About Religion

[t0rek]

I just want to know about the faith of the members and staff of emutalk. What you are : catholic, christian, jewish or what? I used to be faithless but thanks to a good friend of mine now I'm christian. :satisfied What about you guys?

[mightyrocket]

I'm a christian too. Why didn't you make a poll of this? This is a perfect subject for a poll, isn't it?

[t0rek]

Yes it but I didn't think in that:plain:

[Tri-Force]

i'll just say it for everyone who knows

Here we go again.

look up the "Truth About God" thread. it's a lengthy(very very lengthy) read but just about everyone here posted in it and states what they do and dont believe

[Gent]

Oh FeK Not again :plain:

[sytaylor]

im with triforce on this one, some bloody sweat and tears went into that thread

[AlphaWolf]

My objectivist views tend to piss people off if they hate to face reality :P

[ra5555]

I am christian, protestant :)

[Tri-Force]

Originally posted by AlphaWolf
My objectivist views tend to piss people off if they hate to face reality :P

as does my refuasl to budge on something that i truely DEEPLY and %100 believe with all my heart.

[AlphaWolf]

Go read up on platos "allegory of the cave" ;)

[2fast4u]

triforce and me can approve that threads about religion tend to be quite exhausting ;) me am nothing, just for the record

[doggie]

i have no religion:blush:

[Mingo3k]

im christian, but i think ill change to agnostic...
think thats the one where you will only believe untill you see proof of god... i dont remember

[Smiff]

Once you've posted on EmuTalk... you KNOW there's no God, lol. (j/k)

[Trotterwatch]

Basically I believe that there is a God and that there was a Jesus. I do not believe that everything in the Bible actually happened however (as it was put together by comittee, selectively choosing what should go in).

[2fast4u]

Originally posted by Smiff
Once you've posted on EmuTalk... you KNOW there's no God, lol. (j/k)

rofl :happy:

[Slougi]

I used to be a atheist, until I realized that I AM God!

[AlphaWolf]

Originally posted by Mingo3k
im christian, but i think ill change to agnostic...
think thats the one where you will only believe untill you see proof of god... i dont remember

Agnostism is where you can't confirm nor denie the existence of any god. This is pretty much where I fit in.

[Tri-Force]

Originally posted by 2fast4u
triforce and me can approve that threads about religion tend to be quite exhausting ;)

true that bro

there is a section of the original thread that i like to call the "Tri-Force and 2fast4u Show" and if we were on Springer chairs would be flying. and if words could kill we would both be killed twice (me being reseructed by God and him by Darwin or apes or something) and then (somewhat) coming to a stalemate in our 3rd lives

[2fast4u]

*lol* :happy:

[mightyrocket]

An idea: Why not add the subject "religion" to the profiles?

[AlphaWolf]

Aparently the internet does have the potential of being a front for a holy war.

[vampireuk]

I am a Jedi:D

[t0rek]

Interesting, I respect your opinion guys and I understand them, I used to be atheist :saint:

[AlphaWolf]

Though I am not quite an athiest, I do sympathise for the shit they have to put up with :) I always catch flak everytime I tell a religious nut that the greater half of the book of genesis is completely false.

Who wants to hear my reasoning? :happy:

[sytaylor]

Originally posted by vampireuk
I am a Jedi:D

this religion is taking off... 390,000 brits are too!!!!

[t0rek]

Well AlphaWolf of course not everything in the Genesis book is true, I'm christian and I know that, the creation process described there is just a literary expression, remember that scientifist knowlodge was very low at that time.

[AlphaWolf]

Well, its not that realy, its that there are certain things in genesis which directly contradict both each other, and well known (proven) facts of the modern day. It's pretty much an impossibility realy.

[t0rek]

There are too many examples where the bible contradicts itself, not only in the Genesis book, the important thing are the good lessons that are in the bible, even me when I was atheist I readed the bible, no matter if you don't believe in God or not, you can't say that there are not good things on the bible, or in any religion.

