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alessmz
March 26th, 2003, 14:30
there are a few games very hard 2 emulate, amongst these we have RE2 with movies and everything, Banghaio, World driver championship and a few other which even pj15 fails 2 deliver or emulate properly.

the one i'm looking for is KIG.

What i got with Nemu, standard config, is an almost 60fps with both characters and fireball all black (fireballs are black AND square shaped )

my spec are : xp1700+, Radeon AIW 8500, 512mb DDR

i got black characters also on PJ64 1.5, till 1.5b1 grahpics was ok, with the 10fps pj problem everybody knows....

if someone has achived in emulate this game prpoperly, or any of the other games i've named before, please post a solution.....

alessmz
March 26th, 2003, 17:58
seems everyone is keen on trying 2 enjoy a 15fps mariokart experience with kaillera instead of playing something different, it's not a secret n64 emulation hasn't got any further from pj64 1.5 six months ago.....

Doomulation
March 26th, 2003, 18:05
Wtf! It has! Glide64 is making unviewable gfx visible now! Rice is working on his plugin which is making support for low-end cards and is, too, progressing!

Don't gimme that! :getlost:

alessmz
March 26th, 2003, 18:54
ok, have your recent and "progressing" emulators produced a decent emulation of:

-Resident Evil ( with MOVIES , FIXED MUSIC and COLLISION )
-Bangaioh ( GRAPHICS )
-Cruis 'n USA ( GRAPHICS and SPEED )
-Goldeneye ( SPEED )
-Hydro Thunder ( MUSIC and FX )
-Mario Tennis ( FIXED GRAPHICS )
-World Driver Championship ( EVERYTHING )
-Killer Instinct Gold ( GRAPHICS/SPEED )

and generally anything that Jabo hasn't reach with Pj 64 1.5 emulation?

and wtf?? if you can find at least one of the named games fixed with your recent updates i'm probably wrong, otherwise think again before writing such a superficial reply.

Clements
March 26th, 2003, 19:17
Pilotwings shadow is fixed with Rice's Daedalus 4.5.0
Camspy lens effect is in place with TR64 OpenGL 0.84
Mario 64 dissolve effect works in glNintendo64()


...as well as both glNintendo64() and Rice's Daedalus now supporting 2XSAI textures...

The list of progress goes on... have you been asleep? :happy:

I think your asking a bit too much too soon...

Anyway, I get fullspeed with Goldeneye throughout!

Doomulation
March 26th, 2003, 19:17
-Mario Tennis ( FIXED GRAPHICS )
WRONG! Use force normal blending and this game runs pretty smooth!

And those games being worked on! Maybe someone will in time! But for now they're aiming on other games!
So don't tell me it isn't progressing because it is! :getlost:

Doomulation
March 26th, 2003, 19:22
-Cruis 'n USA ( GRAPHICS and SPEED )
Fully playable with glide64.


-Goldeneye ( SPEED )
Fully playable with 1964.


-Mario Tennis ( FIXED GRAPHICS )
As stated before, works.


and generally anything that Jabo hasn't reach with Pj 64 1.5 emulation?
Plugins has surpassed jabo's in some areas.

So that's it. Don't gimme it hasn't progressed. :doh:

jvolel
March 26th, 2003, 19:29
yeah maaaan! what they said ^ and ive had a 50 -60 fps match or mario kart online. Like ive said to someone before if your comp/connection sucks then every 3d emu (that goes online) will suck online.

LazerTag
March 26th, 2003, 20:24
I usually just sit on the sidelines during posts like this and wait to see who is right or wrong, but this one was to hard to pass up.

sounds like Clements, Doomulation, and Jvolel, just thunked alessmz on the head with some "progress" :D Can I play too?

Along with all the other items they mentioned, don't forget the playfeild in Dr. Mario is now fully visable with Rice's plugin when the frame buffer is set to "Copy & Back".

sounds like you alessmz need to "think again before writing such a superficial post"

Not a flame, just my humble opinion

alessmz
March 26th, 2003, 22:34
these babies like 2 cut-copy every word of your post, but lets'say just a couple of things:

