'? the funny thing is u believed it!

2. those few lines (ie dont blame us, delete in 24hrs) DO NOT protect the rom sites, nevermind u, from legal action.

3. everything else u said just proves that u hav no idea what warez are. u probably think ur downloading warez from downloads.com!

SquareSoft0
January 21st, 2002, 01:43
There IS a securety site, I KNOW what warez is, SOME (Not much) of warez is legal. I didn't say there was a 24 hour rule, I said I saw that rule at the web-sites I go to! You can't talk like that without reading trough the whole thread, you even admitted not reading it all. Now PLEASE go back on topic? "CBFD unplayable for me."

pj64er
January 21st, 2002, 08:40
Originally posted by SquareSoft0
There IS a securety site, I KNOW what warez is, SOME (Not much) of warez is legal. I didn't say there was a 24 hour rule, I said I saw that rule at the web-sites I go to! You can't talk like that without reading trough the whole thread, you even admitted not reading it all. Now PLEASE go back on topic? "CBFD unplayable for me."

i did read the whole thread, i just stopped following it for a while, then came back that day and read the whole thing. i gotta tell ya, u brought the wrath upon urself.

just to clear things up for u: there is no official security site responsible for deleting illegal content. if such a thing exists, they are failing specatcularly. and no, no warez is legal (u should know this if u know the definition of 'warez').

back to topic, r u sure u downloaded a good version of pj64? whered u get it? it may be messed up...

SquareSoft0
January 21st, 2002, 08:49
Those Q's were answered earlier in the thread, I thought you read it all! Warez: "A manufactured product, similar to the original." If it's too similar, (exactly), then it's illegal, if it's remote enough then it's legal. Home-made games are a part of warez. That securety site is the "internet police," and yes, they ARE doing a very bad job. Who do you think deletes those illegal sites though? Now back to the topic, no more warez, no more rom rules, no more BLATENT FLAMING.....

Squaresoft74
January 21st, 2002, 09:59
Ce que ça peux me gonfler des mecs comme Squaresoft0 qui pense toujours tout savoir mieux que tout le monde et qui se permettent de prendre les gens de haut alors qu ils n ont rien dans la tete.
Si t es si malin tu trouveras bien la réponse a ton problème à "Conker" tout seul.
Il doit bien y avoir un cerveau quelque part dans ta tete, alors cherches le,trouves le et sert toi en pour une fois!!!!!
This is all i have to say about this :alien:

SquareSoft0
January 21st, 2002, 10:19
The T.O.S. violations aren't narrowed down to English....

pj64er
January 21st, 2002, 22:16
Originally posted by SquareSoft0
Those Q's were answered earlier in the thread, I thought you read it all! Warez: "A manufactured product, similar to the original." If it's too similar, (exactly), then it's illegal, if it's remote enough then it's legal. Home-made games are a part of warez. That securety site is the "internet police," and yes, they ARE doing a very bad job. Who do you think deletes those illegal sites though? Now back to the topic, no more warez, no more rom rules, no more BLATENT FLAMING.....

i did read it all, u never stated if ur copy of pj64 is a good one or not.

calm down, i never 'blatently' flame u.

ill clear things up for u one final time:

warez - home-made software is not warez, they are just home-made software. the word warez imply commercial(ppl make this to sell it... i cant think of a better word) software that are hacked into, and has its protection removed, and therefore can be distributed to many many ppl.

'official internet police' - no such thing. whoever told u, is trying to scare u. Certain legal sites r taken down because companies r threatening them with the law (look at emutalk, we avoid mentioning roms because we do not want nintendo suing us).
i am aware of FBI and such trying to take down some warez sites but they are not 'official internet police'. they are just plain old FBI (and such) with no extra power over the internet.

RJA
January 21st, 2002, 23:02
:pissed: Shut the hell up about emulation being illegal!!!!!

ROMs are legal. !!!!!!



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Teamz
January 21st, 2002, 23:16
Where's this thread going? ..

Smiff
January 21st, 2002, 23:19
nowhere. this is EmuTalk's gayest thread ever.