[Tri-Force]

must . . . . resist . . . . urge too . . .

oh crap. well i've already made the decision not to argue religon if it isn't going to be a productive conversation.

[AlphaWolf]

True. You know one thing, both the old and new testaments say that you don't have to believe in god or jesus or the bible itself even.

[t0rek]

That's interesting :plain:

[AlphaWolf]

But it is true :happy:

[Sukh]

/me is a Sikh :D Not very religous though...

[sytaylor]

Sukh am have religion all to himself.. s00kism :geek:

[2fast4u]

Originally posted by sytaylor
Sukh am have religion all to himself.. s00kism :geek:

its his attempt to take over the world with his tool magicinstall :cry:

[sytaylor]

I'm a little uneasy about s00k using his "tool" :getlost:

[Gent]

Originally posted by 2fast4u
its his attempt to take over the world with his tool magicinstall :cry:
Tis true, It be the work of the Devil :plain:

I also wouldnt mind a 1337 option in CP blocking all Religious Threads like you can block out sigs :happy:

and lol im still trying to figure out the place for such a thread.

lets see, we have Talk of the Town, Way off Topic:
How about God Squad Corner :P

[Falcon4ever]

/me is 100% Atheist

[t0rek]

Don't worry I'm not mad, I respect every religion a I respect atheists as well, Peace and love dudes! :holiday: Mods if you want feel free to close this thread :saint:

[Sukh]

Originally posted by Best Angel
Don't worry I'm not mad, I respect every religion a I respect atheists as well, Peace and love dudes! :holiday: Mods if you want feel free to close this thread :saint:

Akh, why are you so jolly? :P

Must be that Jesus Christ I suppose ;)

[gokuss4]

you know in genesis it talks about God creating the heavens and the Earth. I don't think God created the Earth. I think he just started it all. For all i know God could be part of a super super advanced race in another universe. I'm A Christian and sometimes i like to bring religion and science together.

ou know how the universe started, as a big bang with all the matter in one pressurized area smaller than an atom, than the pressure got so great it collapsed and exploded in a big BANG.

but what we dont know is how it all started there. who knows, God could of started all that matter in one place and he intended everything to go as planned and it did. the universe went boom and all matter spread and galaxies, solar systems, and stars, and planets started to appear. I don't think he created, I think he started the whole damn process!

[AlphaWolf]

Aristotle suggested that the "unmoved mover" (or god) isn't an actual being to pray to or anything, rather god is the process that you're describing, only this process is intelligent - it thinks, and its leading the world in a specific direction.

IMO, all parts of the bible (passed genesis, 90% of which is entirely false) were based on things that realy did happen. However, the "history" it records was heavily altered from the events that actualy occured in order to fit the propaganda of the rulers of the time. I would say that a good 30% of the after genesis portion of the bible is real.

It's quite surprising how many people believe in the bible yet haven't even read the thing, except for maybe a few chapters from a scattered selection of books :happy:

[t0rek]

I already said that creation process described on Genesi is just a literay expression of that time, the genesis author didn't know about the big bang hipothesis by then, the rest of the parts of the bible has thing than are not exactly true but they are there for the purposes of teaching good things (like a present book of fiction that can teach us something)

[AlphaWolf]

Right, but what I was refering to specificaly are those who believe the bible to be either entirely true or mostly true. I mean I can recall events from the bible in much finer detail than most religious types that I have come across, and they have the audacity to tell me that they know it to be real :)

[t0rek]

Originally posted by AlphaWolf
Right, but what I was refering to specificaly are those who believe the bible to be either entirely true or mostly true. I mean I can recall events from the bible in much finer detail than most religious types that I have come across, and they have the audacity to tell me that they know it to be real :)

Someone like that might be a christian but doesn't know the bible and its context very well :)

[AlphaWolf]

Generaly the comments I get are "the bible is gods word, and god is infoulable, so its not wrong". Sure, if you say so buddy... :D

[t0rek]

Originally posted by AlphaWolf
Generaly the comments I get are "the bible is gods word, and god is infoulable, so its not wrong". Sure, if you say so buddy... :D

That is extremist

[sogetsu2k1]

Tux is my God :satisfied

lol, no way, I'm christian, but actually I'm not very religious....