When i speak about IMPORTANT IMPROVEMENTS, i mean a least 3-4 HARD 2 EMULATE games, like the ones i have listed before, in perfect pj fashion ( remember, Banjo Tooie, Perfect Dark , DK64 , never-before-emulated titles, these ARE REAL IMPROVEMENTS, pj did that, the other emus came LATER) and seen what u have catch as example, if the great Jabo won't took again the control of the situation, we'll be still talking about "wow, lens flare...." for the next 2 years, without REAL core emulation improvements ( that means, if u still haven't understood, NEW and GREAT games emulated, like the ones i have listed )

I know that at this point n64 emulation is really hard 2 improve, i am happy enough with the today emulation level, but when someone calls miracle for some plugin fixes, like "Pilotwings shadow is fixed " or , regarding Mario tennis "Use force normal blending and this game runs pretty smooth" ( btw, effects are still messed up, it's not a matter of speed ), then i'm a bit upset about that.

last but not least, a quick msg 2 LazerTag: seen the stupidity level of you "opinion", i suggest u 2 quickly return on the sidelines u came from ( or sewer,dunno) , otherwise u might be kicked right in ur head ( or ass, it's up 2 u 2 distinguish), in any case , not a flame, just flame yourself:D

LazerTag
March 26th, 2003, 23:28
Hey no reason to get snoty about this. My remarks were simply wisecracks based on what you already said. Part of the fun of Internet forums. Just because you were the one having a few peeps laugh at you is no reason to make this something it is not.

And just because the games you listed have not been improved upon much (if at all) doesn't make the other advancements in different games no less important. BTW, I get full speed in GoldenEye as well. So not sure why that one is on your list?

pj64er
March 26th, 2003, 23:50
just ignore the alessmz d00d, he been around before, and i guess he hasnt changed. And my answer for your posts has to be the standard "fine, why dont you go make a plugin that will beat jabo's"

and another hint, alessmz, flaming the current efforts wont speed up development...AT ALL.

DiaBlo6662
March 27th, 2003, 00:26
Originally posted by alessmz
these babies like 2 cut-copy every word of your post, but lets'say just a couple of things:

When i speak about IMPORTANT IMPROVEMENTS, i mean a least 3-4 HARD 2 EMULATE games, like the ones i have listed before, in perfect pj fashion ( remember, Banjo Tooie, Perfect Dark , DK64 , never-before-emulated titles, these ARE REAL IMPROVEMENTS, pj did that, the other emus came LATER) and seen what u have catch as example, if the great Jabo won't took again the control of the situation, we'll be still talking about "wow, lens flare...." for the next 2 years, without REAL core emulation improvements ( that means, if u still haven't understood, NEW and GREAT games emulated, like the ones i have listed )

I know that at this point n64 emulation is really hard 2 improve, i am happy enough with the today emulation level, but when someone calls miracle for some plugin fixes, like "Pilotwings shadow is fixed " or , regarding Mario tennis "Use force normal blending and this game runs pretty smooth" ( btw, effects are still messed up, it's not a matter of speed ), then i'm a bit upset about that.

last but not least, a quick msg 2 LazerTag: seen the stupidity level of you "opinion", i suggest u 2 quickly return on the sidelines u came from ( or sewer,dunno) , otherwise u might be kicked right in ur head ( or ass, it's up 2 u 2 distinguish), in any case , not a flame, just flame yourself:D

you are not alone alessm.. (sounds like michael jackson song :P) i can agree with you..

i can admit plugin devel ppl is working hard as they can.. jabo was/is a great programmer .. he know a lot more i think, than current plugin makers..


but anyways, rice/and the nemu team are doing a good job to n64 emulation lets give em more time to judge...

alessmz
March 27th, 2003, 01:47
regarding n64 emulation, i've already expressed my opinion about its situation, pointing how i'm against over-excitement about good, but partially achieved n64 emulation target, being happy anyway with Rice work and everyone else involved in .

On the other hand, just before i could post a definitive F... U addressed 2 LazerTag, which "sit on the sidelines , shoot a couple of STUPID post, then return 2 its garbage" (btw, the only full speed u can reach is in going 2 hell, u f..ing moroon), comes from Superior Kingdom of Stupidity the One , the King, the Only (burp) pj64err(oneally generated gay)!: with sentences like "just ignore the alessmz d00d" and "he been around before, and i guess he hasnt changed" , that patetic idiot , of couse without having MINIMALLY understood the clear meaning of my words, finally show 2 the entire world how deeper can stupidity fall down, so congratulation:
the world greatest FUCK U PERMANENT IDIOT is yours, no question!:D :D :D

Greevy
March 27th, 2003, 04:16
Oh god, alessmz you really f*cking s*ck man.