And about the bible, I think that most of what is written there is mostly true, but wrote in an ancient way

[DrSteveW]

I'm a postmodern Christian. Try working that one out :cry:

[euphoria]

Well this is interesting, this morning, me taking my morning sh*te and reading the newspaper came across a journal about an american methodist church and its relationship with the iraqian situtation. There was an interview of a guy who said that evolution theory should be replaced by the creation story(? you know what i mean) because evolution theory is *just* a theory! After coming around after the shock i thought of putting up a poll here on emutalk of ppls religious believes.

Maybe this wasn't a coincidence...

but unfortunately for the force which was trying to tell me something by all this, im atheist and believe only in my self!! :saint:

PS. Most of the wars going on now and in the past have been direct on indirect cause of religion. Being fanatic about anything is bad.

[ShadowPrince]

Originally posted by euphoria
Well this is interesting, this morning, me taking my morning sh*te and reading the newspaper came across a journal about an american methodist church and its relationship with the iraqian situtation. There was an interview of a guy who said that evolution theory should be replaced by the creation story(? you know what i mean) because evolution theory is *just* a theory!


Actually very funny ,but i afraid, not so fresh idea .Nice logic,you can change "theory" on "story" :).
But i curious how it connects to Iraqi situation in this paper ?




PS. Most of the wars going on now and in the past have been direct on indirect cause of religion. Being fanatic about anything is bad.
Have to agree with you about that religion is one of the main cases for many wars as well as LAND,but you should differ being religious fanatic and just religious.

[pj64er]

Originally posted by Georges Duhamel
I have too much respect for the idea of God to make it responsible for such an absurd world.

[AlphaWolf]

Heh that is funny. Evolution is based on logical reason. Creationism is based on .... I actualy don't know, but it sure isn't reason.

[The Khan Artist]

Originally posted by AlphaWolf
Heh that is funny. Evolution is based on logical reason. Creationism is based on .... I actualy don't know, but it sure isn't reason.

Creationism is based on the probability of evolution. ;)

Anyways,

/me is a hardcore Roman Catholic.

[t0rek]

I already said, creation process is based on literary ancient miths...

[gokuss4]

Originally posted by gokuss4
you know in genesis it talks about God creating the heavens and the Earth. I don't think God created the Earth. I think he just started it all. For all i know God could be part of a super super advanced race in another universe. I'm A Christian and sometimes i like to bring religion and science together.

ou know how the universe started, as a big bang with all the matter in one pressurized area smaller than an atom, than the pressure got so great it collapsed and exploded in a big BANG.

but what we dont know is how it all started there. who knows, God could of started all that matter in one place and he intended everything to go as planned and it did. the universe went boom and all matter spread and galaxies, solar systems, and stars, and planets started to appear. I don't think he created, I think he started the whole damn process!

Just something that everyone could think about... im in what they call the "Science Christian" belief...

[sk8bloke22]

hehe, stop this thread before it reaches like 50 pages like the first 'Can the existence of God be proved' thread did (all thanks to moi :D ).

anyway just to contribute to the thread (as it would be rude not too :happy: ), just because we dont know how everything originated, does not mean there is a god, or god is the only explanation. the simple answer is - we dont know! the general theory of God, similar to marxist theory and other similar theories, cannot be deemed scientific as they are not falsifiable. i.e. it is impossible to know for sure whether or not god does exist as theres no intrinsic evidence, and the general theory of god (that god is everywhere, and is the all-knowing and all-powerful) is impossible to prove. therefore, the arguement for god's existence is pretty pointless, in the sense that it is not scientific and therefore cannot be proved through the sort of empirical evidence that we use today to prove things.