I think that we never had so much development on the video plugins side and you're complaining ?

icepir8, Rice, Orkin and everyone else who's got a plugin is working his ass off trying to implement new things that we never saw before and you've got the guts to say that these weren't major breakthru's ?

With a f*ckhead like you around, no wonder why those "REAL Core emulation improvements" won't happen.

Anyway, who the f*ck are you to say that an improvement isn't a "MAJOR IMPROVEMENT" ? Do you know if it did take less or much time/work to get working than something else ? No, you don't.

Now get lost.

And DiaBlo6662..

but anyways, rice/and the nemu team are doing a good job to n64 emulation lets give em more time to judge...

Man, you're talking of them like they are some f*cking robots working their ass off for you. And you don't have the right to judge their work, 'cause it's a privilege and not a right to use what they're coding.

/RANT MODE OFF.

Doomulation
March 27th, 2003, 10:44
I agree. And I think this is going nowhere, too.
And alessmz, get your head out of your ass. If you start insulting members and do idiotic comments you'll get banned.
Yes, I know you'll do a nitty-witty comment on this, too, but i don't care. Start understanding!

sk8bloke22
March 27th, 2003, 21:36
when u r bugging people about the lack of revolutionary changes in terms of compatibility, ask urself the question "how compatible are modern emus/plugins ?" and the only answer is that the majority of games (possibly even 90+%) are almost fully emulated or at least fully playable. ive tested loads and loads of games, at least 60 % of all the games available on the n64, and im tellning u as a fact that most are fully playable. isnt thats wats important as a games player. if u hav the ability to program to the high degree that these authors can then why dont u fix the issues that annoy you urself. i think the past month has shown an unbelievable enhancement to n64 emulation and has proved to many that theres still a lot that can be accomplished in n64 emulation.

"When i speak about IMPORTANT IMPROVEMENTS, i mean a least 3-4 HARD 2 EMULATE games, like the ones i have listed before, in perfect pj fashion ( remember, Banjo Tooie, Perfect Dark , DK64 , never-before-emulated titles, these ARE REAL IMPROVEMENTS, pj did that, the other emus came LATER) and seen what u have catch as example, if the great Jabo won't took again the control of the situation, we'll be still talking about "wow, lens flare...." for the next 2 years, without REAL core emulation improvements ( that means, if u still haven't understood, NEW and GREAT games emulated, like the ones i have listed ) "

well what games hav not been emulated, its pretty much fair to say that most games that are worth playing are fully playable (lets be honest, the n64 was never full of great games) so stop complaining. u havnt contributed in the slightest to n64 emulation (afaik) , so what gives u the right to put down years and years of hard work and experimentation by a bunch of talented people who are wasting their time releasing software for people like u to complain about. as most things have been emulated to a high degree, it leaves the more difficult, sometimes smaller and less obvious issues to be sorted. just accept it!

Slougi
March 27th, 2003, 21:41
I completely agree to sk8bloke. Very well said. About the only game I would like to see emulated well that is not is KI Gold. And I have that on the real N64, so no problems there.
And unless there is a quick change of tone here, several people will get a warning.

Martin
March 27th, 2003, 21:53
One more flame in this thread and it will be locked.

alessmz
March 27th, 2003, 22:41
this must surely be the greatest Submental Idiot contest ever, but now i'm really annoyed by that bunch of >6 years old-brained comments.

Emulation progress means NEW games, not (welcome) fixes on already emulated games. That works for any emu.

Now, since in latest "post" i have been directly offended,whereas i have exposed my opinion without any bad language, lets pay those assholes with the same medicine, starting with that gaypride icon that's Greevy, i just wanna remind him 2 concentrate fucking that old fart asshole his mommy got after her usual night work. The palm for real Son of a Bitch of the Millennium goes however 2 that genetic-anal-ly modified dick that's shit-oomulation, whick superiority comes only in testing the greatest enlarged cocks ever created, the same his mum test for free, FUCK YOU SCREWFUCKER, GO 2 HELL!!!:nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

Regarding the ban thing, u can find 2 kind of people in the forums, first option are smart guys which understand the real message u want 2 express, also if that means 2 be unpopular amongst the other users and the relative flames and offense u'll get.
Otherwise, if moderator will turn out 2 be more of the same moroons i had 2 "calm-down" ( rightly, not being the first 2 start insulting, see post history of this treads ), well, i'll be the first 2 left such a place.

p.s. Lemmy and Lac get anyway my respect for this release AND for that fantastic Nemu 0.7a release, which enabled 2 play Ridge racer 64, in a moment which the patetic Ultra Hle was the king of n64 hills, something majority of users won't even remind.

Greevy
March 27th, 2003, 23:13
:stupid:

Martin, could you ban this guy ?

Not because he offended me, Doomulation and everyone else, but because he's using some pretty harsh words and there might be younger people reading his posts.

Thanks Martin! :phone:

LazerTag
March 27th, 2003, 23:26
alessmz, at first I thought I had maybe misunderstood you. Then I thought maybe you were ticked off cause I was making a bit of a joke on your behalf.

Now I see though you are some egotistical moron, probably no more then about 10 years old, who thinks people can read your mind, or see some deep meanings in your posts.

Why not try backing up what you wanted to say in a little more educated and clear tone instead of using all the curse words (which BTW, most of it makes no sense anyway). My 7 year old son speaks better English than you do, lol.

And you are sorta right too, there are two types of forum users here.

Those of us (meaning no one like you) who know how to talk rationally and intelligently about the subjects this board was made for.

And then there are apparent scum, such as yourself, whom since they don't have any intellectual thoughts of thier own come to forums like this and spew garbage.

I'm done worrying about anything you think.

Finally, I love this feature :D

Slougi
March 27th, 2003, 23:36
alessmz, you're an idiot.

Gent
March 28th, 2003, 00:06
1st off there isn't any need for the foul mouthed language ok
2nd any progression is indeed Progression if it is just bug fixes or new emulated games.

3rd alot people try to play one author off against another and that has to stop.

all this "A" plugin wipes the floor with "B" Plugin.

Or "A" Emulator make "B" Emulator Look {}:{ etc.

These Authors work hard on "their" Projects and are nice enough to share it with anyone who wish to.
I personally think that is damn nice them and respect them for it.

I don't like the negative and stupid name calling I've seen here so all listen up.

lets have some respect for The Authors, Yourselves and all Members this forum.

alessmz
March 28th, 2003, 01:04
that's no more emulation related.

Since noone wants 2 understand , in case ur not satisfied enough, fuck u ALL.

btw, slougi ( still enjoyng your mom porn b-movies?) and anal-lazer , just fire yourself:getlost

Trotterwatch
March 28th, 2003, 01:22
He is no more.

Trotterwatch
March 28th, 2003, 01:24
I've banned this user, as he has made it quite clear he no longer wants to be a part of this 'patetic' (sic) forum.

Greevy
March 28th, 2003, 01:52
my last post in this frankly patetic forum

Phewww..

I thought he had written that this was a pathetic forum.

But eh, he said it was a patetic for... DOH!

Hehe, thanks for banning him man :)

Doomulation
March 28th, 2003, 13:27
I can't believe such morons exist :getlost:
Sheesh.

Trotterwatch
March 28th, 2003, 13:45
Let this thread drop now, no one else need post.

CLOSED
not quite, but that'll do for now :)

sk8bloke22
March 28th, 2003, 19:45
Originally posted by alessmz
this must surely be the greatest Submental Idiot contest ever, but now i'm really annoyed by that bunch of >6 years old-brained comments.

Emulation progress means NEW games, not (welcome) fixes on already emulated games. That works for any emu.



people are posting unneccesary comments to alessmz. if u disagree with something argue it out intelligently, dont just swear people down.

alessmz: emulation does not just mean new games. in fact it doesnt mean that at all. an emulator is when a piece of hardware is simulated in software. emulation is nothing to do with games, in theory. if the aim was just to get new games working, u would hav a high compatiblility list but few playable games. the way some games hav been programmed, particularly on the n64 which was a bitch to make games on (probably the reason why there were only a few games worth playing), means emulating certain software is more tricky than others. look at donkey kong 64, a game that has been sorta emulated for a while, but has never been fully playable. its bugged with timing issues and other stuff which could mean it will never be playable. emulation isnt a competition for authors. learn to program and then u will see why there are soooooo many difficulties in emulation. its not that easy just to make every game compatible. in fact welcome fixes are very welcome, cos as a games player, u want to be able to play a game without seeing any emulaiton flaws, rather than just seeing a game but with loads of issues, otherwise the game would be unplayable.